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I'd buy that - but broaden it to just "superhero" films, which would include some amazing superhero flicks, like The Matrix Hancock Robocop

The Winter Soldier Black Panther ...long pause... GOTG

Wonder Woman The Dark Knight Blade II Spider-Man 2 Ghost Rider (honestly - despite how drunk my friends and I got before paying to see this in the theaters, it's now on Netflix and is gloriously cheesy) History of Violence (re-watched this last week. It holds up.) Batman ('89) The Punisher (but the fatal flaw with this film - it was released around the same time as Denzel's Man on Fire remake, which had basically the same plot as The Punisher but was superior in every respect) Constantine (latest rumor is...Keanu's circling a sequel?) Superman II

Daredevil is my favorite Silver Age character. By far. But the bigger key here is Avengers 1 -- it's not even close. Why? Importance. Sorry, but the first appearance of the Avengers, one of Marvel's longest-running titles and - at one point supported three titles (Avengers, West Coast Avengers, Avengers Spotlight). Print run / relative rarity. Unless you were collecting in the mid-late '90s, it may be hard to fathom just how common Daredevil 1 is -- I think it's probably *the* most common entry-level Silver Age book, next to only Iron Man 1 and Fantastic Four 48. Go to a mid-level comic con in 1992-1995, multiple dealer tables would have a stack of each of these books. Seriously - like 5-20 copies of each, pick your grade. Full disclosure - I have currently own a CGC 6.5 copy of Daredevil 1, Stan Lee Sig. Series. I once owned a CGC 2.5 copy of Avengers # 1, which I believe I bought here on the boards from Foolkiller. Later sold. Oh - and also: Anyone who is claiming that the first appearance of the Avengers team doesn't count because there are no major character first appearances. Doesn't. Understand. The Hobby.

Really? I have never met a collector (or dealer) who would prefer to have a Web of Spider-Man # 18 or 24 over an ASM # 299.

Fair point. Somewhere recently, FlyingDonut singled out Daredevil (vol. 2) # 1 (1998) as an incredibly important book and (possible) start to a new age. Why? I can't speak for him, but to me it's key for several reasons (beyond the storyline, which is garbage because Smith killed Karen Page). Major Marvel series re-numbering - a trend that would play out over and over again in the years and decades to come. Began the trend of story decompression - a huge shift away from one-off single-issue stories to made-for-trade storylines. This continued over the next few years with Ultimate Spider-Men, Ultimate X-Men and (especially) Ultimate FF (which took 5 issues to tell what FF # 1 did in one); and again in Hulk # 34 and ASM (vol. 2) # 30. The end result? By 2002 most Marvel books, at least, were nearly unrecognizable from their 1997 counterparts -- which still felt like 1988 - or 1994 - comics. 2002 superhero books were nothing of the sort.

No. It's an early symbiote appearance, and - in fact, considered part of the "Alien Costume" saga that runs through ASM # 252 - 259. I'm looking at the trade paperback - literally titled "Amazing Spider-Man: The Saga of the Alien Costume" - right now. The alien symbiote definitionally doesn't become Venom until it fuses with Eddie Brock, so its first appearance are the cameos in ASM 298-299 and Web of Spider-Man 18, with the first *full* appearance (the one that counts) coming in ASM 300.

I get that. See my comment on Wednesday - if this goes streaming, I've always thought it would go to Hulu. But the articles above make it seem the "loophole" applies only to theatrical vs. Disney+. Hulu's (curiously) not part of that equation.

Seriously - anybody whose seen this who can explain the ending for me? And how Bloodshot didn't die?

I get the potential loophole, but I can't see this coming out on Disney+ due to its horror tone. Hell - Twitter was abuzz with folks yesterday *begging* Disney not to edit Hamilton when it premieres on Disney+ on July 3 -- not just the curse words, but there's fear Disney may alter/omit the Maria Reynolds storyline due to its adult themes.

This. Don't understand why they don't just shuffle this to a direct release on Hulu.

