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My arrival date studies are focussed elsewhere Albert. Someone else can have a go.

Well of course it bloody did

Copy A not shown! Copy H!

This is porn And I think I've added two more since I took that photo Yes, it's one of the reasons I've always flagged caution when using those 'on sale' dates on Mike's site to try to prove things. There's no substitute for a gaggle of consistent pencilled arrival dates and, as you say, you wouldn't expect them all to be the same given the different distances travelled. Would that be a Richard Burton, Rich? Not sure I understand that last point. The April pencil date is an outlier, the other three are in the first half of March. Three months forward is June, so the three month rule is supported by the arrival dates. In this instance Mike's 'on sale dates' - the LOC ones - are clearly not the dates that the books went on sale so they can be discounted.

Wasn't he in Blake's 7?

Yes, that's as good a process as any. If they're reasonable, they'll appreciate the heads up and proceed accordingly.

That's true, but it sort of sends the message that you're less concerned about newbies being scammed than those with post counts over 50. I'm not sure that's the message I'd want to promote. People are people, scamming is scamming. Protections should apply across the board, I think. The spirit of your thinking was good and noble, but the application proposed doesn't work. I would stick to the rule you brought in to limit scammers. It seems to have worked, as you said, and it's not unreasonable to ask those seeking to buy and sell here to be reasonably active community members.

Yes, sorry about that. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, it sort of invalidates the proposal, doesn't it.

Mike, where do they make this first post if the WTB forum is invisible to them, and what do you do with them assuming they are posted in a forum other than WTB? If you create the sub forum, what is to stop a scammer joining up to scam the newbie in the same way as they did the regular forum?

So, Albert, I've had a butchers to see whether there is any physical evidence to back up this possibility, the possibility that the June cover dated ST #75 rocked up in the UK at the same time as the May cover dated Gunsmoke Western and JIM number 58's. First up, Mike's does indeed list all three books as being 'on sale' on the 29th of January in the US of A: Those dates are based on the 'Library of Congress' info, example below: I've found three US issues of ST #75 which have arrival dates in March, and one dated April: One explicitly states 'rec'd', if you were thinking they could be 'remove from sale' dates. So the first conclusion is that the LOC dates do not match the extant physical examples. We've always worked on the industry theory that books were on sale around 3 months prior to their cover dates, so March makes more sense than January for a June dated book. We can assume therefore that the UKPVs would have been printed some time in late February 1960. I've found two examples for JIM #58, and both have early March arrival dates: It does appear, therefore, that the books were printed close to each other so your theory that the corresponding UKPVs could have arrived at the same time in the UK looks distinctly possible. There are no Gunsmoke Westerns to be found with arrival dates, alas, and I've studied that issue closely on a number of fronts for many years (Miller, Indicia Types, US Price Font Variations) and don't have one example saved. Given that Miller solicited that one though, I wonder if it would have had a different journey from the printers to the UK anyway? Or maybe the Miller and T&P solicitations would have travelled to the UK together...? Something we'll likely never know. I found this cool example on Heritage while looking - a UKPV JIM #58 with a T&P stamp on it! Lovely One of the other June cover dated books that Mike gives a January 29th LOC date for is Wyatt Earp #29, which has that solitary Miller UKPV. Here's my cents copy: The 8th of March. How cool is that! Oh, and the folder about this I was remembering also had these in it:

Albert, I don't have access to my files, but a quick scan of Heritage and I see three copies of ST #75 with pencilled March arrival dates and one April. Mike's site is invaluable but often the LOC dates don't match those found on physical examples. I don't have time now, but will do the same for the two May 58s at some point and see if they're March too. I've a feeling I've already done this, and likely have a file at home.

I think we might have discussed this possibility before Albert. When I get time, I'll dig about and check some actual on sale dates. I'm sure I have some saved. If they align with Mike's dates, the argument could be justified, if not proven.

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I see your Miller most definite and raise you a Miller most probable! Or is that lower... Anyway, white trousers? If I was Liz I'd let her have him.

I forgot that you posted a copy too

Philip's very short story "The Commuter" appears in this 1953, pulp sized first issue of Amazing Stories: Shouldn't take me long to read tonight, all being well. It's a UK version of the US book, distributed by our very own Thorpe & Porter. I like the 6d remainder stamp inside, which is also just about visible on the cover Here's someone else's US version, for comparison: Note that PKD wasn't famous enough to be included on the cover back in '53. As well as all the UK specific changes, my version doesn't have 'Or Else' and 'The Phantom Truckdriver' stories. Given that Strato reissued, repackage, repackaged the book specifically for the UK market, I wonder why they left the original US price on it? Maybe to make it look more exotic, who knows. Anyway, some Dick to read tonight if I can stay awake.

US distribution copy to UK distribution copy

Your troubled memory serves you well, Gaard...

@Yorick