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JiveTurkeyMoFo
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As an aside, can anyone tell me why there are two different covers to Deadworld # 10? Was there a second printing? I own both, but have never seen a second copy of the "alternate" cover: FWIW, both have the Crow ad on the back.
They are both first printings.
Vince Locke wanted to do more graphic covers on his Deadworld series.
After issues 2 and 3, which had extremely graphic covers, retailers requested less graphic covers because it was scaring their customers (
) I guess its a turnoff when you walk into the comic store with your kids and see guts hanging out of a dead guy, and a severed head in that dead guys hand, on a comic cover, So Arrow started offering a " tame" cover and a " Gore" cover to appease everyone.Vince Locke is a very talented penciler. I always find myself looking at his pages longer than most artists, there is so much detail.
I've had several copies of DW #10 and none of them were the "tame" cover. Also, it's worth noting that it's the first Caliber comic, kinda key in its own right aside from the Crow ad
That's good to know, thanks for the info. My copy of the "tame" cover is the only one I've come across; I wonder what the print run was on it to make it so scarce. And for the record, it's not really that tame. I'll be sure to post a picture of the two when I can get around to it.
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Yeah -- big difference between Gobbledygook 1-2 & the Marvel Age, Image previews, etc.
It's one of scale. a) The print run on the Gobbledygooks was absurdly low; and b) the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were one of the most important things to happen to comics in the last 40 years (can't believe they're older than 30 now).
I like the Youngbood "preview" (aka ad) in Megaton as well, but straight advertisements/previews in in-house comics don't do it for me -- not even if it's a preview of something like Chew in Walking Dead or the various Preacher previews prior to # 1.
That's just me.
That said, I could see someone surprising the market with a full CGC 9.8 run of Marvel Age or Dark Horse Insider a decade from now. _That_ would be hilarious & could make the market as a whole for these books.
I understand what you are saying, but the print run, honestly, means nothing.
If they printed the same amount of gobbledygook # 1 as that DC spotlight, it would still be sought after and valuable. Id guess $50- $100 pretty steady if not much more.
And if you don't believe that, Deadworld # 10 with a Crow ad on the back cover ( exact same situation as gobbledygook # 1 ) is pulling these kind of numbers, and the Crow is nowhere near as popular as TMNT.
It's alright if you want to call a certain book " different" or an " exception" .
I still call it hypocritical, and I don't use that word with any anger or hatred, just for what it means. You can't have it both ways. Well, you can, but then you are, by definition, being hypocritical. Either you recognize previews and ads or you don't. There is nothing different about them.
As an aside, can anyone tell me why there are two different covers to Deadworld # 10? Was there a second printing? I own both, but have never seen a second copy of the "alternate" cover: FWIW, both have the Crow ad on the back.
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Just wanted to thank everyone who takes the time to contribute to this thread and keep the rest of us who don't have our finger on the pulse of the Copper Market updated with recent news. Like many of you, I grew up with comics in the 80s, so the era is especially near and dear to me, and I also spent the better part of the last 15 years buying back a lot of the stuff that went unloved and ignored for so long.....nice to see a fair amount of it is gaining traction with a new generation of collectors. Hope to contribute myself again, now that our newborn is sleeping through the night and I'm no longer sleep deprived and near catatonic. Will also update folks on finds and acquisitions as I have a full slate of shows I'm attending this year, from Charlotte to Miami to Tampa to Chicago to Baltimore. Should be a lot of great Copper still out there, though probably not as much in the dollar bins as there used to be.
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Modern Slow Track #3
5/05 Received
6/06 verified
6/11 scheduled for grading
6/30 Graded
7/3 Grading/Quality Control
7/8 Shipped/Safe
I love it when my moderns, that were received a week before yours, are still sitting in "graded" status, though yours have been shipped for a week now.
Man, that sucks.
Mine was an 8 book submission.
You?
6 invoices of roughly 22-30 books each. I'm not naive to the fact that they tend to get the smaller invoices first and out of the way; that's understandable, but it's already a 2 week difference, and will likely be three by the time they actually ship. CGC may be the only business where the more business you give them, the more you get hosed.
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Modern Slow Track #3
5/05 Received
6/06 verified
6/11 scheduled for grading
6/30 Graded
7/3 Grading/Quality Control
7/8 Shipped/Safe
I love it when my moderns, that were received a week before yours, are still sitting in "graded" status, though yours have been shipped for a week now.
