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Yikes... I put that under inviso-text. You're a spoiling rat.

Amazing Spider-Man #797 - 1:10 Ed McGuiness design variant. Or Eddie's ComixExposure #796 cover if shop variants are included.

Today's "junk" is tomorrows cash pile. I've done fantastic on every one of these sales. Most retailers look at what's NOT on the list & get discouraged. I look at what has potential. Example: The last few had assorted Tradd Moore Ghost Riders that were dead as mess at the time of sale. They turned into cash pigs. If you have even ounce of talent buying moderns, Many No brainers here.

I'd be curious to see a cBSi's "success" defined. What exactly is it successful at? Where is the proof of this success? cBSi is successful because of they have a civil discussion board? An invite only G+ group that bans anyone who doesnt drink the kool-aid is hardly a "civil forum". But, why would a "comic book investing" site be judged successful based on the civility of its forums? (which they arent) 99% of their articles highlight books which are worth less today then when they were written about..... on a site about "investing". That is is not success, but abject failure. cBSi is successful at *temporarily* pushing up the value of books they highlight (only for them to drop off again soon after). cBSi is successful at helping move store variants, which benefit cBSi and the store, but are worthless as "investments" which is what the site is supposed to be about. cBSi uses the massive resources and internet traffic of the CGC forums, like a leech, to feed themselves. Obviously blacklisting cBSi would be wrong(and I am free speech nut), but there is no shame that CGC doesnt moderate their forum to make the moderns section a cBSi cheerleading squad as some would have it be. cBSi's snake oil peddling only works because of the state of the market for comics right now, when it finally turns, they will be washed out with the tide. I've only been aware of CBSI for a couple of years. The group was brought to my attention by word of mouth from customers that enjoyed it & thought I would too. In two years the fledgling Google group has expanded to a website, a podcast, gatherings all over the country... The CGC boards have the same stagnant look filled with the same fruit-cakes after a couple decades. If you cannot see growth, success & the direction CBSI is trending.. You simply don't want to. (

You cant have it both ways. In the last 2 days Ive listed at least 10 books on here for discussion. You gotta have discussion both ways about books. Its a give and take and it requires contributions and discussion. Some just cant have a discussion and never will learn how. This board is moderated well. Once instigators get strikes again it will go back to normal. Its not like this thread hasn't seen this before. This board is moderated well. Hilarious. One of the many reasons for CBSI's success is the civil forum that they provide. This board has degraded into an online asylum. Overall CGC should be ashamed of what this has become.

And when the character appears on the show it will spike to $139... Then when she's killed on the show it will spike to $179 Then back to $39

Why eBay? Frankie's still has the regular cover up on their site for $23.99. I sent a msg asking if they could send their best copies. I was told they could try, but no guarantees. Since I want this for grading, I went to a seller I've bought from before. I don't know what his deal with Frankies is but he's gotten me good stuff before so I don't mind paying the extra. Besides, if this is like any other dell'otto book, it's gonna be a lot more than $40 once it's out. Who is the seller, DrewBizz? He get's his books the same way you would. You just paid $15 more for the same book. I've bought a TON from him. Solid. West coast online volume guy. CBSI guy too...