I've said it before, but Solo's sin was it was simply mediocre - and therefore a missed opportunity. Nothing particularly bad about it, but honest-to-god Whedon did it better with Firefly 20 years ago -- and on a TV budget. 85% of the plot of Solo was basically the Firefly episodes "The Train Job" and "Trash" mashed together.

Honestly - it depends. I'd say most of the time books sell for below GPA, and so are cheaper to buy than equivalent copies on Heritage or eBay. This makes sense - because Comiclink doesn't report to GPA, dealers and flippers aren't going to buy at much over GPA prices, since those strong prices are invisible to the GPA averages. This means you can often invest via price arbitrage by say...buying in a Jan. Clink auction (when prices are typically down as holiday credit card bills come due) and re-selling via eBay during the summer a year and a half later (meaning you can take advantage of capital gains for tax purposes). But in a strong market - or for undervalued books, Clink regularly shatters GPA records. I've both bought and sold thousands of dollars worth of books on Comiclink. Prices were good on both ends -- when selling, I chose them over Heritage because the larger commission at the latter would have reduced my take. I dropped 86 slabs off at a large comic con in Philly - and they parceled the books out over their next three auctions. The experience couldn't have been easier.

What's impressive about that $863 auction sale is that - after taxes and (nominal) shipping, it means that at least two people were willing to spend ~$900 for a good-looking 9.4.

You're setting up an irrelevant Straw Man by focusing on this theoretical newbie to the hobby. The reality is that *anyone* - even a neophyte investor - looking to drop thousands of dollars on a Showcase 4, Showcase 22, or Action 252 - isn't going to have the attention span of a gnat. And will be able to pay attention long enough for you to cough out "the Silver Age of comics started in late '50s." Because it mother-ducking *did.*

Again - No. I get that you said 1960s "for the most part" but that blatantly ignores a slew of significant DC character introductions that took place over more than a three-year period then -- that *no one* considers anything but Silver Age. Those include the first and/or first Silver Age appearances of: The Flash Green Lantern The Martian Manhunter The Justice League of America Legion of Superheroes Sgt. Rock Braniac Supergirl Bizarro Limiting the Silver Age to "the 1960s" excludes 8 of the top 20 key Silver Age books according to Overstreet's (at least of 2018) and is a blatant slap in the face of DC collectors.

What happened to the news a month ago that Disney was eyeing Keanu Reeves to play Johhny Blaze? Or has that now been supplanted by this week's rumor that they want him to play Moon Knight?

It took me a second to match "ERI" to a title. Oh - right. Wolverine. Public school education, man...

A CGC 9.4 copy sold for $863 in the Winter 2020 Comiclink auction. I want to say it was the February auction? Link: https://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch.asp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3Dmarvel%2Bteam-up%26GO%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1387331 There’s another (old label) copy currently for sale at Comiclink with a $1,300 ask. While that’s (clearly) ambitious, it shows the seller denied an offer of $650 for it. Duh. https://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch.asp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DMarvel%2BTeam-up%26GO2%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB&id=975309 Regardless of whether one think's Marvel Team-Up # 1 qualifies as a "key," current market for it in 9.2 and 9.4 is well above the last few GPA-recorded sales.

This. Black Terror's superpowers come from huffing ether. Super strong punch? Yeah - because he's higher than a meth-head! Also, Patricia Highsmith ("Strangers on a Train," "The Talented Mister Ripley") wrote some of his adventures.

And for the record, Youngblood # 1 started Image (duh!) and was (at the time) the most successful indie book in at least 30 years, selling 750k copies. But Spawn # 1 is the book that made the company a force to be reckoned with, and not just because it actually lasted more than 200 issues and 25+ years -- but because it routinely was the best-selling comic in the country. Corollary here is Youngblood # 1 = Detective Comics # 1, where Spawn # 1 = Detective Comics # 27. cf Nintendo / WWF valiant vs. Magnus # 1 vs. Unity # 0. Which is the most significant of these books? I'd go with Unity # 0 - which is why, by the extended Copper Age definition, early Magnus and Solar runs belong in the Copper Age. Incidentally I passed on the pre-Unity Valiant books initially because they struck me as sci-fi titles rather than superhero ones. Early Magnus and Solar - like their Gold Key antecedents, felt (and were) sci-fi titles. It wasn't until Harbinger 1 and X-O 1 that Valiant transitioned to more of a traditional superhero feel.

