Menace

Here is a pick of the quote so that you can take it up with Angel. I like to be thorough. The questions I needed answered were perhaps caused by my own mistakes but I wanted to know for sure before I sent paperwork and wasted more time having to resend it or perhaps delaying the processing of the books. Those questions were answered December 4th, I sent the paperwork December 6th. None of which amounts to PL worthy offense IMO. If people aren't willing to wait they won't partake in the opps I offer. If you are still able to offer opps. I am don't worry.

Here is a pick of the quote so that you can take it up with Angel. I like to be thorough. The questions I needed answered were perhaps caused by my own mistakes but I wanted to know for sure before I sent paperwork and wasted more time having to resend it or perhaps delaying the processing of the books. Those questions were answered December 4th, I sent the paperwork December 6th. None of which amounts to PL worthy offense IMO. If people aren't willing to wait they won't partake in the opps I offer.

I think one thing that should be done is separating the actual facts and people involved in a dispute form those with one liners and memes. This could clear up all the confusion on the issues and allow people to actually form an opinion based on the facts. I see all these negative comments on my character, but what were talking about here... as far as I have seen... is three things, one of which (ramos sketches) I explained and came to a full understanding about a long time ago and which had nothing to do with the boards. The other is an opp, which some people involved in have posted saying I took too long or am not updating people.... I ask again, is it good for CGC to call out creators. Stay tuned because I will be checking with Angel about that quote posted in the Sig room. The third was a refund or replacement book, and I think we covered that. I was not told from June till December that the book is still missing as soon as I did I sent a refund. What is flaky... what makes me everything else I have been called? I have a problem with less than 1% of books I handle... I think that is a pretty good rate.

I don't "need" anything from him. Although, seeing how I'm not the only one that thinks he shouldn't be on the HOS, a "thanks for the support" would be nice. I commented yesterday but any real consideration of the facts seems to go by the wayside. Your a good dude, see you at ECC, maybe Portland? Thanks for the support bro

And he already hit the notify moderator button on the poll. I guess he feels we shouldn't follow our own guidelines. Didn't you know he is above the rules??? How else could he still operate as a facilitator for CGC with all of the complaints on him Where is this list of complaints you keep referring to? I see 2 issues. He has had numerous complaints on him brought to Mikes attention of the last year or more. All of this is nothing new with Menace. AKA - you do not know. It's ok not to know. If you have a list please share otherwise hearsay doesn't help. (thumbs u I sense a very personal vibe with your posts. Do you have something personal with Menace? No not hearsey what I know is from my conversations with Mike B a year ago when Menace screwed me. Menace also was added to the probie list last May by me. After a long apology Email from him about his family business blah blah blah. I felt bad and request the mods delete my flamming. I'm sure there are some from the ss room than can recall this and back me. Dscott I am sure remembers he helped with the situation. Can you please produce this email... now this one for sure is a total lie. Again, you freaked out after I posted your full name, as you lied then, saying I had not refunded you so I posted the PayPal transaction ID # etc. This is your second lie... I think your should be on the HOS....

Is this just a really long winded way of saying "Burn the Witch?" If not, expect it to fall on deaf ears. I think we can agree on the odds of anything calming the mob but I thought it was worth a try. The HOS is quickly becoming useless as well. I stopped using the "No HoS or Probies" in my sales threads. Although the list of boardies I will not accept any SS subs from has grown tremendously. In the SS forum, Menace said he never received my email. PM me your email and I can forward you his response to my email. Its not just about getting my refund. I am not going to let him bash me by saying he did not get my emails. He is showing no remorse and needs to man up and tell the truth for once. So I am still waiting for this communication to be produced... was this a lie? Who needs to man up and tell the truth here?

If you got it, you wouldn't have posted this, Jake: The onus is on you to communicate with your clients - whether they be participants in a sketch opp or buyers from one of your sales threads. You're the one responsible for keeping them informed of delays, mishaps, etc - they shouldn't have to track you down outside of the boards for an opportunity you posted here. Yes I meant to say I guess I didn't understand the point. Typo. I posted our outside communication in this case. I was under the impression I SENT THE BOOK.What else can I say or do. Its a mistake. I talk to most of my customers on Facebook and email and the boards. But asking that business be done through email from now on its not a huge burden of a thing to ask. I am not soliciting for a bunch of sketch opps or whatever and ignoring something that is a problem. I have done a single... just one mail away opp this year. It did no go quickly, what else can I say or do here?

