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Comics, Pulps, and Paperbacks: Why such a discrepancy in values?
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On 12/2/2021 at 5:20 PM, Surfing Alien said:

Picked up another one of these. Yes I have a problem  lol  My problem is that I still haven't managed to pick up one of the pink color covers, which are probably the scarcest of this original Signet 798 edition with the classic Alan Harmon cover illustration :frustrated:

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I like the cut of your jib, sir.

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You know there's never a bad time to be humbled, it's good for the soul. Due to my somewhat irrational obsession with Superman #1, I was wandering around the old BangZoom thread last night, marveling again at the breadth of his collections. I had forgotten just how many hundreds of pages were spent on there not devoted to comics, but showcasing his amazing pulp collection and had almost completely forgotten how many vintage paperbacks were shown and discussed. BangZoom had commented that, back in the 60's & 70's, when he was accumulating his comics, dealers gave him boxes and boxes of paperbacks. He mentioned he had lots of duplicates and casually posted this picture:

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Then BB-Gun asked him how many paperbacks he had and he casually dropped this comment :whatthe:

 

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(worship) 30,000! I mean that might be Lance Casebeer territory. I wasn't back into paperbacks at the time of those comments (I was on the boards back then too but lost my password at some point and reinstated my account in 2014) so I probably didn't notice it at the time but wowza, that's a lot of paperbacks and they're obviously all vintage since he stopped collecting in the 1970's :wavingwhiteflag:

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On 12/3/2021 at 8:36 AM, Surfing Alien said:

You know there's never a bad time to be humbled, it's good for the soul. Due to my somewhat irrational obsession with Superman #1, I was wandering around the old BangZoom thread last night, marveling again at the breadth of his collections. I had forgotten just how many hundreds of pages were spent on there not devoted to comics, but showcasing his amazing pulp collection and had almost completely forgotten how many vintage paperbacks were shown and discussed. BangZoom had commented that, back in the 60's & 70's, when he was accumulating his comics, dealers gave him boxes and boxes of paperbacks. He mentioned he had lots of duplicates and casually posted this picture:

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Then BB-Gun asked him how many paperbacks he had and he casually dropped this comment :whatthe:

 

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(worship) 30,000! I mean that might be Lance Casebeer territory. I wasn't back into paperbacks at the time of those comments (I was on the boards back then too but lost my password at some point and reinstated my account in 2014) so I probably didn't notice it at the time but wowza, that's a lot of paperbacks and they're obviously all vintage since he stopped collecting in the 1970's :wavingwhiteflag:

Yeah, I miss @BangZoom  :(

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On 12/6/2021 at 7:01 PM, Randall Dowling said:

Cross posting from the magazine section.  Figured you guys would appreciate these.  A couple of awesome magazines from the early 50s.  

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Wow, that Line-Up Detective cover looks startlingly like a Ray Johnson, the first one of these True Detectives i've ever seen that triggered my RayJo antennae. Can you give the date and does it have any info on the inside? 

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On 12/6/2021 at 7:07 PM, Surfing Alien said:

Wow, that Line-Up Detective cover looks startlingly like a Ray Johnson, the first one of these True Detectives i've ever seen that triggered my RayJo antennae. Can you give the date and does it have any info on the inside? 

Interesting!  It's December 1950.  There's no attribution inside.  I have several others that I'm pretty sure are by the same artist but I haven't been able to place it.  Have to keep a look out for more information.  (thumbsu

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On 12/6/2021 at 8:51 PM, Randall Dowling said:

Interesting!  It's December 1950.  There's no attribution inside.  I have several others that I'm pretty sure are by the same artist but I haven't been able to place it.  Have to keep a look out for more information.  (thumbsu

I'm 99% sure that's Ray and am forwarding the image to my buddies who are working on the checklist for cross verification.  The high pudgy cheekbones, thick eyelashes, the hair curled under, the brushstrokes and shading, the rear view of the dude - all scream Ray. He used the same model in this time period for Flame Vine, God Wears a Bowtie and Along the Broadway Beat and some others. I knew he did some work for the True Crime mags because there is an incredibly detailed signed Duotone interior from a 1948 True Police Cases on ComicArtFans but I haven't seen any covers. Of course there is so much of this "True" stuff out there un-catalogued but am happy to pick one up from a buddy on this thread! Please post or PM the others you suspect are by this artist. The only other artists whose women look like Ray's are Gilbert Fullington, who this is definitely not, and Charles Copeland, who this is way too early for.

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On 12/6/2021 at 10:28 PM, Surfing Alien said:

The verdict is in. That Line-Up Detective is an obvious Raymond Johnson cover and the team members collectively said the same thing...  "Great Find" ... No one has ever seen a Johnson "True" cover before and we have about 120 years combined trying to figure him out!

I'll dig out some others and send them your way.  (thumbsu

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