THe Million $ barrier in collectibles- how does comic hobby compare to others?

[GreatEscape]

 

The Honus Wagner baseball card story:

 

"The Gretzky T206 Wagner was first sold by Alan Ray to a baseball memorabilia collector named Bill Mastro, who sold the card two years later to Jim Copeland for nearly four times the price he had originally paid. Copeland's sizable transaction revitalized interest in the sports memorabilia collection market. In 1991, Copeland sold the card to ice hockey figures Wayne Gretzky and Bruce McNall for $451,000. Gretzky resold the card four years later to Wal-Mart and Treat Entertainment for $500,000, for use as the top prize in a promotional contest. The next year, a Florida postal worker won the card and auctioned it at Christie's for $640,000 to collector Michael Gidwitz. In 2000, the card was sold in an auction on eBay to Brian Seigel for $1.27 million. In February 2007, Seigel sold the card to an anonymous collector for $2.35 million. Less than six months later, the card was sold to a California collector for $2.8 million. These transactions have made the Wagner card the most valuable baseball card in history."

[GreatEscape]

 

In contrast, we have Todd McFarlane's $3 million Home Run ball story:

 

"Back in 1998, It seemed crazy when Todd McFarlane — a brilliant but eccentric comic-book artist turned action-figure mogul — paid $3 million for the ball Mark McGwire hit for his then record-breaking 70th home run. It seemed even crazier when he paid about $500,000 for Barry Bonds's record-breaking 73rd home run ball in 2003."

 

I wonder how much the Mark McGwire 70th home run ball is worth today?

[comicparadox]

Now, in 2010, it remains crazy.

[The Less Blob]

so basically Todd took all the money he made selling 9 million copies of Spawn 1 and stuck it into two baseballs.

[october]

So a Dracula or Frankenstein or Kink Kong will have to go back on the market for a poster to crack a million bucks.

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one would think that any poster for a movie that might drive that kind of bidding war would have been kept in enough quantity to avoid it being a million dollar poster, other than maybe Metropolis, which I think got its cult following after the fact? Maybe Nosferatu or whatever it was called. One would think people kept these as keepsakes if they worked on the movie or the poster and what not or worked at a movie theatre and got to keep the posters when they came down even if people didn't think of them as 'collectible". heck, there was always colelcting of autographs that could be put on the poster.

 

Several "big" movie posters, or versions of them, exist in VERY small quantities...and by small I mean 1-5 copies.

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&LotIdNo=2004

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=660&LotIdNo=40001

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&LotIdNo=1023

 

3 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=665&LotIdNo=32002

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&LotIdNo=20004

 

5 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=601&LotIdNo=1057

 

[paperheart]

So a Dracula or Frankenstein or Kink Kong will have to go back on the market for a poster to crack a million bucks.

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one would think that any poster for a movie that might drive that kind of bidding war would have been kept in enough quantity to avoid it being a million dollar poster, other than maybe Metropolis, which I think got its cult following after the fact? Maybe Nosferatu or whatever it was called. One would think people kept these as keepsakes if they worked on the movie or the poster and what not or worked at a movie theatre and got to keep the posters when they came down even if people didn't think of them as 'collectible". heck, there was always colelcting of autographs that could be put on the poster.

 

Several "big" movie posters, or versions of them, exist in VERY small quantities...and by small I mean 1-5 copies.

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&LotIdNo=2004

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=660&LotIdNo=40001

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&LotIdNo=1023

 

3 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=665&LotIdNo=32002

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&LotIdNo=20004

 

 

 

fischler has a Frankenstein 6 sheet that he said was one of maybe two that were known to exist. this was many years ago and don't know if that's still the case. he believed it was the most valuable movie poster. whether it is or not, it was cool

[paperheart]

In contrast, we have Todd McFarlane's $3 million Home Run ball story:

 

"Back in 1998, It seemed crazy when Todd McFarlane — a brilliant but eccentric comic-book artist turned action-figure mogul — paid $3 million for the ball Mark McGwire hit for his then record-breaking 70th home run. It seemed even crazier when he paid about $500,000 for Barry Bonds's record-breaking 73rd home run ball in 2003."

 

I wonder how much the Mark McGwire 70th home run ball is worth today?

 

tree fifty

[ashrael]

so basically Todd took all the money he made selling 9 million copies of Spawn 1 and stuck it into two baseballs.

 

Speaking of which, the voices on the radio said it was Todd's birthday today

[nearmint]

I love Coke Zero

 

I love Cherry Coke Zero.

[Bronty]

So a Dracula or Frankenstein or Kink Kong will have to go back on the market for a poster to crack a million bucks.

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one would think that any poster for a movie that might drive that kind of bidding war would have been kept in enough quantity to avoid it being a million dollar poster, other than maybe Metropolis, which I think got its cult following after the fact? Maybe Nosferatu or whatever it was called. One would think people kept these as keepsakes if they worked on the movie or the poster and what not or worked at a movie theatre and got to keep the posters when they came down even if people didn't think of them as 'collectible". heck, there was always colelcting of autographs that could be put on the poster.

 

Several "big" movie posters, or versions of them, exist in VERY small quantities...and by small I mean 1-5 copies.

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&LotIdNo=2004

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=660&LotIdNo=40001

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&LotIdNo=1023

 

3 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=665&LotIdNo=32002

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&LotIdNo=20004

 

5 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=601&LotIdNo=1057

 

yeah, so I hear... given that and all the hollywood money that must appreciate the old films I don't know how something like that dracula isn't worth 7 figures. If anything they are probably too rare for their own good. Can't set benchmarks as easily when it doesn't trade often.

