Strongest Person in the Marvel Universe 0

[Stephen Strange-migration]

Juggernaut is about Thing, Colossus in strength

Nope, not even close. The closest person in strength to the Juggy would be the Hulk/Thor/Abomination people. According to the OHOTHMU, Juggy has class 100 strength the extent of which had never been fully measured.

Class 100: Hulk, Thor, Abomination, Juggernaut

Class 80: Thing, Colossus, Beast?

 

Reading and copying...

Juggernaut : Superhuman Class 90

Thing : Superhuman Class 90

Thor : Superhuman Class 100

Hulk : Superhuman Class 100

Gladiator II : Incalculable (his powers will increase with his self-assurance but start at about Superhuman Class 90)

Colossus : Superhuman Class 100

 

This is from the OHOTMU (Original edition.. back when they minded about continuity)

[Aces]

He... that's a good one. I totally forgot... (and I have them all except one). Maybe there is a small subline in Odin's enchantment that allows both his sons to lift it. But I have to check what the circomstances where in those cases.

 

I think it was when Thor was exiled to earth and cursed or something.

Maybe the hammer was damaged.

 

I'm trying not to read them in detail.

 

I about 2/3 of the way to getting all the 12 cent Thors and I'm goona sit my fanny down and read them cover to cover, ads and letter pages, from 83 to ..........?

[deathlok]

According to the OHOTMU:

 

The first enchantment is that no living being can lift the hammer from the ground unless he or she is worthy. Hence, so far as is known, only Odin, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill are able to lift Mjolnir. Apparently no one without superhuman strength can lift the hammer, whether he or she is worthy or not.

[Aces]

According to the OHOTMU:

 

The first enchantment is that no living being can lift the hammer from the ground unless he or she is worthy. Hence, so far as is known, only Odin, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill are able to lift Mjolnir. Apparently no one without superhuman strength can lift the hammer, whether he or she is worthy or not.

 

Oh you guys are going to make me dig though my Thor pile eh....?

[Aces]

From Thor 153 page 3:

 

 

That's Loki in street garb.

[The Brain]

From Thor 153 page 3:

 

 

That's Loki in street garb.

 

This might help http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/thor.html

[Aces]

I trust the comics, not the fanboy websites.

[The Brain]

Have you read it?? Look accurate to me.

[AussieRuss]

Cmon Guy's

 

Get serious. Below is the strongest hero of ALL.

 

Just the sight of him causes other heroes & Villians to tremble & bow at his presance.

 

 

Game over.... The war has been won.......

Edited June 7, 2005 by AussieRuss

[Aces]

Have you read it?? Look accurate to me.

 

Do you see the panels of Loki lifting Thor's Hammer (twice)?

 

That's the trouble nowdays.

 

People don't read and believe the Bible, instead they will listen to what some theologian says about the Bible and believe that.

 

People don't read and follow the Constitution, instead they just accept what some flakey lawyer or judge says it means without thinking.

 

Now it's come to comics...

 

Instead of reading the comic to see what happens they go to fan websites...

 

*sarcasm alert*

[Stephen Strange-migration]

oke... we can add some people who over the years have lifted it (probably because the enchantment deemed them worthy) Wonder Woman, Superman and Captain America. Comic fact... they were seen doing it in the comics.

 

Obviously (as we see here) Loki is also one of them. And that can only be because he is the son of Odin. mm... I totally forgot that story... now I hav to re-read myself.

 

Aside from this...

Don't forget we were talking about strongest as in choose one from the mentioned list...! So Galactus etc. don't hold sway here. Obviously stronger but he was not on the list.

[deathlok]

Just because Loki lifted the hammer in two panels on one page means that is true. The whoel story would have to be read to find out how.

 

In an early issue of JIM, Hulk was able to lift the hammer. Why? Because Thor has asked Odin to lift the enchantment from the hammer so that he could fight the Hulk without the hammer's magic. So Thor threw the hammer at Hulk and Hulk caught it.

[Darthdiesel]

Didn't Storm also lift the Hammer in an Xmen annual? (10?)

[uclapeterg]

Didn't Storm also lift the Hammer in an Xmen annual? (10?)

 

I think it was 8.

[arexcrooke]

Juggernaut is about Thing, Colossus in strength

Nope, not even close. The closest person in strength to the Juggy would be the Hulk/Thor/Abomination people. According to the OHOTHMU, Juggy has class 100 strength the extent of which had never been fully measured.

Class 100: Hulk, Thor, Abomination, Juggernaut

Class 80: Thing, Colossus, Beast?

 

Reading and copying...

Juggernaut : Superhuman Class 90

Thing : Superhuman Class 90

Thor : Superhuman Class 100

Hulk : Superhuman Class 100

Gladiator II : Incalculable (his powers will increase with his self-assurance but start at about Superhuman Class 90)

Colossus : Superhuman Class 100

 

This is from the OHOTMU (Original edition.. back when they minded about continuity)

Copied from Marveldirectory.com, which is an online version of the OHOTMU.

Definition:

Abomination

Absorbing Man

Apocalypse

Atlas (II)

Beta Ray Thor

Binary

Dragon Man

Ego

Forgotten One

Galactus

Gladiator

Hercules

Hulk

Iron Man (I) (enhanced by armor, connected to external power source)

Joseph

Juggernaut

Kurse

Leir

Maelstrom

Magneto

Magus

Mephisto

Nimrod (II)

Odin

Orka (in water)

Shaper of Worlds

Silver Surfer

Stranger

Surtur

Terminus (enhanced by armor)

Thanos

Thor

Utgard-Loki

War Machine (enhanced by armor, connected to external power source)

Watchers

Ymir

Not trying to argue like some loser fan boy, but Juggy does have class 100 strength.

[s-man]

Not trying to argue like some loser fan boy

 

 

And yet, who else would have a list like this one...

[precodekeith]

Hey guys, obviously the answer is Conan, since these other suggestions are just make believe comic persons.

[arexcrooke]

Not trying to argue like some loser fan boy

 

 

And yet, who else would have a list like this one...

Um the website I used? I also could have gone through my OHOTMU second edition, but that woulda been to analretentive

[s-man]

Not trying to argue like some loser fan boy

 

 

And yet, who else would have a list like this one...

Um the website I used? I also could have gone through my OHOTMU second edition, but that woulda been to analretentive

 

[Stephen Strange-migration]

mm... I have one little problem here... That's why I use the old loose-leaf edition more that those new ones.

 

Juggernaut and Colossus are the same strength level. They have often fought each other and in chear punch and lift power are about each other's equal in all those story-lines.

 

Colossus lost against major 100 class characters.

 

Are you sure you're list isn't giving the power as in all power (including invulnerability etc.) instead of lifting/ punch power. Which is basic strength.

 

Just want to place him where he belongs... The touch part about Juggy is that his popularity is linked to that of the X-Men. He gets stronger by the day.

And that for a totally non-mutant mystical enhanced Exemplar of Cytorrak. Ha...