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This should be one of their top priorities. Stop all encapsulation until a new case is ready to roll. If not you're just sending out more bad ones. Then have a voluntary recall of all existing cases. If I were them I would want as many of these cases off the market as possible. If not, there will always be scams given how easy book swaps are which CGC will be on the hook for given their guarantee. Take the financial hit doing a recall or deal with scams for years to come, the financial loss of compensating folks and potential law suits, legal fees and so forth. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Notice it says processes and nothing about the case itself.

I agree people need a paper trail but how many cash deals are done at comic shows / cons? Transactions like this have no paper trail.

Exactly this. Hence why I think they need to institute a voluntary recall. If they want to stay the premier grading source for comics they need to take corrective action to get rid of or lessen the problem.

Someone may want more than one of they focus selling. Like have one account for strictly selling comics, another for thrift store finds and so on. Change a name could be anything. You start a business and want to use your same eBay account you've used for years with feedback rather than starting from scratch with zero.

It would be interesting to see more videos on this and before and after up close shots of someone taking their time and making it look good. Actually trying. I don't think buyers scrutinize a case like they do the comic inside. As long as the case is sealed and nothing obvious sticks out, hardly anyone would think twice about any wrong doing. Collectors focus on looking at their new pretty comic inside.

I think it literally is that easy to get into the cases. Go get and look at one of your newer cases. There is only one 2" or so section that looks sonically welded. The entire bottom edge is just held in place by the 2 corner posts. Who knows of they are sonically welded or just snap bit heat definitely makes them come apart with ease as shown in his video. As part of R&D of the case how is a heat gun / source not part of your research? Seems like the first logical thing anyone would try if they had ill intentions. Just seems negligent and lazy on CGC's part. Part of R&D should be this. Have a 3rd party or anyone for that matter try to tamper with it and you see the results. A "real world" test before you release it to the masses. If someone can tamper with a case and hand it back to you and you can't tell the difference then that's a problem. I feel CGC needs to take better action. They literally have no idea how deep this goes. They can't just focus on one bad apple and think there aren't any others. They should immediately stop all holdering until they have a new case design or a new and improved way of sealing their existing case that's been TESTED. Then release what improvements they've made. This will literally keep happening forever given the millions of cases out there. Lastly, they need to have a voluntary recall on their slabbed books. This will never happen but it needs to happen. This is like any company that has a defective product doing a recall. Yeah, it's costly but do you want to acknowledge and give people the opportunity to get rid of the problem or turn your head and keep dealing with this for years to come? Not everyone would take part in said recall. If they still own the books they sent in for grading they know they are fine, however if a person ever decides to sell and it's not in the new case then it could hurt the resale value because who k ows how thos will affect the hobby. This is a horrible situation for CGC to be in but they put themselves in this with lack of security features in their cases.

They literally have no way of knowing how many books were or are effected. This is the ONE guy that got caught. Ths will be an issue forever as there is no way for them to rectify the millions of slabbed books in existence unless they have a voluntary recall to regarded and slab books in said cases assuming they have a redesigned method and case. Plus if I have a Hulk 181 green label and swap it out with a blue label case and reseal it myself and sell it. I send the blue back through as a raw book for grading. There is literally no trace of any wrong doing here. Nothing to trace or track.

Double post....

I am not sure if this video has been posted but anyone can literally defeat a CGC case with a heat gun and some patience. This is a HUGE issue. The whole design and sealing method needs fixed ASAP. I just looked at one of my McFarlane signature books from his last signing, which is the last time I sent in a book. The entire bottom isn't sealed like this video demonstrates, only the corners. As shown, this would be super easy to open without any marks or cracks to the case. There is only about a 2" section of the seal on my book that has been sonically(?) sealed and melted together. This needs done around the entire edge of the case or at a minimum, 2" sections on all 4 sides. This is a massive design flaw. Given the amount of books in these cases this will be an ongoing issue literally forever. It's sad.

You guys expect me to stop collecting slab books because of this? I'm just careful of what I buy. Getting them to want to change has to start somewhere sitting there and taking it is not the answer.

Change comes from new ideas and essentially complaining and coming up with solutions to problems. Having the attitude of "this is how it is, deal with it because nothing will change" gets nobody anywhere.

It would seem logical that a grading company would note on the slab or in grader notes of any acceptable MFG defect. Maybe that's asking too much.

No thanks.