Ok people, everybody gonna need to sit down. I started this thread. I am an amateur. I would say I am an expert comic and card collector since the mid 70s. I have absolutely, positively no experience in anything to do with grading. I have since learned that I suck at it. I decided I wanted to start having stuff graded to sell. So to keep this short. In the name of learning I TOTALLY TOOK ONE FOR THE TEAM. (not sure who is on my team but whatever). I won a $50 each 20 card submission from PSA. I cracked out 10 CSG graded cards I was disappointed with the grades. Figure at worst they would at least grade out the same. Was I fkn wrong!! All were a grade or half grade lower from PSA (just FYI Mantle, Clemente, Koufax, Montana, Mays). I knew they were not 7,8,9,10 but wanted to see how CSG compared to PSA. Thought I would get half to full grade higher. So i will no longer complain about CSG grades. PSA/CSG equal quality grading results. The unfortunate conclusion is the grading is comparable. Unfortunately the return on investment is not. At least at this time. PSA is way to expensive for my stuff. So lesson learned. PSA still brings more ROI than CSG. Is the ROI enough to offset the cost. Depends on how good your stuff is. Mine ain't good enuff.