Document it, Jay. Just supply the documentation. Which books? Regular books? Retailer incentives? Document it. Prove it. Who are these multiple Diamond account holding "boardies"? Let them speak for themselves. Am I saying you're wrong? Nope. I'm saying you need to document it. I'm not going to take YOUR word for it, Jay. Time to show some actual proof. Who? Who are these multiple "boardies"..? What multiple occasions...? Link them. Do publishers have "tight margins"? Of course they do. Do publishers print overages for spoilage? Of course they do. That is not...in...dispute. What IS in dispute are YOUR claims. What IS in dispute is YOUR contention that since publishers "print to the nearest case", that must apply to every book they print, including incentives. What IS in dispute is YOUR contention that since publishers "overprint for spoilage" that that MUST account for the incentives disposed of after the fact. What IS in dispute is your contention that, since publishers have "tight margins" that they print incentives SOLELY according to what's ordered, when we know that isn't the case. So...document what you've said. Prove it. Not links of YOU saying this. I want links of OTHER PEOPLE saying this. Because what you're saying is wrong? Not necessarily. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But you have a terrible habit of making things up and attributing them to others to "support" your arguments, so I need documentation. And you keep saying things that are contrary to fact and history. 1. Publishers that sell through the newsstand have, since the beginning of comics, routinely overprinted books. That's called "publishing." They print far more than they think they'll need, and hope for a sell-through of 30-50%. Publishers that sell through the newsstand today (DC, etc) STILL DO THIS. 2. No one said publishers print "just for the heck of it." That is YOUR (mis)characterization, not anyone else's. Publishers print what THEY THINK they need. We don't know what THEY THINK they need. That is up TO THEM. Stop repeating things that you invent as if others said them. It's dishonest and fraudulent. Just document it, Jay. Not opinions from others, actual documentation. And no, I don't have to prove what "we don't know", because WE DON'T KNOW. That is a logical fallacy. If we don't know it, how do I PROVE that...? Wrong again. You can't make up hyperbole and then attribute that to other people. It's a logical fallacy. No one said anything about "needlessly over printed." And...one more time: publishers sell (almost) ALL their books for "under cover price." Yes, you keep repeating that..."reasonable" estimates...because, as everyone knows, the key to successful propaganda is to keep repeating something that isn't true as if it IS true, and it will eventually be believed by most of the people. There's nothing "reasonable" about using the ORDERING ratios applied to a SALES estimate to extrapolate a PRINT run. It's manifestly ridiculous. "Typical publishing standards" means nothing. It's a buzz phrase you use to shore up support. The publicly available data is sales estimates in North America and the ordering ratios. If they are not incentive variants, they are Not. Relevant. To. The. Discussion. We are only talking about incentive variants, here. If they aren't incentive variants, they're not relevant to this discussion. Not ignored. Not forgotten. Just not relevant. Do you know what "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" means....? Condescending, much? I only point it out because you complained about it. I don't particularly care, but if you're going to do that which you complain about, what does that make you again....? Hey, look, more fraudulent assertions! How surprising! What does "how many people you are corrected" mean? Details. Yes, Jay, and I will hopefully be there each time you continue to misrepresent the discussion for your own agenda to counter it. The time you have.... Insanity.

You've just said the exact same thing, using different words. Read the post again. Here, I'll just say it again: for every, say, 25 copies a retailer orders (and Diamond DISTRIBUTES to them), they qualify to receive OR purchase ONE (1) copy of the incentive...that is, Diamond will DISTRIBUTE a SINGLE copy of the incentive for every 25 copies of the regular they order. They are NOT distribution numbers in the sense of how many TOTAL COPIES are distributed, no. They ARE, however, distribution numbers in the sense of how many copies can be distributed to INDIVIDUAL retailers. Ohhhh, "I" get it Rock, I understand the system completely. What you are describing as: "Distribution numbers" to define: ratio variants 1:10, 1:25, 1:50, 1:100 ect & their actual print run, needs a better term. Use your words... C'mon now you preachy . Fix your lazy error. They're initial distribution numbers for regular weekly comic shipments, not total distribution numbers which would account for reorders, summit/convention giveaways, blowout sales, etc. Regardless of what you call them, they are definitely not print run numbers, which is the main point. regardless of what you call them, they are definitely not print run numbers, which is the main point Yes, but still a lazy name. Fix it Rock.