[tonytiger]

This thread does make me wonder which collectables are in the Million Club. Sports Cards, Art, Coins.......what else.

 

Stamps - exceeding $2 million

 

Books - Bibles in excess of $25 million; "Birds of America" $8.8 million

 

Classic cars - $10 million+

 

Surprisingly, movie posters have yet to top $1 million. (With all the Hollywood mucky mucks, I'm shocked no one has gotten in a match over a Metropolis or Mummy poster to drive up a ridiculous price.)

 

 

Fishler had told me that he turned down 900,000 for his Frankenstein six sheet poster. And that was 3 years ago.

 

[The Less Blob]

So a Dracula or Frankenstein or Kink Kong will have to go back on the market for a poster to crack a million bucks.

-------

 

one would think that any poster for a movie that might drive that kind of bidding war would have been kept in enough quantity to avoid it being a million dollar poster, other than maybe Metropolis, which I think got its cult following after the fact? Maybe Nosferatu or whatever it was called. One would think people kept these as keepsakes if they worked on the movie or the poster and what not or worked at a movie theatre and got to keep the posters when they came down even if people didn't think of them as 'collectible". heck, there was always colelcting of autographs that could be put on the poster.

 

Several "big" movie posters, or versions of them, exist in VERY small quantities...and by small I mean 1-5 copies.

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&LotIdNo=2004

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=660&LotIdNo=40001

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&LotIdNo=1023

 

3 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=665&LotIdNo=32002

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&LotIdNo=20004

 

5 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=601&LotIdNo=1057

 

it's nuts, those things are so cool, I can't imagine why more people wouldn't have kept them as art objects and what not. it's not like action 1, which is crudely drawn and a "kid's" thing.

[MisterX]

I'm pretty sure that Dracula poster belonged at one time to Nicholas Cage, who sold off a bunch of interesting posters last year to pay back some of his massive debts.

 

The Geppi Museum has some fantastic movie posters on display.

 

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

There's a Metropolis poster up for sale at Heritage right now...

 

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7019&Lot_No=85446&type=around-coinnews-tem031310

 

 

[Offbeat Archives]

There's a Metropolis poster up for sale at Heritage right now...

 

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7019&Lot_No=85446&type=around-coinnews-tem031310

 

 

It states that it is from Kirk Hammett's collection. I wonder if he will be unloading any of his comics also.

[october]

So a Dracula or Frankenstein or Kink Kong will have to go back on the market for a poster to crack a million bucks.

-------

 

one would think that any poster for a movie that might drive that kind of bidding war would have been kept in enough quantity to avoid it being a million dollar poster, other than maybe Metropolis, which I think got its cult following after the fact? Maybe Nosferatu or whatever it was called. One would think people kept these as keepsakes if they worked on the movie or the poster and what not or worked at a movie theatre and got to keep the posters when they came down even if people didn't think of them as 'collectible". heck, there was always colelcting of autographs that could be put on the poster.

 

Several "big" movie posters, or versions of them, exist in VERY small quantities...and by small I mean 1-5 copies.

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7003&LotIdNo=2004

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=660&LotIdNo=40001

 

4 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&LotIdNo=1023

 

3 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=665&LotIdNo=32002

 

1 copy: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&LotIdNo=20004

 

5 copies: http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=601&LotIdNo=1057

 

it's nuts, those things are so cool, I can't imagine why more people wouldn't have kept them as art objects and what not. it's not like action 1, which is crudely drawn and a "kid's" thing.

 

There were a lot less made than Action 1, and they were more expensive to produce, but still, you would think that more would have been kept. Paper drives? Closure of most old movie houses? The fact that they were seen as worthless promotional items?

 

I don't understand why some top-tier posters haven't cracked a million. The graphics and colors are just beautiful, they were well made, they are old, the characters/films/actors are instantly recognizable and crossover between literature and film, they are rare, and they can be displayed. On top of all that, they should appeal to a segment of the population with massive amounts of disposable income. I have only a marginal interest in movie posters, but several of those posters are every bit as cool to me as an Action 1.

[tth2]

fischler has a Frankenstein 6 sheet that he said was one of maybe two that were known to exist. this was many years ago and don't know if that's still the case. he believed it was the most valuable movie poster.

Fisher believes that any [fill in the blank] that he owns is the most valuable [fill in the blank].

 

In the case of the Frankenstein poster you're talking about, I think that was the one found in an old suitcase or something like that, and probably IS the most valuable movie poster.

[paperheart]

fischler has a Frankenstein 6 sheet that he said was one of maybe two that were known to exist. this was many years ago and don't know if that's still the case. he believed it was the most valuable movie poster.

Fisher believes that any [fill in the blank] that he owns is the most valuable [fill in the blank].

 

In the case of the Frankenstein poster you're talking about, I think that was the one found in an old suitcase or something like that, and probably IS the most valuable movie poster.

 

his Marlon Brando On the Waterfront Oscar may also fall into that category

[MutantKeys]

Timepieces have sold for millions plenty of times

[KolmarAvenue]

Pez: a quick google search shows the most valuable to be a 1982 worlds fair knoxville tn at $32K.

 

Movie posters: i always hear that the classic universal monsters are the ones to watch for but have never collected posters at all. I'm assuming the frankenstein would fit into that category. From wikipedia

 

The record price for a poster was set on November 15, 2005 when US$690,000 was paid for a poster of Fritz Lang's 1927 film Metropolis from the Reel Poster Gallery in London.[1] The 1931 Frankenstein 6-sheet poster, of which only 1 copy is known to exist, is considered to be the most valuable film poster in the world.[citation needed]