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This book has been demanding money for a while, but not this much.
New Mutants Annual #2 RAW $131.50
What's even funnier is that I pulled two nice copies out of dollar boxes here at Heroes. The Market is always right I suppose, even when it isn't.
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New Exmen movie preveiw make hed hurt. Me like TraNsform3rs. think optiminus pRime shud win oskar in new movie. Marky marK best supportment oskar. transfermors moviesmakes money, so no they r good.Ouch!BOX OFFICE: MALEFICENT Takes The Top Spot From X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST
Despite an incredible opening last week, X-Men: Days of Future Past will fall to second place this weekend in North America with an estimated $32 million three day total after taking $9.6 million on Friday. It's been beaten by Disney's Maleficent, the live-action Sleeping Beauty prequel which stars Angelina Jolie. That earned $24.2 million when it opened yesterday, and now looks set for a $70+ million by the end of tomorrow. $65 million is a more conservative estimate, but that's still a great debut, especially as it has already taken over $20 million overseas.
What happened? X-Men: Days of Future Past had good word of mouth, but yet took a bigger drop then ASM 2 did in its second week? ASM 2 did $35.5 million in its second week, while X-Men: Days of Future Past is estimated to do $32 million.
ASM gets critical reviews, while X-Men: Days of Future Past got universal praise. I am stumped then why X-Men: Days of Future Past had such a drop?
DOFP had some big competition in week 2, ASM2 didn't.
I think you also have to take into account high school graduations and nice weather.
Mainly, I think you have to factor in that DOFP wasn`t brainless enough to appeal to the Transformers crowd.
You forgot the obligatory "lolz".
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I went with my wife and another couple this afternoon to see the film. All of us watch the comic book movies, but I'm the only confirmed comic geek of the group. I think I enjoyed it the most, but even i found the movie lagged in spots. The action scenes were few and far between, and god do I feel sorry for someone who hasn't seen any of the previous X movies trying to enjoy/follow this one. I would give it a solid B- and everyone else in the group was leaning toward a C or so.
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Just saw the movie today. Wow! It`s right up there with the first two Nolan Batman movies as best superhero movies ever, and just a shade better than X-Men First Class.
The 2+ hours just flew by. I really didn`t want the movie to end.
Wow!
Knowing how you will not let the inner fanboy influence your review, that speaks volumes about this movie,
my son and I are going today. is it just me or is NA experiencing superhero movie fatigue? as good as Cap II was, it barely cracked $250mm. ASM is going to crawl past $200mm and now X-Men is down 66% in its second weekend and will struggle to get to $225MM. Wasn't it just 2 years ago that that POS IM3 did $400mm? of course China is picking up the slack, but is that a recipe for financial success given the less profitable nature of overseas BO receipts?
I would say, yes, maybe there is some superhero fatigue, but also:
Captain America just doesn`t seem to be able to pull in as big a crowd, even though the 2 Cap movies were much better than, say, the Thor movies. Maybe he`s just considered to be too small or too hokey.
ASM is down because the Spidey reboot blows.
X-Men is down from Memorial Day weekend, but also perhaps the "reboot" that started with XFC has too much good acting, good dialogue and character development to appeal to the core younger demographic while still not drawing in the cross-over female audience that was so critical for Dark Knight. I believe XFC was the lowest grossing of all of the X-Men movies.
I wouldn't discount the fact that some folks don't go for the following two reasons:
- Tickets and concessions for two adults > the cost of a Blu Ray. Or for a summer blockbuster, wait for Black Friday, and the Blu Ray is $10. ASM 2 and Godzilla are already on my list for November.
- The movie theater experience is really dicey in my area. If I'm shelling out $30, I don't want sub-par audio and a so-so screen. The nice theaters are more expensive, and have more people that attend, which can also drastically alter the movie-going experience.
Having said that, it's hard to ignore that better quality movies like X-Men: First Class and DOFP are going to come in behind the terd that was Last Stand. Fewer people are attending, that's for sure. Perhaps because we are now used to getting 4 or more comic related movies a year, and because they are crossing over more, there is less of a sense of urgency to go see them.
