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Okay not 2 years but it's been stuck for a while and not moving at all. Unless the turnaround times at CGC went up recently, this thing should already be graded. @KaileeS CS

hey @KaileeS CS thank you for your response! the submission was graded, but I noticed two cards are missing grades! Cert #'s 4270971027 and 4270971025..... any insight as to why these aren't showing up with a grade?

@KaileeS CS I saw that you answered another member's post on this topic, is there any way you could kindly check on the submission below? Order #: CGC6770629957

I just want to say I called this happening almost exactly. You’re welcome community.

CGC, Any updates on your end regarding this? Are the collectibles safe? I hope all employees are safe as well!!

There's PSA 10's out there with literal marker on them, it happens. I collect Holo and Reverse Holo 9.5 skyridge slabs myself so I understand the pain with this one my dude.

Do me a favor. Go to the grading scale. Look for any quantitative numbers for actual cutoffs/parameters/etc. Let me save you some time. There are none. Have a good day.

yeah the 9.5 being gem mint literally goes against the pattern of the rest of their scale. How they missed this is perplexing as the guy with 1 comment on this forum would say: CGC 7 = Near Mint CGC 7.5 = Near Mint + CGC 8 = NM/Mint CCG 8.5 = NM/Mint + CGC 9 = Mint CGC 9.5 = Mint + (??????)

Wanting to 5-10X the value of my higher end slabs is not perplexing. It’s perplexing that this is your first activity on this forum. Happy to be the one to finally get you to participate.

First, here is the Director of Operations at Ludkins today (2:34:00 in the video) mentioning getting 40 or 50 CGC Pristine 10's on Fire Red Leaf Green Reverse Holos (out of 400-500 submitted). So yeah, 10's are being given now . But where does this leave all the Pristine 10 cards currently trapped in CGC 9.5 slabs? Is anyone going to send those in for review to try and upgrade to a 10? It would be incredible PR for CGC, and would result in others doing the same (more $$ for CGC)... so we all win. It would also open the door for people to send in PSA 10's to try and get CGC Pristine 10's, as a CGC 9.5 is often times the same or better conditioned than an equivalent PSA 10. I have crossed CGC 8.5's to 10's at other grading companies, so I know there's 9.5's out there that deserve 10's. Probably a good amount of 9's as well, but let's focus on the 9.5 for now. It's going to come down to CGC objectively grading those cards under this new 'unofficial' scale they're using.

There are way more 9.5 early EX era ex's than I thought there'd be... Turns out there's lots of us grading/buying them and keeping them out of the market's view haha.

Check their Instagram right now (Crystal Zard 10, Gyarados Skyridge Holo 10, Neo Destiny Zard 1st Ed. 10 etc. that’s just the heavy hitters, lots of Pristine 10 WOTC non holos hitting ebay but check sold listings too as people might be gobbling those up. With the unofficial change in grading scale, I’m now considering sending in another bulk submission, after not sending in anything the last 6 months. Hopefully someone at CGC sees this and smiles knowing they’re making the right moves to turn the ship around right now.

I just want to say that I was RIGHT and CGC is doing exactly what I said to do in the bold text in my original message. CGC should have done this back in August 2021 though rather than now but whatever, they finally realized people want 10’s and 10’s will keep their company thriving for a long time. Check CGC’s Instagram right now and you’ll see a CGC 10 Skyridge Crystal Charizard, CGC Skyridge Gyarados holo, CGC 10 Neo Destiny 1st Edition Shining Charizard….. Called it!

Okay so rather than go the CSG route and explicitly overhaul their grading scale, CGC appears to be actually using their existing grading scale like they should have been from the beginning, and are giving out much more 10’s right now. I’m seeing a ton of vintage english CGC 10 cards on EBay with the new gradient label, meaning they were graded recently, which supports the theory. It’s a smart play by CGC to give people what they are want (10’s) but this should have been done a year ago, better late than never I suppose. Better late than never to actually use the two 10’s on your grading scale rather than cap most cards at a 9.5. Makes sense to actually use the scale CGC themselves invented…. Wonder how many of my 9.5’s would get 10’s now. Hmm.

