TORONTO COMICON Presented by Fan Expo Canada™ MARCH 9-10/2013

[N/A]

This is old territory revisited, no Canadian show will ever get on-site grading.

 

Why? The border, the space needed that the show would have to provide for a grading room and encapsulation room, the equipment and supplies needed to encapsulate the books, the staff required (and all must have valid passports) --- they require lodging and meals, and on top of that there's one simple fact:

- that there has never been any indication that they would get the thousands of books needed to make it financially lucrative at any of the Toronto shows.

 

Now if a bunch of you wanted to put your money on the line and pool together thousands of submissions --- enough to make it worthwhile for them to consider it, then maybe you could make it happen. Otherwise, save up some money, get your passport, rent a room and drive or fly to an existing on-site show like Chicago or Philly. If that's not worth your while financially, then you understand in part why they aren't coming up.

 

 

In your estimation how many thousands of books? If there is a genuine desire here I can provide the lion's share of submissions.

[romanheart]

Does this site list which comic dealers will be attending the convention? I didn't see it anywhere.

[Kevin Boyd]

3? At on site pricing.

[N/A]

3? At on site pricing.

 

If 3,000 submissions is all it would take then no problem. I can't talk about the other hurdles and the are a few details I'd have to look into but as far as the volume there wouldn't be a problem.

[ignimbrite]

Can they really do that many onsite books in one weekend? I would be happy for them to simply show up and accept submissions.

[Kevin Boyd]

3? At on site pricing.

 

If 3,000 submissions is all it would take then no problem. I can't talk about the other hurdles and the are a few details I'd have to look into but as far as the volume there wouldn't be a problem.

 

I'm sure they would be enticed by an offer of 3K guaranteed books at onsite grading prices plus as I mentioned before free ballroom space for a grading room, another for an encapsulation room. Plus I'm sure they would appreciate assistance on how to deal with border crossings and paperwork to get everything (equipment, supplies) in and out of Canada, plus they'll need enough skilled staff with US passports to work the show.

[N/A]

3? At on site pricing.

 

If 3,000 submissions is all it would take then no problem. I can't talk about the other hurdles and the are a few details I'd have to look into but as far as the volume there wouldn't be a problem.

 

I'm sure they would be enticed by an offer of 3K guaranteed books at onsite grading prices plus as I mentioned before free ballroom space for a grading room, another for an encapsulation room. Plus I'm sure they would appreciate assistance on how to deal with border crossings and paperwork to get everything (equipment, supplies) in and out of Canada, plus they'll need enough skilled staff with US passports to work the show.

 

Do you have any interest in helping with that?

[CBT]

i like this discussion a lot, and that number would be crushed easily.

[thehumantorch]

3? At on site pricing.

 

If 3,000 submissions is all it would take then no problem. I can't talk about the other hurdles and the are a few details I'd have to look into but as far as the volume there wouldn't be a problem.

 

I'm sure they would be enticed by an offer of 3K guaranteed books at onsite grading prices plus as I mentioned before free ballroom space for a grading room, another for an encapsulation room. Plus I'm sure they would appreciate assistance on how to deal with border crossings and paperwork to get everything (equipment, supplies) in and out of Canada, plus they'll need enough skilled staff with US passports to work the show.

 

Kevin, CGC came to Calgary 3 or 4 years ago. They didn't come back so I imagine they didn't do well. I believe they were just accepting books and not grading at the show.

[N/A]

Correct on both counts. Same with FanExpo 3 years ago.

 

Also renting 2 board rooms at the adjacent hotel should not be an issue. I could also likely help with paperwork. I can offer no help with passports for staff.

 

[Venom]

i like this discussion a lot, and that number would be crushed easily.

 

+1 Easily

[bababooey]

3? At on site pricing.

 

If 3,000 submissions is all it would take then no problem. I can't talk about the other hurdles and the are a few details I'd have to look into but as far as the volume there wouldn't be a problem.