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This entire market is about greater fools rogering greater fools, while even greater fools are waiting for their turn.
I dub thee Finghus Foolus Maxiumus.
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I don't blame anyone, I am just careful not to get caught in the hype. The 100s of dollars I lost in 90s comics saved me many 1000s during the dot com bubble.
I don't think most of these books are going to pure buyers though. I think that they are being sold mostly to other speculators, many of whom are buying way more than one copy.
An actual collector of these books is not going to get hurt too bad. If they buy an X-factor 6 for $40 on E-bay and it drops to $10, no big deal.
It's the guy who has accumulated a short box full of them that is going to be feeling the pain.
I think another generation is going to learn how a speculative bubble turns out.That's the greatest concern during these speculation runs. Especially when you see an overabundance of each book available, and yet the prices keep climbing.
But I wouldn't blame the sellers on this. It is the buyers that keep coming back for more, and driving the prices up.
Well the speculators on eBay just cleared me out of my last three copies of X-Factor # 6 in CGC 9.8 this weekend, at $325, $325, and $350 respectively.
I need to go speculate some more.
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X Factor 6 BIN for $300 or less seems to be a thing of the past. CGC 9.8
Righto. Sold one for $325 last night, and another this morning for the same. Have to adjust the price northward on my last copy. That makes four copies sold in the last two weeks....I guess that means it's hot or something.
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I really hope Fitz is written out now
I don't know, Fitz kinda grew on me. Its a shame they write him out of the series by turning him into a vegetable, or at least, that's what I got out of it.
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Why all the attention on HB #1 and not SST #37? It is the first appearance of John Constantine after all.
That just shows you the level of sophistication of those folks chasing raw copies of Hellblazer # 1 into the stratosphere. It's like wanting a Punisher Limited Series # 1 over ASM 129.
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Finally got around to seeing this last night and I agree with most others, it was very, very good. Intense and well acted by everyone.
I am a big fan of the first Cap movie, mostly due to the WWII setting and the way in which Chris Evans played Cap. It had the right mix of action and drama but had the added bonus of enough funny mixed in that I thought it all worked well. However, I may like Winter Soldier even more.
This movie was completely different in feel. Intense action throughout the movie combined with a great plot and more solid acting. ScarJo has completely sold me on being Black Widow and Chris Evans is Captain America. He is playing the role as good as it can be done. My only complaint is that they need to scale back on some of the crashes and destruction of everything. We don't have to have 30 car crashes and 10 helicarriers/jets crashing to fill up the screen. Outside of that, this film works and works well. Perfect mix of action and spy thriller. It's like James Bond on steroids.
Heck, my wife loved it. In fact, she is totally buying into all of the superhero movies that are coming out now and I never thought this would happen. She asks about the characters and wants background.
I hope everyone realizes that we are experiencing the Golden Age of Superhero movies, especially the way they are treating the Marvel Universe. At some point this will all end, but for now, I am loving it.
A quarter million domestic take, and nearly $700 mil international....Marvel's gotta be happy with that.
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Where the hell have I been?! Last ASM 300 ebay sale was $1000! Had no idea.
I noticed that too. There was one listed for $950 yesterday and it sold right away. It had been hanging around the $800 area for a while.
Yeah, I was the seller on the $950 one. Got multiple offers on it in the first few hours, even though I wasn't really fielding offers, but someone snagged it at full price. I sold a 9.6 not that long ago on ebay for $375. Certainly a book on the uptick.
Looks to be that way. Congrats on the sale.
I'm not sure what to call it, a buyers or sellers market. The last time we saw Venom on the screen he sucked. If Marvel was making the movie then I would hold. Seeing that book being sold at that price has me thinking hard.
The book has strong interest in all grades, and I wouldn't be shocked when Venom is announced in the next Spidey movie (and in his own spin-off movie), that the book in 9.8 climbs into the $1,200-$1,500 range.
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Where the hell have I been?! Last ASM 300 ebay sale was $1000! Had no idea.
I noticed that too. There was one listed for $950 yesterday and it sold right away. It had been hanging around the $800 area for a while.
Yeah, I was the seller on the $950 one. Got multiple offers on it in the first few hours, even though I wasn't really fielding offers, but someone snagged it at full price. I sold a 9.6 not that long ago on ebay for $375. Certainly a book on the uptick.
