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  1. They made the scale so it’s whatever they say it is - but does seem odd to call a book MINT if it has anything less than a perfect wrap. There is a bronze Batman 9.9 for sale close by with a mis-wrap - a Mint should not have such obvious visual issues
  2. My very unprofessional opinion - no particular order - For modern books - 9.9/10 probably need to be the "goal" in terms of collectors looking for rarity. 9.8 is just too common. And this probably applies to a lot of late Copper stuff too (NM 98). So I don't mind the idea that the category of Mint books expands to some larger ratio - top 1%? Ultimate Fallout 4 has 16,251 Universal copies with 4,249 9.8s - that is 26% of books at 9.8. 1% of that 16k as 9.9 would give you 162 - where there are none currently. That starts to put the 9.9 in the same rarity range as 9.8 copies of IH181, ASM 129, etc etc. But still a lot more common than really high grade early silver and gold. - For really valuable Silver or Bronze 9.8s where the price gap between 9.8 and 9.6 is very, very large - not sure how many people will take the chance. Very often discussed that the difference between a 9.6 and 9.8 can often feel as if it was determined by the direction of the wind that given day. So I am skeptical that we will see the IH181 9.9 population jump from 1 to 10 anytime soon or if ever. And yes, there are always high-grade, un-graded copies out there but the 14k Universal copies of 181 thus far have 9.8 return rate of 1% (Would be interesting to see how that return rate has changed over time). Doesn't feel like they are adding 20 new 9.8s for every 2k copies graded. Now, if you are sitting on a really attractive non-key Silver issue in 9.8 - maybe you take a swing and get a 1 of 1 9.9. That could open up a whole different market of collecting. So - I am not overly concerned that this one GSX book is a sign of a sea change. But I do expect to see growth of 9.9s in Moderns - but even that will take time to become the new 9.8
  3. I think the saying goes "the house always wins".
  4. And up a bit from last sold..... Detective Comics #27 6.5 - $1.74M May 2022 (Goldin)
  5. Good point. I think that book was Oct 1970. Probably won't get kicked out of either forum if you were to call any books in that 18 month window from mid-69 to early 1971 as one or the other.
  6. It’s really an interesting question. Issue 80 was published Jan 1970 which is typically considered first Bronze year. I may be cheating but I like to think all ASM are Silver up to the switch to the picture frame covers with #102. I just can’t make myself think that the iconic vertical price box and art for the 12c and 15c issues are anything other than Silver
  7. Getting back to original topic - I had about 7 childhood copies of Star/Marvel Masters of the Universe #1. Submitted all to CGC and 6 came back 9.8 back in early 2021. Kept 1 for myself and sold the other 5 9.8s for around $450 each. Current 90 day is around $175. Not a huge book so I am making up the impact on volume
  8. Silver, Bronze and Copper all really started the down leg in Spring of 2021. Silver had a Fall rally but started a more robust decline in Spring 2022. here is a whole multi-year thread if you want to waste some hours.
  9. Don't let this lowly Silver guy (me) creep over here and stir up trouble!
  10. Please be gentle with me.....I am not a hard-core GA collector and have only had a passing interest in the Promise Collection (and only read the last half dozen pages of this thread). I have never seen a robust recap of the GA market overall but there are some where people have been tracking Silver, Bronze, and Copper (Silver attached below for reference). Most of these indexes show that the Mid-to-late 2021 window was the peak and all those markets are off those peaks by roughly 50%. The original Promise Collection auctions hit right during that peak window. Is the belief that the decline in Promise books is outside/above any normal declines in GA overall market? I appreciate that there are some very brutal numbers in that recap for some books - so the aggregate view may mask the challenge of many specific Promise books. And also appreciate that GA may be harder to "index" for multiple reasons. Just curious - especially with the polarizing effect that the Promise Collection seemed to engender among some collectors.
  11. Here are some highlights from the rest of the Feb/March Session 2 Clink auction. This has a lot more of the work-a-day books/grades. There are actually some encouraging signs buried in here if you look past all the red (except for books like GSX 1) - a lot more places where last sale, 90-day average and/or 12 month average are getting closer together. Some of the GPA data around last thru 12 month average is probably more relevant than the actual Clink results.
  12. And yet this happened on Heritage at the same time.....
  13. If you look at these three index charts from the Swagglehaus video I posted on previous page - one could argue that the Silver and Bronze market is starting to flatten. They might be reaching a point where they are just going to bounce around the current levels - when viewed in aggregate - while individual books may continue to under or over perform. Copper may still have some more room to correct. At a minimum the rate of decline is improving. Go back two years or so and the monthly declines were pretty staggering