My point is I have always been available and very quick to take care of any issues that have arisen. I do my best that is all I can do. If there was some issue here that was ongoing, that I would not or could not fix then I would agree we have something left here to talk about. As of now I have quickly taken care of any outstanding issues or problems with the books in question. Is the rest of this just entertainment for you because I don't see much new here or of much substance.

I guess I did, was the point that I need to use PM's cause I get that is what your opinion is on it.

Dre, I think we went over this, I post my personal cell phone number, my email, my address. I am not hard to reach. If you check out my recent and I say recent over like 6 months or so I have facilitated one event publicly. I have a single and problematic opp which is on its way to being completed. I do books for my friends now, and honestly have no time to publicly facilitate. I own a growing art studio, do my own opps, I work for other conventions and now it looks like I am putting on two or three of my own conventions this year. All this talk about I need to slow down etc is after the fact. I have slowed down a lot on taking subs and only do it in general by request of the show or a customer.

He posted a facebook chat about the book he never sent me for 5 months or refund. But he edited it. Why would you edit it??? Unless you have things to hide. What do I have to hide? I don't want to throw blame on creators or CGC publicly. The book was mislabeled.. Did I mislabel it? I edited bad words and two remarks about CGC, not really remarks, I responded to a conversation about something we perceived to be off and said 'wtf cgc' Seriously... why not focus on the fact you never mentioned that I did not send your book? This is turning into a joke... where people are deflecting the core issues with stupid remarks and nonsense.

So where on FB since you said you messaged me so many times do you mention in the pat 6 month you dont have your book?

If you want to post the conversation - post the whole thing without any edits. Like when you bashed CGC for the wrong sticker. What does me saying 'damn cgc' or 'wtf cgc' have anything to do with the substance of the issue? Yes I removed those comments out of respect for CGC being as this is their house. And the issue at hand, being that I did not send you the book AFTER the fact, that doesn't have any fault of CGC right? So what did I censor that was of any substance to the issue? Did I mislabel the book? No.. is it fair to have a certain level of frustration about the wrong label being on there sure.

It does look like he's working it out. That's a very good thing. However, since he solicited the sales and opportunities on this board, he probably shouldn't be upset that people are using the boards as the primary means of contact for him. If he started it here, he should organize it and complete it here. I understand that other means might be more convenient for him but it should be about what his customers expect and what works for them. Changing the venue, midstream, seems to have caused more problems than it solved in terms of communication. I did not change venue, I just simply can not keep track of things via PM. If people would use a single PM thread for all the info like I tried to make for each customer it would be great. But it didnt work, I would have 10 pms from one person over the time it would take to get one set of books back and then we had moved on to 5 months of other submissions. This got confusing so I asked to be reached by email from now on. I know for a fact other board facilitators ask for communication by email. I hear a lot about how I did not communicate here on the boards, but that is what was causing issues for me. So I chose not to use PM's as a business route. Maybe I was unclear. When you solicit business on the boards you have to be prepared to communicate with people on the boards. Even if it's not as efficient, even if it's not working well, you can't let PM's from customers go because they didn't email you or call you. It's great to come up with a system that works for you, but if you run a thread for business here you are going to have to expect that people will be contacting you here and will need to be answered here regardless of your preference. When that doesn't occur this is what happens. That's all. Fair enough. However, is it ok to start out that way now? IE. if I post something here to require communication by email in the future? It might not be a popular way of doing things 'here' but I know that other facilitators who post here don't use board Pm's for some similar reasoning. Or isn't there a way where I can get my Pm's routed to my email that way I have a searchable and sortable set of communications?

Did everyone miss the actual posts I made last night? Cause the content of them seems to be ignored.