You've just said the exact same thing, using different words. Read the post again. Here, I'll just say it again: for every, say, 25 copies a retailer orders (and Diamond DISTRIBUTES to them), they qualify to receive OR purchase ONE (1) copy of the incentive...that is, Diamond will DISTRIBUTE a SINGLE copy of the incentive for every 25 copies of the regular they order. They are NOT distribution numbers in the sense of how many TOTAL COPIES are distributed, no. They ARE, however, distribution numbers in the sense of how many copies can be distributed to INDIVIDUAL retailers. Ohhhh, "I" get it Rock, I understand the system completely. What you are describing as: "Distribution numbers" to define: ratio variants 1:10, 1:25, 1:50, 1:100 ect & their actual print run, needs a better term. Use your words... C'mon now you preachy . Fix your lazy error. But his entire point is invalidated if he isn't allowed to invent and then use his own terminiology. -J. With your history and reputation .... I wouldn't go there, Lar. -J. My "history & reputation" is built on the backs of vindictive online lunatics like yourself. Do your worst, I'll thrive.... You are a lying cheating scumbag trying to manipulate market on books you own. It's SO transparent. it's embarrassing....

You've just said the exact same thing, using different words. Read the post again. Here, I'll just say it again: for every, say, 25 copies a retailer orders (and Diamond DISTRIBUTES to them), they qualify to receive OR purchase ONE (1) copy of the incentive...that is, Diamond will DISTRIBUTE a SINGLE copy of the incentive for every 25 copies of the regular they order. They are NOT distribution numbers in the sense of how many TOTAL COPIES are distributed, no. They ARE, however, distribution numbers in the sense of how many copies can be distributed to INDIVIDUAL retailers. Ohhhh, "I" get it Rock, I understand the system completely. What you are describing as: "Distribution numbers" to define: ratio variants 1:10, 1:25, 1:50, 1:100 ect & their actual print run, needs a better term. Use your words... C'mon now you preachy . Fix your lazy error. But his entire point is invalidated if he isn't allowed to invent and then use his own terminiology. -J. "Scumbag Pot" calling the "Eccentric Know it all", Kettle black.

Comichron reported a print run on #3 of 85,156 How many of that are the 1:25 is anyone's guess but rough estimate is 3,406 Id think it was higher. When it came out I was able to get a variant or 2 at every store I stopped in that day. Its not a huge print run mind you, but it is a Marvel book and its Star Wars. And really while its selling well only the variant is starting to move well. The regular issue is still $10-20 book. At one point I was selling regular issue $15 and variant $60 so the variant has seen about a 25% increase currently while the regular issue has just gotten back to its price when it came out. And that book eventually ended up on a Diamond / Marvel 25 cent sale.... So higher than 3,406. My guess: Whatever case pack was rounded up.

You've just said the exact same thing, using different words. Read the post again. Here, I'll just say it again: for every, say, 25 copies a retailer orders (and Diamond DISTRIBUTES to them), they qualify to receive OR purchase ONE (1) copy of the incentive...that is, Diamond will DISTRIBUTE a SINGLE copy of the incentive for every 25 copies of the regular they order. They are NOT distribution numbers in the sense of how many TOTAL COPIES are distributed, no. They ARE, however, distribution numbers in the sense of how many copies can be distributed to INDIVIDUAL retailers. Ohhhh, "I" get it Rock, I understand the system completely. What you are describing as: "Distribution numbers" to define: ratio variants 1:10, 1:25, 1:50, 1:100 ect & their actual print run, needs a better term. Use your words... C'mon now you preachy . Fix your lazy error.

Hate to challenge the Emperor... Great post. Wrong description. Distribution numbers? Hardly. They're incentive / ratio numbers.