 

I'm sure they would be enticed by an offer of 3K guaranteed books at onsite grading prices plus as I mentioned before free ballroom space for a grading room, another for an encapsulation room. Plus I'm sure they would appreciate assistance on how to deal with border crossings and paperwork to get everything (equipment, supplies) in and out of Canada, plus they'll need enough skilled staff with US passports to work the show.

This is a breakdon of what CGC would need to consider to accomplish onsite grading.

The import of items would be broken down into two categories. All items would need to be documented on paperwork, description, origin, value etc..

 

1. Non-consumable - enscapulation machine, label creation machine, misc peripheral items that aid the process that will be returning

2. Consumable items - empty CGC cases, barex sleeves, blank labels to be printed on etc... generally anything that is anticipated to be left in Canada.

 

Item 1 goods enter on temporary import, item 2 goods would attract duty and GST; unused item 2 goods are eligible for refund of duty/tax.

 

Employees would not just need passports, they would need work permits ("sales/traders" are generally waived through immigration but workers producing goods are subject to more requirements) luckily these are fairly easy to obtain under NAFTA.

 

Usually this is easy to arrange through local Service Canada or HRSDC office - ironically this govt agency also deals with TAT's!

 

There are costs related to every one of these needs. They'd probably want to register their item 1 goods with US customs prior to exporting it to Canada.

 

[CBT]

lodging, taxes, shipping their equipment, and getting proper space to work, is EQUALLY an issue at any American convention out of their home state.

 

Having people with passports so they can get there? i hardly think that is a challenge, good grief.

 

I think the only real issues are getting a guaranteed number of submissions, and someone at the convention to arrange and sponsor it.

 

What I think a lot of the Americans are failing to realize, is that SHIPPING is the number one downside for getting books slabbed for those outside of the US. On-site grading "prices" are a deal/steal when you consider you arent paying for shipping times TWO, and insurance.

 

The same is even more so, if they ever did one in the UK. I think if you did it right/advertised properly, at a show the size of FanExpo, you would get more than TEN THOUSAND submissions effortlessly.

 

That's only 100 people bringing 100 books, or 50 bringing 200 . That doesnt even include dealers and stores bringing in boatloads. I know I would try to get 2-300 books in. 3000K will get crushed, absolutely CRUSHED, if there was on-site at fan expo.

 

 

[Wall-Crawler]

SO, is this now the official "Let's Get CGC to Fan Expo" petition?

 

[N/A]

In a word? Yes.

[Tiziano]

Here is the dealer list to date.

 

1,000,000 Comix Toronto

1,000,000 Comix Inc. MTL

All New Comics Inc

Anything & Everything Collectables

AS Creations

Baudelaine by Mady Bone

Bento Box

Big B Comics

BRM Manufacturing & Wholesale

Cactus Mafia

Catherinette Rings

Celebrity Paper

Chop Shop Goods

CMDSTORE

Comic AlleyToys

Comic Book Addiction

Comic Book Lounge

Comic Hunter

Comic Trader

Conspiracy Comics

Cosplay FTW

Denis Proulx

Derek Wang

Dragonstar

Dress Up Fine Fashions

Fashion Whore

Fastball Collectibles

Ghoti Illustrations

Girasol Collectibles Inc.

Gotham Central Comics & Collectibles

Gravity Toys

Harley Yee Rare Comics

Heavy Mental Designs

Heroes World

It Came From Japan

It's Alive!

J & A Collectibles

Kewl Collectibles

Kigurumi.ca

Knick Nack Hobby Shack

Kutting Edge

Living Dead Live Inc.

Lobby Card Invasion

Mady Bone

Major Comics

Malabar Ltd

Manish Mistry

Moonglow

Mtctoys.com

My Cartoon Heroes

Myths Legends & Heroes

Navito World

Nine Directions

Otaku Juice

Pendragon Comics!

Pixel Barrel

Premier Toys

Prodigal Books

Rare Hunters

SC Imports

Sick Kids Foundation

Silver Snail

Skintricate Tattoo Company

Sleeping Dragon Entertainment Corp.

Sparx and Mace

Star Wars Guy

StylinOnline.com

Suspect Video Ltd.

