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1939 NEWSSTAND PIC TIME MACHINE JOURNEY INTO THE PAST
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Here is a newstand photo I found that has Mickey Mouse Magazine #1 in it.

 

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Anyone know why this image isn't showing up? Is there a bug in the board software that won't take a URL this long?

 

Don't know either but here it is -

 

Thanks Scrooge. I just noticed there is another Mickey Mouse Magazine #1 on the left edge that I didn't notice before.

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...... I have to say that the line of comics hanging above Bailey's head are certainly very suspect. The degree of clarity and dynamic range do not match the rest of the image.

JEEZ.....half emtpy right ?

 

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It's real. Go ahead and accept the fact the Bailey picture is possibly one of the greatest newsstand images of Golden Age that any of us have ever seen.

 

 

 

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COOL picture of the newsstand with the Mickey Mouse mag Darren.

 

I fooled around with it a bit and filled in the TIME MAGAZINE , cover dated JULY 8, 1935, featuring Joseph A. Lyons, who was the premiere of the commonwealth of Australia

 

and the Saturday Evening Post from July 13, 1935 featuring a Norman Rockwell painted cover titled "Exhilaration"

 

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they dont look wrong to me. They are right in the sweet spot in this snapshot: right in the center of the focal range (accounting for their sharpness) and lighting (not out on the street nor way in the dark back of the store). Could this be faked? sure. The only hard part is skewing the new cover scans onto curved surfaces, the rest is easy. But, why? Especially considering the source is from the family archives and is NOT about comics, just dads neat little store.

 

I still wonder why there's nothing inside of Master and Blue Beetle Comics? Are their interior margins that incredibly wide that the panels remain hidden?

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I suspect the lighting reflecting off the newsprint has something to do with the whiteness of the inside pages.

Anyway, it's obviously a newsstand and the images are obviously real.

 

Moving right along.....

 

Here is a picture of the inside of a store with a FULL SPINNER rack of comics, taken in 1959...unfortunately I'm not able to recognize any of them...still, it's kind of cool.

 

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Originally Posted By: Mackenzie999

Originally Posted By: mr.schomburg

 

 

I know I'm a bit late for the pile-on, but as a 20-year graphic arts professional who has taught Photoshop to other professionals, I have to say that the line of comics hanging above Bailey's head are certainly very suspect. The degree of clarity and dynamic range do not match the rest of the image.

 

Why would anyone do this? Fantasy gratification. You see it a lot with fake celebrity porn.

 

I've actually had dreams of exactly this situation, going back in time with a bunch of mercury dimes and hitting the newstands. Seeing these photos certainly scratches that itch in a pleasurable way.

 

Here's a simple Photoshop tip for anyone trying to decipher muddy or dark images, for example trying to ID comics that are mostly in shadow:

 

Image/Adjust/Levels/drag the midrange slider to the left until the image becomes readable.

 

This will likely destroy the appearance of the image in many ways, but will also potentially reveal some surprising detail. The data has to be there in the first place, a block of absolute 100% black will never gain new detail, but very often things *look* to be 100% black but are not and contain useful detail that needs to be enhanced to become visible.

 

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always good to hear from a professional... I tried levels but dont see anything out of the ordinary. Did you see something here or just suggesting the possibility?

 

 

After looking this photo over for a while now. I find one thing strange about the comics hanging by clothpins. Everything ine the room has a glare for either outside light or a flash. I suspect flash. But the comics hanging don't show any sign of a flash glare or reflection from outside light. The photo has the most clearest sharpmest I've seen in a old photo. I can litterly unlarge and read the labels on the cigar boxes. A amazing photo. Never seen such clarity in an old photo like this before. but the hanging comics sure are suspect. I down know why anyone would spend time to do it though.

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This guy is reading ADVENTURE BOOK OF NATURE #1 a MARK TRAIL comic.

 

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Tom & Jerry Comics #170 down in the rack. TomJerryComics170.jpg[/img]

 

and below Tom & Jerry is WALT DISNEY'S COMICS & STORIES #216

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Good eye and detective work Mister Comics. And where's the colorized version and list on that photo of the man reading the adventures book, that'd be a good one

 

As an aside, half full or half empty I'm still skeptical on the large photo. The comics do seem overly crisp but the other thing is the titles are all highly collectible in todays world. No cartoony books or unpopular titles - all are money books. It just seems too convenient. I just don't think its a slam dunk either way. And as far as the why. Look how easy its been to post up those colorized versions, it'd be just as easy to doctor a B&W photo with half a days work.

