Ozonetv Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/28/2019 at 4:19 PM, Yorick said: It looks like water/ink transfer. When damp paper from another source is placed against the comic, and when the two documents are pulled apart, the ink on the comic lifted away. It will affect inks differently (which may be why it is so prevalent with the dark colors). Thanks! Turns out that this is indeed (as you said) a production error, but since its so bad the book only was able to get a 4.0, even the the rest of the book is pretty flawless. So the takeaway - in some cases, production errors do count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoomanfoo Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) What about printing errors like pertaining to inks or foils? I think this is becoming more significant with the modern market gaining popularity Edited January 15, 2020 by Shoomanfoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Pichotta Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just purchased a comic, and on the inside first page has a piece of the ink missing. The seller stated that a manufacturers error won't effect the grade of the comic. I just want to make sure before I send it in to be graded. Sorry they're not the clearest, but hope you get the idea of the "error". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 11:16 AM, Mr. Pichotta said: Just purchased a comic, and on the inside first page has a piece of the ink missing. The seller stated that a manufacturers error won't effect the grade of the comic. I just want to make sure before I send it in to be graded. Sorry they're not the clearest, but hope you get the idea of the "error". Plates Missing image on the magenta and yellow plates. It's not a blanket smash cause both the red and yellow colors are missing in the same spot. it has to be something going on in the plate room, you'd have to check pre production and see if it's on the go-bys. It's not press related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 11:16 AM, Mr. Pichotta said: Just purchased a comic, and on the inside first page has a piece of the ink missing. The seller stated that a manufacturers error won't effect the grade of the comic. I just want to make sure before I send it in to be graded. Sorry they're not the clearest, but hope you get the idea of the "error". Flaws on the interior generally aren't viewed as harshly as flaws on the exterior, especially if the defect is common. Something like this is pretty insignificant, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus123 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Untrimmed pages? I posted this on another forum, hope it's okay to post here too. Have a comic with three pages where the bottom corner was not trimmed and there is extra on side and bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Yup, untrimmed pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Atticus123 said: Untrimmed pages? I posted this on another forum, hope it's okay to post here too. Have a comic with three pages where the bottom corner was not trimmed and there is extra on side and bottom. Pretty common, actually. It would likely get you a note on the label... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus123 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Curious how it would affect value? Would it get a lesser CGC grade? Be less desirable to a collector? Or some might want because it's a 'freak' :-) Edited April 3, 2020 by Atticus123 clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Atticus123 said: Untrimmed pages? I posted this on another forum, hope it's okay to post here too. Have a comic with three pages where the bottom corner was not trimmed and there is extra on side and bottom. It's not that they were not trimmed, just that the corner of the paper sheet was folded in while it was being trimmed. Did it affect the inking at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus123 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) No, not that I see. Everything else is perfect. Really clean book. Edited April 4, 2020 by Atticus123 added pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urion Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Hello everyone. This is my first time posting. I am looking at a book right now that I am thinking about buying. It has a few flaws that might be manufacturing defects and I was wondering if you could help me. Do you think this line of dots that follow the advertisement's black border are a printing error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 8:07 AM, Urion said: Hello everyone. This is my first time posting. I am looking at a book right now that I am thinking about buying. It has a few flaws that might be manufacturing defects and I was wondering if you could help me. Do you think this line of dots that follow the advertisement's black border are a printing error? Could be. Might also just be something it was laying on. If it's an easy issue to acquire, go find another copy. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urion Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Unfortunately its not too easy to find raw. This is the only ungraded copy I have seen so far. But it is a bit expensive so I don't know if I want it if it is less than a 9.0. If it was a 9.0+ it would be a good deal. If it turns out to be an 8.5 or less it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Urion said: Unfortunately its not too easy to find raw. This is the only ungraded copy I have seen so far. But it is a bit expensive so I don't know if I want it if it is less than a 9.0. If it was a 9.0+ it would be a good deal. If it turns out to be an 8.5 or less it isn't. I certainly know how that is. Sometimes we have to make due with whatever is available and hope that there'll be an upgrade down the road... Make an offer of what you feel is fair to the owner. Urion and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urion Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) So, I just got a group of 5 raw comics in the mail today that I had high hopes for being 9.8s. Unfortunately two will definitely not be. Two are, I think, borderline and one, to me, is a 9.8. I am not too disappointed since the seller never claimed a grade for them. He sent me pictures when I asked and I feel like it was worth it even if one issue comes back a 9.8. If three do it will be more than worth it. Of the two that are borderline one has what looks like damage from distribution strapping. I have heard that at 9.8 CGC still allows this kind of defect. Here is a picture. What do you guys think? Is this something that CGC will let go as production related flaws? Everything else about the comic is mint. Edited April 27, 2020 by Urion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 9:43 PM, Atticus123 said: No, not that I see. Everything else is perfect. Really clean book. CGC has also been known to not encapsulate certain books like this due to problems fitting it into the holder... Atticus123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Urion said: What do you guys think? Is this something that CGC will let go as production related flaws? Everything else about the comic is mint. I can't see a 9.8 on this one... Urion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Urion unfortunately, the "handling" of the book after it's off the production line doesn't count as a "production defect". It may certainly be a part of distribution, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urion Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) I've seen multiple cases of distributor damage to books where it was not counted off. The most obvious and frequently occurring is where the top of the comic will be painted by distributors and comic book dealers. Stamps on books are also ignored and all these things occur after production. Edited April 28, 2020 by Urion The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...