It does look like he's working it out. That's a very good thing. However, since he solicited the sales and opportunities on this board, he probably shouldn't be upset that people are using the boards as the primary means of contact for him. If he started it here, he should organize it and complete it here. I understand that other means might be more convenient for him but it should be about what his customers expect and what works for them. Changing the venue, midstream, seems to have caused more problems than it solved in terms of communication. I did not change venue, I just simply can not keep track of things via PM. If people would use a single PM thread for all the info like I tried to make for each customer it would be great. But it didnt work, I would have 10 pms from one person over the time it would take to get one set of books back and then we had moved on to 5 months of other submissions. This got confusing so I asked to be reached by email from now on. I know for a fact other board facilitators ask for communication by email. I hear a lot about how I did not communicate here on the boards, but that is what was causing issues for me. So I chose not to use PM's as a business route. or shipping either apparently. I suppose others can decipher your one liners... I dont get it.

If I am not mistaken, other people had to go to Tony Daniel directly to get their books as well. I know Adonis had to contact Tony directly to get his sketch done. You are mistaken, Tony had a couple covers to finish, of which he had one or two done, and was completing the rest. These were books taken home after a comic con mind you, I likely asked each person if they wanted to cancel when he didn't complete them at the show. I like Tony, hes a nice guy, but he dropped the ball. This is not even the first time he dropped the ball on the boards, ie. a comic shop signing in Florida a couple year ago. Adonis had wanted to submit his book through his own account and I guess he ended up doing so because Tony was messaging everyone to let them know where he was in the process. The final cover, just got finished a month ago. I have been on him to finish the sketch for quite some time and so has the person who commissioned it (I didnt have anything to do with setting this one up just getting it CGC'd).

It does look like he's working it out. That's a very good thing. However, since he solicited the sales and opportunities on this board, he probably shouldn't be upset that people are using the boards as the primary means of contact for him. If he started it here, he should organize it and complete it here. I understand that other means might be more convenient for him but it should be about what his customers expect and what works for them. Changing the venue, midstream, seems to have caused more problems than it solved in terms of communication. I did not change venue, I just simply can not keep track of things via PM. If people would use a single PM thread for all the info like I tried to make for each customer it would be great. But it didnt work, I would have 10 pms from one person over the time it would take to get one set of books back and then we had moved on to 5 months of other submissions. This got confusing so I asked to be reached by email from now on. I know for a fact other board facilitators ask for communication by email. I hear a lot about how I did not communicate here on the boards, but that is what was causing issues for me. So I chose not to use PM's as a business route.

Is this just a really long winded way of saying "Burn the Witch?" If not, expect it to fall on deaf ears. I think we can agree on the odds of anything calming the mob but I thought it was worth a try. The HOS is quickly becoming useless as well. I stopped using the "No HoS or Probies" in my sales threads. Although the list of boardies I will not accept any SS subs from has grown tremendously. In the SS forum, Menace said he never received my email. PM me your email and I can forward you his response to my email. Its not just about getting my refund. I am not going to let him bash me by saying he did not get my emails. He is showing no remorse and needs to man up and tell the truth for once. I would like to see my reply to your emails, maybe I have a different email but I search your email I see a bunch of PayPal transactions and a message on Dec 3rd. Perhaps I have you mixed up, I did get you mixed up with Jay.

Ok regarding Medina... should I throw a creator under the buss? Would that be good for the SS program? I heard it asked how many opps I am doing? One. Medina. Why you might ask because I don't want to put my name out there for anyone outside my own studio anymore. Things have certain protocol that must be followed, I am not blaming CGC they took less than a day to get back to me with approval to send in less books. But that had to be done. I can say that when it was brought to my attention that the scans were posted on the thread I had not even been told about it. I think I posted as much in the thread. Am I neglecting the opp? No but I am not getting updates, perhaps because so many others are messaging Angel at the same time so he assumes I will see them. Edit: As updated in the SS room, the paperwork has been at Angels house but he was at La Mole in Mexico City and just returned home today.