 

Ed

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Good eye and detective work Mister Comics. And where's the colorized version and list on that photo of the man reading the adventures book, that'd be a good one

 

As an aside, half full or half empty I'm still skeptical on the large photo. The comics do seem overly crisp but the other thing is the titles are all highly collectible in todays world. No cartoony books or unpopular titles - all are money books. It just seems too convenient. I just don't think its a slam dunk either way. And as far as the why. Look how easy its been to post up those colorized versions, it'd be just as easy to doctor a B&W photo with half a days work.

 

Ed

 

Ed,

 

It wouldn't even take half a days work to do something like that. Anyone with a decent working knowledge of Photoshop and a couple filters could do that in a half an hour. I do that kind of stuff all day at my job.

 

I agree that it is suspect for several of the same reasons you listed. Especially with regard to the fact that it is all super-hero stuff. I thought the cartoony/funny animal books were much more popular in those days, so from a sales standpoint it wouldn't make sense to leave your most popular comics off of the most visible spot in your shop. Also, would those comics all have come out at the same time? I think they span about a 3 - 4 month release period (March - June 1941). With those things said, I will admit that being a newbie to GA, my knowledge would be the equivalent to an IQ of about 10 (and that's being generous).

 

With regard to the image itself, the overall tonal quality of the comics on the line compared to the rest of the image is clearly different. The greys in most of the image are warmer and the greys in the comic images are cooler. The sharpness is also different. When you look at the image at the pixel level you can see a clear difference between the edges of the comics and most everything else in the image. Mister Comics pointed out several things as well with regard to how the light is being reflected. You would assume that if the light hitting the comics were that bright compared to the rest of the image, the reflection in the gentleman's glasses would be much brighter. Instead, the reflection really isn't that significant. Also, the clothesline itself has a shadow cast over it which would suggest that at that spot in the shop, there was some sort of shadow and therefore the light was not as bright as the covers of the comics would indicate.

 

There are many other things that make this image suspect with regard to excess noise around the edges of the comics and so on... but it's hard to tell from a jpeg, because once you compress the image, it does leave artifacts/noise everywhere.

 

Why would someone do this? For the same reason we are looking at the image. It's fun! It's fun to look at something like this and think, "wouldn't it be great to be able to go back in time and have the opportunity to buy all those great books right off that clothesline."

 

I definitely would not ascribe any deceitful or malicious intent. I just think someone thought it would be neat if all the coolest comics from that time frame in 1941 were all lined up there on the clothesline instead of what was probably there originally.

 

My opinion is that a couple of those books were probably on the line in the original image and then a few more were added to make the fantasy complete.

 

It is just my opinion and it is very difficult to be certain. Ultimately, I don't think it matters all that much, because it is still fun to look at the photo and dream! :cloud9:

 

2c

 

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In my never ending quest to find more vintage newsstand pics...I found this one....too bad no comics...oh well, still cool I think...

 

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BUT WAIT....upon further searching I turned up the same newsstand with COMICS visible.

 

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HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.....apparently these pictures were taken as some sort of promotional devise or something. I say that because we have the very same magazines from the first two pictures...this time coupled with close to 40 comic books. Check it out and enjoy.

 

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Here is something you don't see everyday....a COMIC BOOK store from 1960, kind of. They advertised comics on their marquee anyway....cool.

 

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There was a place like this in Philly on Walnut Street, I think it was called Readmor's. I remember walking in there and seeing piles of high grade TALES OF SUSPENSE comics from the sixties, and lots of Mad and other humor mags.

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I wonder why the background was draped?

 

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Right side starting with the top going down. Captain Marvel Adventure #79, Batman #43, and Joe Palooka #15.

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Below Jow Palooka is PICTURE STORIES FROM THE BIBLE #2. Sorry no picture.

 

To the left of Batman #43 is WOW #61

 

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Archie Comics #29 down below that.

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Below Archie is The Gumps #5

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Back at top left is All American Comics #91

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Bottom Right is International Comics #5

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Only one that I can not figure out. Maybe someone else can figure out what it is.

 

 

 

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The only one I can figure out is at the lower right corner. Thats a John Wayne #8.

 

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Gene Autry #48

 

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Red Ryder #51 (next to the John Wayne)

 

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Ghost Rider #3 (7th comic book from the right)

 

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