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Comics; a gateway to perversion?

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Firespitter

Firespitter

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rantrant

I work at a school and earlier this week I decided to take some old dollar comics to school to let the kids look at when they have time, (rather than make them stare at walls when they have to wait on me).

I was talking to a teacher in the hall, when a student and his parent walked by us. The parent was taking him home early because he wasn't feeling well. I turned to my stack of dollar comics and pulled out a Spiderman/Capt. America comic and handed to the kid (who might be 11-12) and wished him to get well soon. The parent grabbed it and she looked at me like I handed him a playboy.

 

I realize that schools have taken a very serious attitude to teaching the kids anything that isn't inside of a school book and derivation from that has gotten more than a few people fired. But it was just a superhero comic. I looked through the comic to make sure there was none of the Evil 4 B's (Boobs, Booze, Blood or Bad Language). I wasn't handing him a McFarlane, a Frank Miller, an Emma Frost or a Grimms Fairy Tales.

 

Are parents so over-protective of their kids that 20-year-old spidey old comic books are too violent or sexy for anyone under 18 (or 21)?

Sheesh.

-T

(shrug)

Davenport

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Did she actually say anything?

 

My 1st thought was she was probably really pizzed at her kid for ruining her day, and then you had the audacity to 'reward' the kid for having played the I'm-sick-mommy-come-get-me card. :eek:

dupont2005

dupont2005

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I turned to my stack of dollar comics and pulled out a Spiderman/Capt. America comic and handed to the kid (who might be 11-12) and wished him to get well soon. The parent grabbed it and she looked at me like I handed him a playboy.
Maybe she's looked at any super hero comic published in the past 20 years and assumed it was similar in subject matter. A 20 year old comic would have been published in 1994, and yeah, I'd say a lot of mainstream superhero comics from that era are in poor taste. That's why I don't give comics out on Halloween. I don't need angry parents hating me because I didn't thoroughly inspect every box of drek I give away and one of the comics was filled with fanservice moneyshot panels like this

http://hushcomics.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/img_4140.jpg

 

fastballspecial

fastballspecial

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I use to keep comics my closet at school when I was a teacher. When the kids (middle school) got done early with homework I just brought out a stack of comics. I never really got complaints some read them some didn't.

 

I was a very young man and very naïve to teaching in general.(You are never prepared in college for what you see that first year.) In my later years I have realized that there is a small, but growing % of "helicopter parents" who really over protect their children.

 

They view their values and morals as they only ones their children should ever be exposed too. Many times thank god they elect to home school or send to other types of educational institutions eventually.

 

Its been many years since I have taught school, but I never forgot those type of parents. Several of them I always thought would drool at having a good book burning party.

stanley1883

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I never really understood the argument that blamed violence or sexual deviance on music, movies, comics, etc. What happened to parents raising their children?

The people that blame their childs bad behavior on music, movies, comics, etc are nothing more than bad parents looking for a scapegoat.

JollyComics

JollyComics

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rantrant

I work at a school and earlier this week I decided to take some old dollar comics to school to let the kids look at when they have time, (rather than make them stare at walls when they have to wait on me).

I was talking to a teacher in the hall, when a student and his parent walked by us. The parent was taking him home early because he wasn't feeling well. I turned to my stack of dollar comics and pulled out a Spiderman/Capt. America comic and handed to the kid (who might be 11-12) and wished him to get well soon. The parent grabbed it and she looked at me like I handed him a playboy.

 

I realize that schools have taken a very serious attitude to teaching the kids anything that isn't inside of a school book and derivation from that has gotten more than a few people fired. But it was just a superhero comic. I looked through the comic to make sure there was none of the Evil 4 B's (Boobs, Booze, Blood or Bad Language). I wasn't handing him a McFarlane, a Frank Miller, an Emma Frost or a Grimms Fairy Tales.

 

Are parents so over-protective of their kids that 20-year-old spidey old comic books are too violent or sexy for anyone under 18 (or 21)?

Sheesh.

-T

(shrug)

 

Yeah, one mother wanted the school system to ban Jeff Smith's Bone. Jeff Smith checked if there were any sex, alcohol, language or violence. Sex is almost nonexistent, alcohol is almost unnoticeable but the social drinks. Language is clean. Violence is yes but not extreme.

 

The school system didn't ban his books. I know one person can be overboard.