I know hot off of SDCC, these were highly touted, then suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons, where once though to be scarce, now overprinted, and a lot of customers grabbed stacks to horde and hold, so I'd probably shy away from these if buying on speculation more than passion, since I'd guess there's quite a bit of 'em out there, probably more supply than demand, with lots of folks waiting in the wings to offer 'em up on eBay, and because they're free, the cost of goods / cost basis is $0, and they can afford to sell 'em at $0.99 or whatever and garner pure profit. suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons Okee dokee... ( ACTUALLY the top 1,000 Diamond accounts were shipped fifty ea...) I gave them away. This weekend in NY Gerard gave away a "Doom Patrol song" to the 300 fans that attended his panel. They were cassettes. He's becoming the "killer promo guy' fast. Not saying the b&w promo will put your kids through college or pay for your prescription.... Easy $10 soon though. Ask anybody set up in NYCC how his stuff sold there. Gangbusters. 1,000 x 50 = 50,000 2,000 = 1 ton 50,000 = 25 tons So, yes there's tons of them out there and they're still sitting at LCS's around here in the free stacks Oh, They weigh a pound each? My mistake. Tons it is.... Carry on sniping & being miserable to each other.... Average comic weighs 1.8 ounces. If there's 50k copies (50 copies per retailer x 1000 retailers), that's 90,000 ounces. 90,000 ounces = 5,625 lbs. So technically a little over 2.75 short tons. Or 2.55 metric tons or 2.51 gross/imperial tons. I mean, if we're going to be pedantic, might as well go all the way Cool. It's an ashcan. Remeasure & get back to me. Gimme a page count & I'll get you a weight on the whole print run in about 30 seconds. Each page weighs approximately 0.1 ounces with a 0.1-0.2 ounce cover. So the math ain't hard. Yes. I've done it. ( and it ain't a ton )

I know hot off of SDCC, these were highly touted, then suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons, where once though to be scarce, now overprinted, and a lot of customers grabbed stacks to horde and hold, so I'd probably shy away from these if buying on speculation more than passion, since I'd guess there's quite a bit of 'em out there, probably more supply than demand, with lots of folks waiting in the wings to offer 'em up on eBay, and because they're free, the cost of goods / cost basis is $0, and they can afford to sell 'em at $0.99 or whatever and garner pure profit. suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons Okee dokee... ( ACTUALLY the top 1,000 Diamond accounts were shipped fifty ea...) I gave them away. This weekend in NY Gerard gave away a "Doom Patrol song" to the 300 fans that attended his panel. They were cassettes. He's becoming the "killer promo guy' fast. Not saying the b&w promo will put your kids through college or pay for your prescription.... Easy $10 soon though. Ask anybody set up in NYCC how his stuff sold there. Gangbusters. 1,000 x 50 = 50,000 2,000 = 1 ton 50,000 = 25 tons So, yes there's tons of them out there and they're still sitting at LCS's around here in the free stacks Oh, They weigh a pound each? My mistake. Tons it is.... Carry on sniping & being miserable to each other.... Average comic weighs 1.8 ounces. If there's 50k copies (50 copies per retailer x 1000 retailers), that's 90,000 ounces. 90,000 ounces = 5,625 lbs. So technically a little over 2.75 short tons. Or 2.55 metric tons or 2.51 gross/imperial tons. I mean, if we're going to be pedantic, might as well go all the way Cool. It's an ashcan. Remeasure & get back to me.

I know hot off of SDCC, these were highly touted, then suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons, where once though to be scarce, now overprinted, and a lot of customers grabbed stacks to horde and hold, so I'd probably shy away from these if buying on speculation more than passion, since I'd guess there's quite a bit of 'em out there, probably more supply than demand, with lots of folks waiting in the wings to offer 'em up on eBay, and because they're free, the cost of goods / cost basis is $0, and they can afford to sell 'em at $0.99 or whatever and garner pure profit. suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons Okee dokee... ( ACTUALLY the top 1,000 Diamond accounts were shipped fifty ea...) I gave them away. This weekend in NY Gerard gave away a "Doom Patrol song" to the 300 fans that attended his panel. They were cassettes. He's becoming the "killer promo guy' fast. Not saying the b&w promo will put your kids through college or pay for your prescription.... Easy $10 soon though. Ask anybody set up in NYCC how his stuff sold there. Gangbusters. 1,000 x 50 = 50,000 2,000 = 1 ton 50,000 = 25 tons So, yes there's tons of them out there and they're still sitting at LCS's around here in the free stacks Oh, They weigh a pound each? My mistake. Tons it is.... Carry on sniping & being miserable to each other....