? Show me where's it's anything but 100% rock-solid settled that the Silver Age started with Showcase # 4 in 1956. To state otherwise, that it began with FF # 1, definitionally means that Showcase # 4, Showcase # 22 and Brave and Bold # 22 (released in December 1959) are all Golden Age books. Good luck with that. As to the later ages, again - it's not just me - eBay and Overstreets have both extended the Bronze Age through 1983 for years now, dating the start of the Copper Age with TMNT # 1. This holds even more when the bulk of both Miller's Daredevil run and Byrne's X-Men feel distinctly Bronze, despite the post-1980 cover dates of many of the books.

You may ultimately be right. One can only ice-skate uphill so much with logical arguments about *actual* epochal movements in the comics industry that deserve to denote start of a new age, before folks just revert to "No - Bronze Age = '70s; Copper Age = '80s, etc." But what you did above is simply curve-fitting. You want the ages to coincide with decades, so you found found timely events to fit that desired conclusion. *Especially* with Ultimate Spider-Man 1 - it didn't change Marvel Comics, let alone the industry - in fact, its print run was embarrassingly low for a Spider-Man book. Moreover, it could just as easily have been published in 1998 - or 2002. At best, the legacy of the entire Ultimate line is just two things: 1) Miles Morales' introduction (not even in Ultimate Spider-Man) 2) Giving us a black Sam Jackson-Nick Fury And Spider-Man 1? Sure - it sold 3 million copies - but it had *far* less long-term impact than Spawn 1- hell, the title didn't even make it 100 issues, and barely anyone was reading it by issue 40. To claim it is important as leading to Image is correct - but the successful 1992 launch of Image as a viable and sustained competitor to Marvel + DC is itself the key - not any random comic book print rum precursor. By that logic, New Fun Comics # 6 is more important than Action Comics 1, since it enabled Siegel and Shuster to eventually publish Superman.

Finally saw this last night, via a sub-$2.00 Redbox rental. Thoroughly mediocre, about equivalent to the 2014 Robocop reboot. And that saddens me - as someone who bought Rai 0 on the day of release and re-read Bloodshot 1 maybe 5x as a teen. Hell - I even own Mike Zeck's original cover art to Bloodshot: The Last Stand. Honestly, the most exciting thing about finally seeing a Valiant comic get real movie treatment was seeing Dinesh's name in the production credits. Also - not sure I understood the ending: Overall? Worth the two hours if you've got 'em, but I'd recommend Vin Diesel's early film A Man Apart, the 2012 Dredd film, or even Hemsworth's new Extraction over this one.

I get what you (and Greg) are saying. But both Overstreet's and eBay now count the "Modern Age" as starting in 1992, dating to Image's debut (or, alternatively, the release of Spawn 1 - which was the first significantly *successful* Image title). I'd agree with that, because the combination of Unity (not the first Valiant, but when it started to "matter") and Image was easily more important to the comics industry than the B+W explosion (and subsequent implosion) of the mid-80s. Between Image and Valiant's Unity, the summer of 1992 led to: Two new significant comic companies that continue (in some form) to this day A slew of 1992-93 creator-owned copycats (Ultraverse, Comics Greatest World, Lightning, Bravura, even the formalized MIlestone and Vertigo imprints). Marvel responding to the increased competition by 1) buying Ultraverse and 2) pulling out of Diamond, which led to Cap City's demise and a Diamond monopoly. Take this even further, and its - the '92 success of Image/Valiant lead to the '93 comics bubble and burst, and eventually to Marvel's '96 bankruptcy filing, which leads them to sell off the film rights to Spider-Man, FF, and X-Men - the aftershocks of which are still being felt today. All of this started the summer of 1992.