Philflound

Maybe you should contact the police in the location you are planning on purchasing the collection. I'm sure they would have any word.

3 hours ago, Kalel38 said:

Action 1 to Detec 27 lower grades will "NEVER" flatline.. They will always increase. Whoever though someone would pay 3.1 million for a Action comics #1.. Well they did.. It's like saying who would pay 50 million for a Van Gogh well there are.. 

 

Having someone over in the middle east who owns billions of dollars buying up expensive comics doesn't help the hobby for collectors. This guy has been purchasing tons of high grade, very expensive books. Don't know if he's just bored or will ever put them back in the market. I think he has the top 2 or 3 graded Action #1 if I remember correctly. To him, 3.1 million is a drop in the bucket.

Digital comics have been out for many years now and they didn't have any affect on the paper market. I find it annoying trying to read on my computer as I have to zoom in and scroll to read a page. The only reason why I do it is I don't own the issue or don't want to handle my copy to risk damage.

There are no shortages of AF15. There are over 2700 copies graded so far and more get graded each week. There are easily probably over 10,000 copies, maybe 25,000 in existence in various grades. But if you figure the amount of Spiderman fans out there, I don't think they'll be a shortage of buyers if copies can be had for $5k or under. I think the low grade copies will flatline or possibly drop very slightly if there is a softening of the market on the low end. Higher end seem to always have buyers. I would not doubt many of these sales are with the high end dealers speculating and holding them to flip for the future.

Even if it were legit, having the ability to fabricate a cover in reverse would probably never be graded by CGC.

5 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

 I never claimed to be an expert on all things within the hobby and/or industry. I clearly know more than you about some things.

You repeatedly attempt to mock my knowledge and dismiss my posts as nothing more than opinion. Everybody has opinions. Not everybody has informed and rational opinions.

And I know more than you about some things too. I've been collecting comics since 1984. I owned my own store for a few years. I ran a small chain of 3 stores after that for 4 more years. I've been doing Ebay since 1998. I have much experience with the market.

The Marvel 2nd printing variant cover thing is a play and the comic is recognized as a 2nd print by CGC and all other Marvels that have similar notations on the covers are also listed as reprints and not variants.

I think the cover A & B thing is a bit confusing too. Several companies are now using that terminology on the comics themselves. CGC is now listing some of those variants as Cover A, Cover B, Cover C, etc. These are comics that come out at the same time. A reprint coming out a month or more later I agree is definitely not a variant, and CGC will list that as 2nd printing, 3rd printing, etc. 

I just purchased the new Swordquest #1 comic book from Dynamite and they do list Cover A, Cover B, etc, but then don't list those words for the incentives. I have 5 of the covers, I believe there were 6. I may pick up the 1:20 incentive if the price is right. I could not afford ordering 20 copies of the book just to get one.

7 hours ago, ygogolak said:

Well you certainly have me confused. You don't know what a variant is?

You didn't know? Lazyboy is an expert with the entire comic book field. Can't you tell by his awesome responses?

Lazyboy just wants to go the opposite route in this debate. Though he makes statements, it's just his opinion as were mine and everyone else's. Thing is, if something is selling, then it's a fact, not an opinion. CGC is not distinguishing all newsstands, only the issues that have some kind of paper/price difference. So accept it for what it is. I was informing those who want variations of their books that are legitimately recognized by CGC and is currently not listed as variants to contact them. If you don't want to part of the newsstand variation collecting community, that's ok. There are plenty out there that do.

As Revat said, I think completionists will want any newsstand, so 1990s Marvels are just as good. And print runs on 1990s ns is not high. My guess would be a few thousand from the mid-1990s on. Print runs were rather low when Marvel had Heroes World. Besides the fact that many stores were going belly up.

Yes, there was a display. This person is selling the assembly instructions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Evel-Knievel-1970s-Marvel-Comic-Book-Floor-Display-Instructions-/112474855499?hash=item1a3006184b:g:asgAAOSwLnBX9bl2

There are times when a variant will be created. All those Image newsstands that are now being separated is one case. There will be plenty of copies of ns Image that were not identified until it was discussed and decided along with suggestions from collectors that there be separate listings. This also goes for the Marvel ns price variants. There are plenty that still have only one listing. Marvel had price variants back in the 1990s where direct editions were $1.99 and the newsstands were $1.95. I remember when I had my store back then and even though it was only 2 more cents per book cost, it would add up if ordering several hundred Marvels. The later issues, which I think was in the late 2000s had direct at $2.95 and ns at $3.95 if I'm correct. That is a much bigger difference. I can only suggest that if you want your newsstands listed separately because there is a difference to be graded, then make the suggestion upon submission. Include a note or give a call and speak to customer service or modern grader so they're aware that there should be a separate listing if there isn't one already.

I was at a thrift store today that had 1990s Marvel newsstands. I don't think there were any differences from the direct though I didn't have directs to compare. I considered buying them because I personally think that there is a market for ns editions, even if not a variant, and could appreciate in some value in the future for certain collectors.

22 hours ago, Silver said:

Will be my 30th year at SDCC. I still love going, I attend panels, look around, enjoy the Gaslamp scene, look at comics. Check out the movie and TV stuff. There isn't anything else like it. The con has changed, but I get to meet book writers, see tv and movie premiers, see tv stars. It's cool. 

I don't see any words saying you buy comics. This is what the dealers complain about. People go to the con for everything but buying books. Unless you do and just didn't mention it.