I feel bad about not sending the book to John, but as you will see by our Facebook log which I will put here in full (well I hope I edited any bad words or remarks) I indicated I sent 'a package' which I thought included the replacement book. 6-5 I heard about it, 6-22 the book is sent to me, I indicate I will pack it and send it to John, along with what I believe was other books I needed to send to him. 7-26 we talk again, general chatter, I ask John about something on his Facebook page for something I am writing. I indicate I am yet again shipping things out but no mention that the replacement book has not arrived yet. 7-26 John asks me if I got his book back but doesn't ask if I sent his yet. So I have no idea at this point I did not send it yet. 9-2 and 9-3 we talk after he is at Dragon Con and he never mentions the book is missing. I understand I dropped the ball by not getting the book out, I am however very easy to reach by phone, email or Facebook. I find PM's to be a VERY bad way to organize things and that led to some of these very delays in shipping that I as well as everyone else would like to avoid. June 5 Jake Mackessy 6/5, 2:46pm Jake Mackessy hey bro! i sent you the wrong book? John White 6/5, 4:45pm John White Well, maybe an error. The top label says 9.8 but the front label says 9.6. was supposed to be a 9.8. I was going to call Mike in the morning to see what can be done if it was an error. Darrell can drop it off at the booth and have it changed if that is the case. will let you know later. John White 6/5, 5:00pm John White Ok, I just learned something new. I was able to look up the cert# from the census online. It says it is supposed to be a 9.6. I can see how you easily mistook it for a 9.8 by top label though. Jake Mackessy 6/5, 5:53pm Jake Mackessy ******* ********************************* i will get it fixed for ya i think i have anthe r9.8 here i bet the 9.6 guy wont tell me he got a 9.8 accidentally June 22 John White 6/22, 5:04pm John White Mail the book to: Jake Mackessy 106 N Lilly St. Moscow Id. 83843 just making sure I have the right one Jake Mackessy 6/22, 5:04pm Jake Mackessy hey brotha this is the SSM right? I have a 9.8 set aside here for you i think John White 6/22, 5:05pm John White yeah Jake Mackessy 6/22, 5:05pm Jake Mackessy yea that is the right one John White 6/22, 5:05pm John White ok Jake Mackessy 6/22, 5:05pm Jake Mackessy ill get this packed and sent to you next week then John White 6/22, 5:05pm John White I will send it priority mail and will send over tracking info sometime tonight anything new? up coming? Jake Mackessy 6/22, 5:08pm Jake Mackessy SDCC my next two shows are gonna be small things im just doing not really taking subs John White 6/22, 5:09pm John White sweet! I always wanted to go there Jake Mackessy 6/22, 5:09pm Jake Mackessy im doing image expo and then a small show in vegas July 26 John White 7/26, 5:30pm John White any updates on the Medinas? just curious Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:34pm Jake Mackessy hey bro! let me check and see if hes messaged me John White 7/26, 5:34pm John White np any new and exciting going on? hopefully you have recovered from SDCC Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:34pm Jake Mackessy not yet got the comic con crud man sick as a dog John White 7/26, 5:35pm John White bummer Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:35pm Jake Mackessy getting everything shipped out bro your a geneticist? John White 7/26, 5:35pm John White haha no Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:36pm Jake Mackessy John White 7/26, 5:36pm John White I am in college now. My major is mathematics. Minors in computer science, secondary education Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:36pm Jake Mackessy you have duck commander on there too John White 7/26, 5:37pm John White I like to mess with people on here. I love Kilowog and that was his job before training lanterns Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:37pm Jake Mackessy well ***** im writing a book now its got a lot to do with genetics i was gonna have you consult haha John White 7/26, 5:37pm John White awesome , let me think though, I know a ton of people. I teach you about how to find the area of an object in the 6th dimension using calculus? ha Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:39pm Jake Mackessy wha John White 7/26, 5:40pm John White some things we learn in school are useless imo John White 7/26, 5:46pm John White I have seen research done on AIDS using differential equations that was quite interesting Jake Mackessy 7/26, 5:57pm Jake Mackessy yea i did a lot of impressive sounding stuff that i have no use for now cryogenic embryonic cell transfers ive worked with one of three cloned animals... well who knows how many cloned animals there is now John White 7/26, 6:00pm John White for sure. My uncle is a micro-biologist. He has done crazy stuff for grant $ at IU. his wife makes all the $ writing Biology text books Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:03pm Jake Mackessy i took a lot of science classes John White 7/26, 6:04pm John White I bet writing a book is a great way to make extra income Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:05pm Jake Mackessy its a comic that im writing actually not much money there John White 7/26, 6:06pm John White limited to 250? I will take a 9.8! Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:07pm Jake Mackessy John White 7/26, 6:23pm John White what did Ioan Guffurd charge for a sig? do you remember Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:23pm Jake Mackessy hmmm $40 maybe it was in durhams so i forget why is he doing an appearance? John White 7/26, 6:23pm John White Dragoncon Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:23pm Jake Mackessy i need to sell mine hahaha ******** hehehe John White 7/26, 6:24pm John White yes you do! Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:24pm Jake Mackessy John White 7/26, 6:25pm John White I am going to try and get one. 9.8 will be the problem. I am a 9.8 snob with celeb books Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:25pm Jake Mackessy *poke* i got some John White 7/26, 6:25pm John White really? did you not sell them in your thread? Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:25pm Jake Mackessy nope maybe someone asked about them ive been so busy John White 7/26, 6:26pm John White I understand Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:26pm Jake Mackessy ive got like... well let me count... about 300+ slabs in my living room **** i own but havent taken pics of or listed for sale.. John White 7/26, 6:27pm John White Wow, that is what I have in my collection. you need to move some inventory Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:28pm Jake Mackessy i do had to take everything off ebay to make room for sdcc i got a lot of 9.8 image expo books coming too John White 7/26, 6:29pm John White btw did you ever get the Superior back I sent 9.6 baby variant Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:29pm Jake Mackessy yep ******** John White 7/26, 6:29pm John White did you see the stickers? Jake Mackessy 7/26, 6:29pm Jake Mackessy yea luckily i owed someone a 9.6 so it was convienient September 2 John White 9/2, 5:14pm John White man dragoncon was terrible this year. I got a McKone 11 x 17 Capt Am but no one was finishing sketches really September 2 Jake Mackessy 9/2, 9:52pm Jake Mackessy wha really? September 3 John White 9/3, 1:45pm John White Brooks only did two all show, Conner one etc. Everyone was cherry picking so order in line didnt matter. Sucked! Jake Mackessy 9/3, 1:46pm Jake Mackessy argh i hate that, makes waiting in line for nothing a possibility John White 9/3, 1:46pm John White it really does. It it seemed to happen alot this weekend.