T-Shirt Dudes

The Comic Book Shoppe 2

The Labyrinth

TwyLite

Universaloutpost

Watchworks

X-S Cards Collectibles

 

[Wall-Crawler]

In a word? Yes.

 

Ok, so how would we diplomatically proceed to convince CGC to attend (if it is too late for this year, then for next year)?

[Kevin Boyd]

Someone would have to open negotiations with CGC, someone would need organize grading commitments with actual numbers so it's not "yes! let's do it" and then when the time comes the person is nowhere to be found (which will happen), and CGC and the convention would need to make some arrangements together.

 

As for the Toronto ComiCON --- very excited to be there as an exhibitor. I'll be there with my neighbours at 587A College Street --- Guerilla Printing.

 

 

[Magneto]

Wow! Love the talk on getting CGC to Canada. This would be amazing!

 

Gonna have to look at going to the show on March 9th. Looks like a good amount of dealers.

[Tiziano]

COMIC GUESTS

 

Guest of Honour

 

MIKE ZECK - Captain America, The Punisher, Marvel Secret Wars

 

 

Comic Guests

 

MIKE McKONE -Avengers Academy

 

LEE WEEKS - Daredevil, The Hulk

 

JOE JUSKO - Warlord of Mars

 

MARK TEXEIRA - Punisher:Nightmare

 

KATIE COOK - My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

 

DALE KEOWN - Marvel Cover Artist

 

MIKE DEL MUNDO - Marvel Cover Artist

 

MARCO RUDY - Swamp Thing

 

CARY NORD - XO-Manowar

 

LEONARD KIRK - X-Factor

TY TEMPLETON - Ultimate Spider Man

 

RENNE WITTERSTAETTER - Editor, Publisher, Writer

 

ROBERT BAILEY - Lucasfilm Artist

ALSO APPEARING

 

SAM AGRO, KALMAN ANDRASOFSZKY, AMY CHU, DAVID CUTLER, MARCO D'ALFONSO, ANTHONY DEL COL,

JOHNNY D, ROB DUMO, KRISTIN FAIRLIE, JULIE FAULKNER, BRIAN FROUD, AGNES GAROWSKA, ADAM GORHAM, FRED KENNEDY,

MARVIN LAW, ALVIN LEE, LEO LIBELMAN, NIMIT MALAVIA, CONOR McCREERY, BRAD MIDDLETON, RICHARD PACE

PAUL RIVOCHE, SARA SIMMS, ALINA URUSOV, MICHAEL WALSH, KEN WHEATON,

CRAIG YEUNG, RICHARD ZAJAC

ORGANIZATIONS

 

ERMON COUNTY,MR VIRAL,AD ASTRA, DOCTOR WHO SOCIETY

CONSTELLATION AWARDS, GENRE MEDIA,CANT STOP SERENITY/TORONTO BROWN COATS

KAG KANADA, ONTARIO GHOSTBUSTERS,TORONTO STAMPUNK SOCIETY

NERO CANADA LARP GROUP, CLUTCH WEBERIES, ILLUSIONOID PODCAST

PRETTY IN GEEK WEBSERIES, RUBY SKYE P.I

 

 

Please check out the web-site for updates and additional guests. Toronto ComiCon Guest list.

 

CELEBRITY GUESTS

MICHAEL HOGAN - Battlestar Galactica, Teen Wolf

 

LAURA VANDERVOORT - Smallville, V

 

SEAN ASTIN - The Goonies, The Lord of The Rings

 

TORRI HIGGINSON - Stargate Atlantis, Tekwar

 

DANIEL LOGAN - Star Wars- Episode II

 

 

 

AND THE CAST OF STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION TOGETHER !!!!!!!!!

 

SIR PATRICK STEWART- Captain Picard

 

JONATHAN FRAKES - Cmdr. Riker

 

LEVAR BURTON - Lt. Cmdr. La Forge

 

MICHEAL DORN - Lt. Worf

 

MARINA SIRTIS -Counselor Troi

 

BRENT SPINER - Lt. Cmdr. Data

 

GATES MCFADDEN - Dr. Crusher

 

 

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