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Call him Jay. All the hookers do.

She's a nice lady.

 

Why are you writing this at 2:30 in the morning? :baiting:

Naked Karaoke

 

Any Tiffany? :wishluck:

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Call him Jay. All the hookers do.

She's a nice lady.

 

Why are you writing this at 2:30 in the morning? :baiting:

Naked Karaoke

 

Any Tiffany? :wishluck:

 

All Kenny G

 

Well that explains the inability to sleep.

 

Your dreams would otherwise be phallic.

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Call him Jay. All the hookers do.

She's a nice lady.

 

Why are you writing this at 2:30 in the morning? :baiting:

Naked Karaoke

 

Any Tiffany? :wishluck:

 

All Kenny G

 

Well that explains the inability to sleep.

 

Your dreams would otherwise be phallic.

 

Phallic dreams -- a touchy subject.

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Call him Jay. All the hookers do.

She's a nice lady.

 

Why are you writing this at 2:30 in the morning? :baiting:

Naked Karaoke

 

Any Tiffany? :wishluck:

 

All Kenny G

 

Well that explains the inability to sleep.

 

Your dreams would otherwise be phallic.

 

Phallic dreams -- a touchy subject.

 

Sometimes a sticky subject.

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Call him Jay. All the hookers do.

She's a nice lady.

 

Why are you writing this at 2:30 in the morning? :baiting:

Naked Karaoke

 

Any Tiffany? :wishluck:

 

All Kenny G

 

Well that explains the inability to sleep.

 

Your dreams would otherwise be phallic.

 

Phallic dreams -- a touchy subject.

 

Sometimes a sticky subject.

 

Both.

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Nearly halfway through Messiah. It's a much shorter novel than Dune.

 

Paul's the most petulant mass-murdering man-god evah.

 

I wish the conspiracy would remove him & give it all back to Irulan.

 

If I didn't like him in the first book (& I didn't -- what was there to like?), then I wish him dead in this one.

 

Just sayin.

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Paul is awesome.

 

He spends the first book becoming a god and the second undermining himself for all the right reasons.

 

It's theocratic politics writ large on a multiple galaxy stage.

 

Is there anything more timely than that?

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His post-jihad self-doubt in the first 40% of Messiah is, well, post-jihad.

 

Is there anything more untimely than that?

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His post-jihad self-doubt in the first 40% of Messiah is, well, post-jihad.

 

Is there anything more untimely than that?

 

It's very unIslamic, but still timely (timeless, even more so!) to me.

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The royal incest stuff is very proto-GRRM.

 

 

This is a pecadillo I do not share. I see it as yet another historical touchstone of humanity and don't read anything further into it.

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I do enjoy the Paul, Chani, Irulan anti-love triangle. With Alia in the mix, this guy's a big pimpin bedouin.

 

I look forward to your continuing comments on this. Of course, you have to read all seven to have consummation.

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I do enjoy the Paul, Chani, Irulan anti-love triangle. With Alia in the mix, this guy's a big pimpin bedouin.

 

You're 30K post is coming up next.

 

Please don't make it anti-Dune. :grin:

 

A Dune quad!

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I think it a mistake to see the Fremen in a one to one ratio as Arabic Muslims.

 

Clearly, Herbert was enamored with bedouin culture, a specific narrow tribal version of it, and clearly it helped feed his understanding of human religions (versus human faith. Ha!) but he's also a great alchemist chef and is picking and choosing what he likes and combining it in new and unique ways.

 

Part of the joy of reading the books for me is the same as reading Tolkein. Here is a master of language and history, taking very ancient concepts, ideas and words and flinging them into a very far flung future in logical ways and stating how humans are likely to act in each of these areas.

 

He was a futurist long before Stephenson and Gibson.

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