Is this a D copy?

[8milemax]

I bought this book of metro 2 months ago and I was wondering is this a D copy?

 

thanks

 

[c-mack]

looks like a D to me..

[G.A.tor]

Probably not. The crippen D copies have a code written inside the splash page that determines (generally) if it is from crippen. The d on the cover is not a general indicator

[Larryw7]

I bought this book of metro 2 months ago and I was wondering is this a D copy?

 

thanks

 

 

I don't know if it's a D copy, but it's a really nice book.

[VintageComics]

Probably not. The crippen D copies have a code written inside the splash page that determines (generally) if it is from crippen. The d on the cover is not a general indicator

 

Rick, I thought I'd seen D copies with a D on the cover as well?

 

GA forum would be the best place for this question.

 

West, are you reading?

 

[Dr Chaos]

Is this a DD comic?

 

[sufunk]

Probably not. The crippen D copies have a code written inside the splash page that determines (generally) if it is from crippen. The d on the cover is not a general indicator

 

Rick, I thought I'd seen D copies with a D on the cover as well?

 

GA forum would be the best place for this question.

 

West, are you reading?

 

I'm no GA expert by far but it seems like for whatever reason there is a LOT of books with a "D" or "L" on the cover that arent Crippen or Larson copies

[KingOfRulers]

Probably not. The crippen D copies have a code written inside the splash page that determines (generally) if it is from crippen. The d on the cover is not a general indicator

 

Rick, I thought I'd seen D copies with a D on the cover as well?

 

GA forum would be the best place for this question.

 

West, are you reading?

 

Some of them do have a "D" on the cover, but a lot of them do not.

[Timely]

Probably not. The crippen D copies have a code written inside the splash page that determines (generally) if it is from crippen. The d on the cover is not a general indicator

 

Rick, I thought I'd seen D copies with a D on the cover as well?

 

GA forum would be the best place for this question.

 

West, are you reading?

 

This book sold in Heritage in 2002.

 

Many of the DC's from the "D" collection have a "D" on the cover. That's one of the main reasons the books were originally called "D" Copies. Other publishers do have other letters on the cover. Timely's, for example, usually have an "A" on the cover, fiction House has a "W". Many "D" copies have no writing on the cover at all.

 

All "D" copies have writing on the top of the 1st page in pencil if they are from before 1948. Some dealers did erase that coding in the 90's, but 99% of them should have it if they are from the "D" collection.

 

This copy looks like it could be the "D" Copy based on what I see, but it needs to be cracked out to be 100% sure.

 

Hope that helps!

[VintageComics]

 

There you have it.

 

Another reason why books should be deslabbed.

 

Bam! Thanks, West!

 

 

[youfoundjake]

Silly question, but why not a green label if its not a D copy?

[VintageComics]

Silly question, but why not a green label if its not a D copy?

 

I think writing on a cover will significantly reduce the grade and give the comic a possibility of going into a green label only of the writing is excessive (ie. very distracting from the cover).

 

In this case, if CGC thinks it's a distributor or newsstand marking it's factored into the grade but not as much is taken off for it as if it were a large signature across the cover.

 

The D copies weren't "discovered" and labelled as a ped until the mid 2000's (the earliest issues were stolen from the owners house and it wasn't until after the owner passed away that the rest of the collection surfaced) so if this copy was one of the early copies that made their way out of the collection before the "big discovery" then it was slabbed without the D copy pedigree even existing at the time and was likely considered a newsstand marking.

 

 

[Primetime]

Silly question, but why not a green label if its not a D copy?

 

I think writing on a cover will significantly reduce the grade and give the comic a possibility of going into a green label only of the writing is excessive (ie. very distracting from the cover).

 

In this case, if CGC thinks it's a distributor or newsstand marking it's factored into the grade but not as much is taken off for it as if it were a large signature across the cover.

 

The D copies weren't "discovered" and labelled as a ped until the mid 2000's (the earliest issues were stolen from the owners house and it wasn't until after the owner passed away that the rest of the collection surfaced) so if this copy was one of the early copies that made their way out of the collection before the "big discovery" then it was slabbed without the D copy pedigree even existing at the time and was likely considered a newsstand marking.

