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Did you forget to apply the clearly needed;

Kudos to that forum member for rubbing salt into your open wounds and all the others affected.

Thanks for doing that Stefan! As mentioned, even out of the slab that book now presents like excrement due to the bending... Truly helps to drive the point home to avoid ALL post 2023 slabs.

even out of the slab the book looks like excrement due to the bending...

Plus an $$$ incentive against spreading the word about purchasing newer slabs.

Keep in mind the handling of the Newton Rings issue which began in 2016

I have books slabbed as far back as 12 years ago with the "tabs" "clip" "holder", many are digests, some are standard comics and some are thick comics in a magazine slab. I've no issues the with the "plastic clip". What I find unacceptable is submitting flat books and receiving them back warped, curved, concave-d, convex-ed by CGC. Waiting for the Santa Ana winds to begin blowing, I'm not a dealer so I don't care how heavy or large a slab is as long it does not damage my comics - assuming of course the grading is just as strict, hopefully stricter! P.S. I wish CGC would treat all our Comics with the same care and respect Joeypost and other huge submitting entities receive.

So on some books if you crack it out it may be fine and thats OK? But then why pay for slabbing in the first place? It's a huge negative selling point.

Exactly my thinking. Although I've extended my ban to 435 series and higher. Due to the slab issue, I've used my collectible "budget" the past 6 weeks towards slabbed vintage pre war trading cards have only purchased 2 CGC books in that time both of which are 2nd gen slabs. Of course and this is not a humble brag , I now have $650 in grading credit, 150 which must be used by Nov. I will use that 150 towards vintage sealed video games grading. Only hoping I don't hear about issue with those type of CGC slabs... As for comics as of this moment in time I do not see envision any future scenario where I will send mine to almost certainly be outright damaged or warped or curved or concaved in any manner. Since I Do Not Sell comics, I'll be stocking up on eGerber supplies and going back to the 1990's in effect. Although on some books I'll go with Cole clear backing boards.

I'm not seeing white line extend to the staple - top staple?

The issue does not occur apparently for Large Monthly and Annually Volume Submitter's (or influencer's) - example JoeyPost who has stated in all his sub's he has never received any book with the issues reported in this thread. This means cause is known, but there is something in the process or materials done/used for large submitting entities that is not done or anyone else even if if the books are re-holdered. It also means unless you can see a book in person you wont know if its been affected or not. Those who purchase online may want to stick to a venue where the buyer holds all the power (eBay), and ensure to use a credit card for when (not if) a dispute and chargeback is needed.

Something to keep in mind - while it guarantees absolutely nothing, there is powerful tool few consumers realize they have: Credit Card Disputes and Charge Backs regardless of the outcome of dispute Merchants/Sellers/Businesses/etc pay the cost (a fee) to the Card Issuers. Does not matter if the Credit Card is used for Good or SERVICES. If enough of them are filed with a large Credit Card issuer like Bank of America or Chase they will start to at least pose difficult questions to the Merchants/Sellers/Businesses/etc if enough people state similar reason in the dispute. Example; An item sent for a service offering was damaged by the Merchant. Or a purchased good was sold damaged but not advertised as such. Below sampled from; https://www.credit.com/blog/what-happens-to-the-merchant-when-you-dispute-a-charge/ What Happens to the Merchant When You Dispute a Charge? If you successfully dispute a charge, the bank will notify the merchant and return funds to the issuing consumer via a chargeback. From here, merchants can decide if they want to dispute the chargeback or not. If you file a dispute for a credit card charge with a bank, that bank will quickly notify the corresponding merchant that you’ve initiated this process. From here, the merchant can review your claim and decide whether or not to accept or deny your dispute. According to the Federal Trade Commission, you can withhold payment for disputed charges while the investigation is underway. Your credit card company can’t penalize you with late fees, interest, or reports to the major credit reporting agencies regarding nonpayment of those charges. What Is a Chargeback? A chargeback occurs when you successfully dispute a charge on your credit card. The charge is taken off your credit card account and the money paid to the merchant is reversed (or “charged back” to the merchant). Many people dispute credit card charges for services not rendered. A chargeback can be a powerful tool for consumers who do not receive products or services they paid for, but it comes with several caveats. Even if the credit card company sides with you, the merchant may not—and they may try to collect the chargeback funds. When you dispute a charge with your credit card company, it must conduct what the law calls a “reasonable investigation” to determine whether the charge was correct. It must also present you with the result of the investigation within 90 days. During that process, the credit card company typically reaches out to the merchant involved in the charge. It requests documentation from the merchant regarding the transaction in question, and the merchant may be able to state why the charge was correct. If the credit card company sides with you, it removes the charge from your credit card statement, and you do not need to pay the charge on your credit card.

execs who's only true goal is to pad their next bonus then skedaddle to wreck havoc at another firm Or a parent company doing a pump n dump

Purchasing post 2022/2023 slabs too for you ?

Love to see a pic

If color loss is on the bindery it can be 9.8 but anywhere else it seems 9.6 max. Technical grade and how a book presents I think does not take effect until 9.9 and 10 As they say "buy the book not the label". I've many 9.6 and 9.4 that present much nicer than some of my 9.8's. There are also weak 9.8's and strong 9.8's

CGC can simply give everyone the the same level of QC and Inner-wells that huge submitters or influencer's like Joey receive. No reason this has to continue when the large submitting entities are not and have not been affected - it also proves the issue is known, and a work-around/solution/fix already exists!

Good Lord that's a lot!

Reading the comments on that video and seemingly everyone agrees that it is Damaging Comics. Rare to see 99+% agreement on anything. look at the comment by @Dave616 the youtuber pinned.

“I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted.” - WC Fields

Axelrod, If you want them pressed by the best, not to mention the most professional, plus evade inner well issues send them to Joey for pressing + submission.

Agreed those who need a fix would have sold it for quick $50. Never underestimate the need for a junkie to get a quick fix. The drugs or lack thereof are in Total control. BTW I do get @Buzzetta rather humorous comment

If accounting for inflation in a generic manner the gap between 2019 and 2024 on that book is less.

Extending my date for purchasing, unless viewed in hand first, back to Dec 2021 or earlier graded books. I do expect when I receive my affected books back from CGC to be sickened that they are still concave or worse... My next overall is to simply drop graded Comics and go full-time buying SGC and PSA slabbed Trading Cards instead. Unless somehow Newport Beach's Comics effort becomes an unlikely success.