 

At one point, I worked for two deaf summer camps in many years ago. Most of deaf children couldn't hear us so all kids might wear the same color T-shirts so we could find or catch them if they drifted away. One crazy mother resent and howled at the school principal that prompted forced the program coordinator to leave her office to the school to handle her.

 

Just one stupid T-shirt that made her a big stupid deal!

 

I know you were careful but there are some crazy overprotective parents.

Garf

Garf

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I never really understood the argument that blamed violence or sexual deviance on music, movies, comics, etc. What happened to parents raising their children?

The people that blame their childs bad behavior on music, movies, comics, etc are nothing more than bad parents looking for a scapegoat.

 

+1

 

Just to add to this I believe than in a lot of cases protecting your child from too much simply by denying them access to stuff can lead to them not developing the self awareness they need to be able to make their own decisions and develop their own sense of morality.

 

Comics, music, movies, videogames, youtube... all fine if the kids are the target audience. Being there with them to help them understand how to be responsible can be time consuming but it's worth it.

 

I dunno ... never really thought of hero comics as taboo (maybe if they contain overt and graphic violence)... first thing that pops into my head is my soon to be 7 year old daughter could flip you the bird but she won't because she understands what that and basic swearing is. Anyone who hasn't ever sworn in front of their kids has clearly never driven them anywhere. I don't out and out teach her but I sometimes ask her what new swear words she knows (probably from the playground at school) and go from there, I don't ever want to get into a relationship where either of my daughters feel ignored or embarrassed to talk about something.

Ares

Ares

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Yeah, one mother wanted the school system to ban Jeff Smith's Bone. Jeff Smith checked if there were any sex, alcohol, language or violence. Sex is almost nonexistent, alcohol is almost unnoticeable but the social drinks. Language is clean. Violence is yes but not extreme.

 

The school system didn't ban his books. I know one person can be overboard.

 

At one point, I worked for two deaf summer camps in many years ago. Most of deaf children couldn't hear us so all kids might wear the same color T-shirts so we could find or catch them if they drifted away. One crazy mother resent and howled at the school principal that prompted forced the program coordinator to leave her office to the school to handle her.

 

Just one stupid T-shirt that made her a big stupid deal!

 

I know you were careful but there are some crazy overprotective parents.

 

Why would Jeff Check his own books?

 

 

What was momma problem?

G.D. Kennedy

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Comics were some of the best tools for getting kids to read when I taught. I had kids who were behind grade and struggling readers and hated to pick up books because there were so embarrassed about their reading skills would scoop up comics and pore through them. They can be an awesome teaching tool for some kids.

Speedy-D

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I never really understood the argument that blamed violence or sexual deviance on music, movies, comics, etc. What happened to parents raising their children?

The people that blame their childs bad behavior on music, movies, comics, etc are nothing more than bad parents looking for a scapegoat.

Neither of those positions is true.

bug33fouf

bug33fouf

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I never really understood the argument that blamed violence or sexual deviance on music, movies, comics, etc. What happened to parents raising their children?

The people that blame their childs bad behavior on music, movies, comics, etc are nothing more than bad parents looking for a scapegoat.

^^
Davenport

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I never really understood the argument that blamed violence or sexual deviance on music, movies, comics, etc. What happened to parents raising their children?

The people that blame their childs bad behavior on music, movies, comics, etc are nothing more than bad parents looking for a scapegoat.

^^

Isn't completely dismissing pop influences just the opposite end of the spectrum from blaming them for everything? The 'life-imitates-art' truism exists because it's sometimes true, yes?

 

Kids have free will and "listen to parents" becomes a choice among many during those goofy lemming-years of young adolescence.

 

 

vaillant

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I was thinking about this a lot lately, and I think a good explanation would be his mother probably has no familiarity whatsoever with Marvel comics then and Marvel comics now.

 

Most of Marvel comics now are obviously not suitable for children – well, in fact I am still wondering to whom they might be suitable… lol

 

The abolition of the Comics Code also introduced a complex array of problems by which a parent should be well aware to what the history of a comics publisher is, before easily dismissing this or that as nocive: a conscious parent would have obviously lauded you for handling him a bronze Cap or Spidey. :)

DeadpoolJr.

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I had teachers in my school all the time that let us read comics, especially the English teachers. One of them was a even a hardcore collector who I heard had a huge collection, and my junior English teacher would let me read the Watchman trade she had in her room. Comics are not bad, if picking the right ones to give to kids.

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