 

I traded for a D copy Cap 34 SDCC 1997 from John Verzyl. The book had a serial number written on the top edge of the splash page. It was a 9.0 copy. Back then it was not known as a pedigree yet and so I has no idea when i sold it.

[sborock]

Silly question, but why not a green label if its not a D copy?

 

I think writing on a cover will significantly reduce the grade and give the comic a possibility of going into a green label only of the writing is excessive (ie. very distracting from the cover).

 

In this case, if CGC thinks it's a distributor or newsstand marking it's factored into the grade but not as much is taken off for it as if it were a large signature across the cover.

 

The D copies weren't "discovered" and labelled as a ped until the mid 2000's (the earliest issues were stolen from the owners house and it wasn't until after the owner passed away that the rest of the collection surfaced) so if this copy was one of the early copies that made their way out of the collection before the "big discovery" then it was slabbed without the D copy pedigree even existing at the time and was likely considered a newsstand marking.

 

 

Yep, that would have been given a green label.

 

As to the pedigree designation, I seriously doubt that this is a Crippen copy and, sorry to say Roy, we were putting "D" copy designation on the label since the inception of CGC.

 

When CGC opened, we knew the "D" copies quite well (Having owned many myself) and would look for the interior codes on the top of the 1st page. That's why they were designated "D" copy, not Crippen, as we had no clue at the time of the name of the family that was slowly leaking these books onto the market. My friends and I, who were collecting GA D.C. books pre-CGC, were just calling them "D" copies, never thought we were naming a pedigree.

 

As to this book, IMHO, the D on the cover is a bit different from what I have seen and does not look like it came from the Crippen collection.

[VintageComics]

(thumbs u

[Timely]

I bought this book of metro 2 months ago and I was wondering is this a D copy?

 

thanks

 

 

I am not a handwriting expert, but the "D" on your book has similar characteristics to the one below. I've seen other "D" books where the "D" is not cursive. I believe there may have been more than 1 person coding the outside cover. Again, I am not saying yours is a "D" Copy, but I do think it has a shot.

 

[8milemax]

Wow alot of information on this, looks like I wont send it to CGC to see if its a D copy Thanks for the help everyone

[Mephisto]

Silly question, but why not a green label if its not a D copy?

 

I think writing on a cover will significantly reduce the grade and give the comic a possibility of going into a green label only of the writing is excessive (ie. very distracting from the cover).

 

In this case, if CGC thinks it's a distributor or newsstand marking it's factored into the grade but not as much is taken off for it as if it were a large signature across the cover.

 

The D copies weren't "discovered" and labelled as a ped until the mid 2000's (the earliest issues were stolen from the owners house and it wasn't until after the owner passed away that the rest of the collection surfaced) so if this copy was one of the early copies that made their way out of the collection before the "big discovery" then it was slabbed without the D copy pedigree even existing at the time and was likely considered a newsstand marking.

 

 

Yep, that would have been given a green label.

 

As to the pedigree designation, I seriously doubt that this is a Crippen copy and, sorry to say Roy, we were putting "D" copy designation on the label since the inception of CGC.

 

When CGC opened, we knew the "D" copies quite well (Having owned many myself) and would look for the interior codes on the top of the 1st page. That's why they were designated "D" copy, not Crippen, as we had no clue at the time of the name of the family that was slowly leaking these books onto the market.

 

Metro was sold the original leaked books. You would know this info Roy if that Pedigree book was ever released. That has to be going onto close to a decade now. I haven't checked in years and sure enough...not done.

 

Of course if this were even a D copy it was probably sold long ago by Heritage and then obtained again. If it was a D I figure Metro would've noted possible D or Crippen pedigree.

[sborock]

Wow alot of information on this, looks like I wont send it to CGC to see if its a D copy Thanks for the help everyone

 

On second thought and seeing the book West posted......

 

At the very, very begining of CGC, we were only going to list what we thought to be "Legitimate" Pedigree books on the label (Church, Pacific Coast, Larson, etc.) as we thought that collections were being named just for the hell of it (No, I won't say which pedigrees I think ar B.S.), but the out cry from both collectors and dealers was so huge, we started listing all books that the hobby thought were pedigrees.

 

So......if this book was graded in the 1st few months, it could be a Crippen.

[Mephisto]

(No, I won't say which pedigrees I think ar B.S.),.

 

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