Not to take away from what appears as a real issue by bigboytoys but I have been away from the boards and I think that is being taken advantage of by some people because they think I won't be here to reply. First off, ugh why am I doing this TheMightyJohn your again lying directly, please produce the email you say I wrote. You harrassed Tony Daniel to the point that he had to send you your cover directly. I did my best in your instance and yet you lied, without any time given for a refund, and yet when you posted your attempt at a nomination I replied to your post with your full name Arron Lewis and you freaked out about posting your personal information.

And he already hit the notify moderator button on the poll. I guess he feels we shouldn't follow our own guidelines. Didn't you know he is above the rules??? How else could he still operate as a facilitator for CGC with all of the complaints on him Amazing coincidence, or caught in the act? There were at least six brand new boardies, all with 0 posts, all signed up during June of this year, looking at this thread during the time at least 3 of the no votes went up. Mods, will you please look into the following accounts for possible shilling? starbuck1984bsg spaceballsBrooks deadpool197834 profx198743 Surely, nobody here would create shill accounts to mess with a poll. I didn't even vote myself Yes mods please look into all of this.

He's busy. He can't be expected to take care of his customers. Everyone should just realize he's busy and hold their horses. He'll take care of them. After he gets publicly called out on it. And its a wonder why I don't come here anymore? If you took care of your business in a timely manner, this wouldn't happen. If you're too busy to take care of your business here, perhaps you shouldn't offer more than you can handle? It doesn't do much good to offer things up for sale or signings if they can't be completed in a timely manner. One book, which was sent in good faith.. I didn't mislabel the book... out of around 250 books pre ordered books. I am not perfect, yep I am busy I traveled more weeks than I was home this year. Regarding board sketch opps.. this is not the first to go long, and I am not doing board opps anymore for this very reason.

He's busy. He can't be expected to take care of his customers. Everyone should just realize he's busy and hold their horses. He'll take care of them. After he gets publicly called out on it. And its a wonder why I don't come here anymore?