I personally think there should be notes on all books unless there really aren't flaws. By having light spine stress lines in a 9.6, you know why it is a 9.6 and not higher. Most people just assume there is some minor flaw with a 9.6 or 9.4 keeping them from being 9.8. 

It is true that double cover square bounds have the outer cover not attached. If you come across any attached, then they were faked. It is pretty easy to determine if an outer cover is legit as it is completely clean on the inner spine of any glue residue and any small spine stress lines should line up perfectly.

I'm not calling England. Don't get that free phone call. Plus I doubt if they're still in business. Haven't looked online for that though.

Nothing on them has a Marvel copyright, so I don't think they were either. I've seen other FPI Leeds stickers though not these.

6 minutes ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

Is it slabbed (i.e. examined by CGC and determined to not be a fake)?

Yes, it has been slabbed. Not sure who owns it or where it is now.

I guess no one has any info or opinion on my stickers. I considered putting together a set of what I have (without variations) and minus the Frankenstein in the middle bottom since I don't have a duplicate of that one. I wasn't sure what to sell them for, or possibly put a starting bid at. Not all stickers are cut perfectly though.

I think Chuck does enough internet business that SDCC will be no biggie. I think other big comic dealers should also bail and then we'll see if it's still called a COMIC con. Should be called SD Media Con

8 hours ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

Someone mentioned the NS for 9 doesn't have a poster. So it wouldn't be "missing" it was just never there in a complete copy.

There is actually 1 copy that had a barcode with glossy paper and poster. I'm not sure if it was a fluke, or possible overstock interiors and they just used a newsstand cover on it. Every other newsstand copy has matte paper with no poster.

Rai is noted in the label text as to whether it is matte or glossy. There are not separate listings for them.

17 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

No, it doesn't.

Here's what Chuck is claiming: in 1990, the newsstand accounted for a mere 15% of the total comics market. In 1995, it accounted for 10%...according to Chuck, who said these were "rough" estimates.

If that's the case (and it's not, but let's accept it for the sake of the argument), then can we say, roughly, that by 1992, that figure was 12-13%?

By that reasoning, yes.

So, 1% of the current listings being newsstands doesn't mirror Chuck's claim at all....and Spawn #1 is a special case. Even if the OVERALL market was what Chuck said, Spawn #1 is one of those exceptions, like ASM #361, that makes the rule.

Wouldn't there be some record of ns distribution somewhere? Maybe the Image offices themselves? It would be curious to learn from them. I think there is a small market for ns covers and am snatching up any Image book I can get for like $1.50 or under.

On 7/3/2017 at 4:50 PM, newshane said:

 

There are currently 3367 9.8 copies on the CGC Census. Once again, the CGC doesn't differentiate between the two editions so we'll never know, for sure, how many CGC examples are out there. Using 5% as the average for newsstand sales (which is probably inaccurate, but just throwing out a figure) there are 168 graded (9.8) newsstand copies out there.

 

They do now. Almost all Image books that have both direct and ns are being differentiated if they 1.) have a price difference and/or 2.)have different paper quality for the ns. In the case of Spawn #1, there is no difference short of the bar code so there won't be a separation between ns or direct.

On 6/30/2017 at 4:14 PM, Readcomix said:

That's true. But so often these days what the seller has to say about grade is that they are not "a professional grader" and won't give a grade. No one is. There's no certifying body. It's not medical school. 

I'm for third party grading but it does not abdicate one from the responsibility to learn to approximately grade a raw book themselves, have a discussion about it with other collectors, and, when transacting raw, simply come to an agreement on a close grade range, or simply agree to disagree and walk.  I get that that's tougher on eBay than face to face, but then only sell graded OR offer lots of pix and descriptions and a reasonable return policy based on you (seller) missing something significant. Buyer's remorse in a collectibles marketplace is not a very good reason. 

Of course, many low price items are not worth the work. Without a reasonable person on each side of the deal, I get that at can be difficult. No perfect answer; at least, I don't have it.

If someone is not "willing" to grade a book because they fear repercussions, then the least they should do is describe defects and have decent quality scans. It's important for collectors to know if staples are popped or spines are split or there are interior stains. At least the buyer can get a feel for the grade. More important is sellers should make sure all pages are there and nothing is cut out.

Early in my Ebay career (back in 1999 I think) I purchased a board game that the seller said they did not know if it was complete. I took my chances and it was missing all the cards. I discovered this by looking at the instructions and seeing what the contents were. The seller knew what was missing because he did the same thing and feigned ignorance.  I lost out (early Ebay didn't have disputes) and the best I could do was leave a negative fb. Sellers should know what they are selling or not be in the business of selling the item. Do a little research.

For comics, at least for the most part, GCD works well as to content, though I do find a few mistakes now and then. Page count is usually given and can help big time, especially for older books with 16-12, 12-8 or 10-10 wraps.

The easiest way to tell if a book is faded vs color misprinted is to compare the colors from the front/back cover. Reds should definitely match, and you'll most likely see the reds on the back are bright while the front are faded. If the back colors look as faded as the front, then either inks were running low or out completely. 

I agree with most people on here. I don't necessarily think there are markets for some variations, but for those who do collect them, kudos to them. I personally have been snatching up as many newsstand Image books that I can find at $2 and under. I haven't gotten Spawn #1 or 9 yet, but do have many other issues. I'm hoping there will be a market in the future.