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Iconic1s

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So the other day one of these popped up on eBay for $350.00 BIN... raw!  I have to be honest and say that if I really thought that a copy of this book had a legitimate chance at 9.8 I don't think that price is too too (yes, two too's) high.  However, in order to fork out that much cash for a raw I would need tons of pics and be pretty confident with what I see.

I'm not trying to criticize the seller at all as anyone has the right to ask what they think something is worth... on the other hand, the buyer also has the right to offer what they are willing to pay.  Sometimes people meet in the middle and everyone is happy.  In this case, after looking at the condition of the book I felt really strongly that it WAS NOT close to being a 9.8.  I also considered what previous raw copies have gone for, and barring some kind of irrational bidding war ensuing, they have went for between $50.00 and $60.00.  I offered $60.00 and the results are in the title.  Even if it's not a 9.8 I felt like it was worth rescuing... maybe even getting it in a slab just for the heck of it.

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I've included a few pics... the 'stain' referred to in the description appears to be foxing to me but I am by no means an expert.  This is not a PGM thread but if anyone thinks this is a 9.8 please let me know and perhaps I'll up my offer.  Thank you!

P.S. Currently offering $1200.00 for a CGC 9.8 of this book :bigsmile:.  Appreciate any help!

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I don't know if it's a 9.8 but it certainly isn't a very clear 9.6/9.8... that kind of thing can only be judged by having it in hand (IMO)

HOWEVER, note that when creating a listing and allowing offers eBay has an automatic default to automatically reject bids that are lower than half of the buy-it-now price. This happens immediately. 


Most likely, the seller is ok to stick with that default

I'm not familiar with this variant ('DC Universe') - is it more valuable than the variant that has the contributors' names?

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On 9/1/2021 at 2:07 PM, Rockblazer said:

My experience in your situation is that it's probably going to be a little lower than your expectations. What are CGC 9.6 copies going for?

Thanks!  The only 9.6 I have seen sell went for $225.00. That was awhile ago…problem is that I have that 9.6 and am not willing to take a big chance on another raw unless it’s got a shot at 9.6 or above. I think my 9.6 has a small chance of upgrading but I’m afraid to take a chance CPR’ing it without a safety net.

I would be interested in another CGC 9.6 if one ever became available so I could send the best one in and have the other as a back-up.

I appreciate you commenting!

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On 9/1/2021 at 1:51 PM, amatta said:

I don't know if it's a 9.8 but it certainly isn't a very clear 9.6/9.8... that kind of thing can only be judged by having it in hand (IMO)

HOWEVER, note that when creating a listing and allowing offers eBay has an automatic default to automatically reject bids that are lower than half of the buy-it-now price. This happens immediately. 


Most likely, the seller is ok to stick with that default

I'm not familiar with this variant ('DC Universe') - is it more valuable than the variant that has the contributors' names?

Thanks for commenting!

I was not aware of that option in eBay and appreciate the tip!  I’m not much of a seller, more of a buyer.

Yes, this is a rare variant/3rd printing… there is only one 9.8 right now and it’s the last 9.8 I need (out of 98 books).  I had a chance to pick up the 9.8 a couple years ago but passed because the price was high and I still needed a bunch more books. Now I’m willing to pay more… live and learn I guess!

On the bright side I have met some good people that I probably wouldn’t have otherwise, while searching for this book.

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So a couple days ago this bad boy popped up on eBay for $229.99 BIN or Make Offer.  It is listed as a '9.0 Plus'.  After my unsuccessful attempt above to buy a copy that also had no shot at 9.8, I got pretty excited when seeing this listing on my phone.  I checked the pics, and although it did not look perfect I figured that at '9.0 Plus' what the heck... might as well give it a shot.  I offered $130.00... the seller immediately came back at $175.00... I countered with $140.00... he countered at $160.00!  We were really wheelin' and dealin' here... stuff was happenin'!  I made what was going to be my final offer of $150.00 which I had pre-determined was my top price for a raw copy with a sketchy shot at 9.0ish all the way to 9.6/9.8ish.

Then there was a long pause... long enough for me to get my lazy butt off the couch and to grab my laptop.  Now, the last time I had my eyeglass prescription updated was about three years ago and once I looked at this book on my laptop it became very clear that I needed my eyes checked.  Just one look at the spine made me want to run away fast.

I imagine about this time the seller was lighting a cigar and contemplating how to best spend my money, this pause gave me enough time to retract my offer.  I don't normally retract an offer once made however as long as that option exists, and as long as I procrastinate getting my eyes checked I will consider that option open to me.  If the seller had accepted I most certainly would have paid for this book and chalked it up as a lesson learned!  I am grateful however, that in this case they instead decided to take their time thinking it over... :banana:

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My Hunt Continues!!

P.S. I extended the same $150.00 offer on the first book in this entry as well and have not heard back... man, I'm bored!

 

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On 9/30/2021 at 7:38 PM, Iconic1s said:

I imagine about this time the seller was lighting a cigar and contemplating how to best spend my money, this pause gave me enough time to retract my offer.  

My cigar smoking days could possibly be behind me, but when the day comes that you get your 9.8 of this book, I’ll probably light one up for you!

 

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I went against ALL of my better judgment this morning…. the original book that started this entry has been listed ever since.  It was about to end last night and I sent a message saying I’d be willing to pay $175.00… no reply.

This morning it was relisted and I received an offer for $275.00. I said what the heck and sent an offer for $180.00 which is way more than I think this raw copy is actually worth.  Figured it might be fun to submit it anyways and I have met a presser that I wouldn’t have minded letting do some work on it even if I still don’t think it would ever be a 9.8. Plus, haven’t picked up anything in awhile and am bored I guess.  Anyways…

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I am no longer watching this book and wish the seller well…

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