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All this stronger price activity in the 6.0-8.0 range has got to make the 9.4s and 9.6s look like bargains in comparison.
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So much for Captain America not going over well with international markets.
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER Already Closes In On $100 Million In China
The past few years have seen China become a vital market for Hollywood blockbusters, and Captain America: The Winter Soldier is no exception as it is already closing in on the $100 million mark after just 17 days of release. The exact number is $98.27 million according to The Hollywood Reporter, and part of why its worldwide cume is just days away from passing $600 million.
WOW!
Well, it should come close to $1B by summer's end then, considering it is highly rewatchable. Marvel has to be thrilled that one of the "other" (i.e, non Iron Man) Avengers characters broke out so impressively. Bodes real well for Avengers 2 next year.
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How tough are the Flaming Carrot issues with the TMNT crossover (26 & 27 I believe)?
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Saw it again. Phenomenal movie.
Marvel magic at it's best. I'd put it up there with Avengers and Iron Man 1.
Saw it last night for the first time in the company of four 40-something, relatively well-adjusted comic geeks. All thought it was a 9 out of 10 type movie, and on par, or better, then either Avengers or Iron Man. For some, the story-line was superb. Others really liked the Winter Soldier as a believable menace, as opposed to the cardboard cut-out villain we are often treated to.
Frankly, I think the action sequences themselves were vastly superior to anything we've seen in a Marvel movie. The emphasis on live-action during chase and fight scenes, as opposed to CGI, really knocked it out of the park for me...felt like I was at one of the Bourne films again.
My wife and I will be seeing it tonight....frankly, I can't remember the last time I saw a movie in the theatre and was itching to go back to see it so soon.
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Can anyone offer any reason (that at least would ring true in the context of the MCU) why anyone in the 21st century would want to belong to an organization like Hydra? I fear we're heading into Austin Powers-like absurdity with this plotline.
Without going into some political rant, there are probably numerous people in this world who would want to join an organization that wants to tear down the existing "damaged" society, to build up what they would consider a better one. This is not a new concept in the history of man. While fantastical, it is definitely not out of the realm of possibility that something like this could occur, even in the 21st century.
Without having seen Cap 2 (going tonight), my guess is that Hydra, as an organization, exists like a parasite. It latches on to other organizations (SHIELD, FBI, Nazi party), for sustenance and recruits, because above all else, it seeks to profit/benefit from war, unrest, societal control and upheaval, which if discovered and made public, would instantly lead to its immediate purge and dissolution. Afterall, those institutions mentioned above are there to supposedly protect and safeguard the interests of the people upon whose tax dollars they were funded by, or whose political agenda they are meant to foster. I can't imagine there would be much call for public funding of an organization whose sole purpose is to sew the seeds of mistrust, war, upheaval, or profiteering from all of the above, so Hyrda must remain hidden. While it's origins are facist, I think they take a back seat to the pragmatic need to stay out of the limelight...if anything, Hyrda learned what happened in WW2 to those leaders who boldly proclaimed themselves to be facists; the world rose up and defeated them. Now it infiltrates and controls those organizations that the public thinks are there to protect and defend them, quietly amassing power until the day it no longer needs to hide in the shadows....which, apparently, has finally come.
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The new collection I bought had a shortbox worth of high grade early Dawn stuff that I need to go through. The guy I bought it from said he had 45 copies of the original printing of Cry for Dawn 1 that were stolen from him years ago.....hard to imagine, but the early stuff was always in demand, even back then.
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If Ward is not undercover, they are going to have to find a new leading man type because Coulson just isn't it.
Bill Paxton has a certain presence whenever he is onscreen with Clark Gregg, and yeah, he tends to overshadow him. Clark Gregg is a fine supporting actor, but it's clear neither him nor his character are leading man type material. Even when he is angry and shouting, he reminds me of my 12th grade Chemistry teacher, who was never particularly intimidating either.
) I guess its a turnoff when you walk into the comic store with your kids and see guts hanging out of a dead guy, and a severed head in that dead guys hand, on a comic cover, So Arrow started offering a " tame" cover and a " Gore" cover to appease everyone.
SPOILER-FILLED thread about Agents Of SHIELD
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I actually thought the Skye fight scene was one of the very best action sequences I've seen in a Marvel product....like....ever. Very well done.