I know hot off of SDCC, these were highly touted, then suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons, where once though to be scarce, now overprinted, and a lot of customers grabbed stacks to horde and hold, so I'd probably shy away from these if buying on speculation more than passion, since I'd guess there's quite a bit of 'em out there, probably more supply than demand, with lots of folks waiting in the wings to offer 'em up on eBay, and because they're free, the cost of goods / cost basis is $0, and they can afford to sell 'em at $0.99 or whatever and garner pure profit. suddenly comic shops were shipped these by the tons Okee dokee... ( ACTUALLY the top 1,000 Diamond accounts were shipped fifty ea...) I gave them away. This weekend in NY Gerard gave away a "Doom Patrol song" to the 300 fans that attended his panel. They were cassettes. He's becoming the "killer promo guy' fast. Not saying the b&w promo will put your kids through college or pay for your prescription.... Easy $10 soon though. Ask anybody set up in NYCC how his stuff sold there. Gangbusters.

Or it's STILL an advertising vehicle for the shop that commissioned it... Everything isn't about flipping moderns.

Also, this is hilariously hyperbolic and pretty ridiculous. Again, shop owners...chime in here. Wednesday, I see all ages buying from their pulls to read. Only time the spec people come out are for hyped to flip that same day. Otherwise, people are buying to read and CGC still represents a tiny fraction of the people buying, reading and collecting comics. Do you think all those variant issues being printed are for readers? How many variant copies are being printed versus regular copies? Tons when you consider Loot Crate, store exclusives, etc. I'm not convinced this is a small fraction of the market, otherwise the publishers wouldn't be wasting their money on it. While I understand what you are saying here, but Loot Crate alone is a bait and switch. Think about the business model there. Store variants rely on enough suckers to buy them thinking they will appreciate or you can flip them fast enough for a profit. The stores make a killing on the book after that they don't care if the book appreciates or not.(Although some hold some books and hope they do.) Nobody talks about the books they don't sell or cant sell. They only talk about the % of books that they do sell. Inventory management is a skill many never learn. Just look at ebay any day for slabs and piles of comics dumped on their from speculators who lost just dumped them somewhere else. In the end a lot of talk here is just talk. There are a few guys that are just plain killing it and those are the ones you want to pay attention too. Get to know them. The other 85% just ignore. Store variants rely on enough suckers to buy them thinking they will appreciate Or, well... Customers that shop in that store buy them, because... well... They shop there. No speculatory motivations. Just a purchase. ( and they advertise the store )

No need to place an order.....

talking about the state of comics right now Exactly. It's just RockMyAmadeus being RockMyAmadeus. You're welcome. Take care of yourself. Eat good quality food & exercise. I want you to be around if the comic book market ever does eventually collapse.

talking about the state of comics right now Exactly. It's just RockMyAmadeus being RockMyAmadeus.

I love this, but you are speaking to wrong audience. The current market isn't reading comics anymore. Someone will come in and tell me they are, but they aren't a large majority anymore and I would argue its a thin majority in this market at best. This board is perfect example now. Until the growing minority bleeds out of the hobby again its not going to return to some sort of balance. I think that's a vague as I can make it without pointing fingers directly. The current market isn't reading comics anymore. Snicker... Okee Dokee. Saturday in the shop tpb's & hc's were 60% of our monster day. Omega Men tpb got such a BJ from the internet this week it caused a stampede as most shops didn't order... CGC fellows are a cult sect, NOT representative of the average LCS clientele. Comics are main street America right now. Civilians are interested, Lapsed fans are returning, & Wednesday Warriors have a ton of choices.

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