I really hope Paul is referring to CGC mirroring the CSG changes they just rolled out. My bet is they will. So assuming CGC makes the right business move here and adjusts like CSG did, that means legacy 9.5 get mints will be eligible to be reholdered into a 10… the question becomes does CGC have three 10’s (gem mint, pristine, perfect) or do they go the CSG route and only have gem mint 10 and perfect 10…. Interesting stuff!

Before CGC pays some outside consultant firm a ton of money to find out why their demand has fallen off a cliff, here it is for FREE: CGC is known for giving almost no CGC 10's. People want 10's as they command a market premium which makes customers happy, and this makes customers send in more Bulk to chase more 10's (Positive reinforcement) CGC is also known for giving a lot of 8.5's. CGC 8.5's often sell for less than the cost of grading. Grading becomes a break-even endeavor which makes people feel bad, and people stop sending in Bulk to stop feeling bad (Negative reinforcement) People also don't like being charged for grading 2-3 months in advance due to some made up grading phase (G/E/I) when everyone knows the real grading phase is (G/Q/C)

Hmmm I wonder why Bulk TAT keeps going down?? That’s weird. PSA is still $100/card. Guess we’ll never know. Anyway, check out my Bulk return of vintage cards, lots of 8.5’s but a few 9’s…..

Got back my Bulk received 08/13 recently and got my first 10 (modern hyper rare) and got four 9.5's on early EX era reverse holos (english). Lot's of cards they've give 8.5's on got 9's too. I think CGC finally listened to us and realized their grading scale is literally their biggest competition and are grading a little easier (hopefully). I still think they need to start giving 10's on vintage holos to really get a lot of us submitting again, but if this return is indicative of a change in the grading room it's definitely a move in the right direction.

'Grading/Quality Control' is when we should be charged. That phase usually takes a week max once your submission reaches it.

I was charged for a Bulk submission on 12/27/22 that has been stuck in Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging since then. Customer Service just told me I'll see the cards "mid to late March". So potentially over 3 months beyond when I was charged. Okay sounds great I'll be out thousands of dollars for a few months, no biggie. Let me know if you guys need more.

"Idk when my cards are returning but I do know I've been charged for them to sit in Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging for months" - All CGC graders

100% agreed Zorloth. I am trying to complete a CGC 9 early EX era ex set (English). I have 76 of the 150 ex's in a CGC 9. It's been a GRIND to get to 76 let me tell you. I also have 9 CGC 9.5 ex's as well but I don't count those as part of my master set. And of course the early EX era is the era CGC absolutely loves to give 8.5's on which is worth mentioning. To add to your point, I'm also done grading with CGC for the time being, so hopefully someone out there is grading a bunch of early ex's so I don't have to buy PSA 9's to try and crack to CGC 9's, as the raw supply of mint early EX era is basically 0 at this point.... FML. My other option is to cross my CGC 9's to PSA or something, which might be worth while as some of my 9's would surely be 10's tbh. In between a rock and hard place over here man...

Great news though guys, CGC is grading cards received in a 2 month window! I know this because I have been charged for orders received 2 months apart which means they're being graded together. Incredible that their graders are able to do 2 months worth of work at the same time, so that CGC can collect money from me way in advance while grading these submissions received 2 months apart! Amazing. Hopefully they're using this cash flow to complete their population tool. #doingmypart

Not surprising. Also not surprising that CGC is suddenly making it public how many 10’s they’re giving in their marketing material lately. Better start giving a whole lot more guys, just being honest. Someone linked Poke Knowledge’s video in this thread, but he’s not the only one fed up. Old Skool Pokémon has said he’s over CGC, KetchumAllCollectibles put out a few videos now stating why he’s done with CGC, Echo Base Collectibles has put out a few videos mainly calling out the whole charge-your-credit-card-way-before-the-cards-ship-back maneuver CGC pulls on people, and there’s others. People that have been in the community a long time are just fed up. The community is being very vocal about what needs to be done, I hope CGC is listening.