Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC??? 40 40

[Bomber-Bob]

 

See I don't understand the crack thing. Maybe it my child at Christmas morning mentality, but every time I have popped one out the case there was no way the case could be reused. I just don't see how it is possible.

 

I have cracked out many books in my CGC collecting lifetime. Most of the time I can successfully retain a reusable slab, a slab with only a small hairline crack on the side, near the post, not visible from the front. I then use the slabs to put my favorite raw comics on display. If you were to inspect these 'slabs' in hand, you would be hard pressed to notice any obvious damage. Here's a couple pics of my display stand.....

 

Bob, can you please clarify what you are saying? I think some are believing that you are claiming you have "re-snapped" the posts together on the slab, and that it would not be obvious that they are in fact broken if a person were to actually visually inspect the "re-used" slabs in hand.

 

-J.

 

Okay, I am holding one of my display slabs in my hands. Obviously, to get the original book out you need to pop two posts. In this case it is the top two posts. Both posts have been resnapped back together. Are the posts tight and snug secure ? No. Are they tight enough that they stay together with ordinary handling ? Yes. My trick is to put the re-snapped slab into a tight CGC bag. In the bag the posts are tight and secure. Out of the bag, the slab will open very easily by prying on one of the sides. I can only see one hairline crack, on one side only, near the post, one inch max, very faint.

I am not mechanically inclined. I cannot 100% of the time open up a slab without damage. My secret to opening the slab without obvious damage is rather simple but will not be disclosed here. I do this just for my own personal use. I have never sold or given anyone else one of my snapped slabs. I only brought this up to back up my position that the ASM 5 slab was tampered with.

Edited December 24, 2014 by bomber-bob

[Jaydogrules]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

[BEAUMONTS]

It's not a matter of believe it, I have nothing to gain or lose. I am simple recounting what I did and what happened.

[rjpb]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

How do you open them? I've cracked maybe a dozen slabs using a flathead screwdriver, and while the posts always get damaged ( I haven't actually tried to avoid this), I've never had a case splinter on me.

 

 

 

[Bomber-Bob]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

How do you open them? I've cracked maybe a dozen slabs using a flathead screwdriver, and while the posts always get damaged ( I haven't actually tried to avoid this), I've never had a case splinter on me.

 

Sounds like Jaydog has a rough touch !

[Silver Surfer]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

How do you open them? I've cracked maybe a dozen slabs using a flathead screwdriver, and while the posts always get damaged ( I haven't actually tried to avoid this), I've never had a case splinter on me.

 

 

 

I just open mine with my hands but every now and then I get a slab that is extra tight and that can help splinter the slab. I have opened slabs with a screwdriver but when you get one of those tight slabs then it usually is going to crack at some point.

[Jaydogrules]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

How do you open them? I've cracked maybe a dozen slabs using a flathead screwdriver, and while the posts always get damaged ( I haven't actually tried to avoid this), I've never had a case splinter on me.

 

Sounds like Jaydog has a rough touch !

 

I am known to have "heavy hands" as my mother would say, but I do use a flat head. The moment I get to the second post is where things get dicey, and in a worst case scenario the case splinters as if I snapped a CD in half.

 

-J.

[Bomber-Bob]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

How do you open them? I've cracked maybe a dozen slabs using a flathead screwdriver, and while the posts always get damaged ( I haven't actually tried to avoid this), I've never had a case splinter on me.

 

Sounds like Jaydog has a rough touch !

 

I am known to have "heavy hands" as my mother would say, but I do use a flat head. The moment I get to the second post is where things get dicey, and in a worst case scenario the case splinters as if I snapped a CD in half.

 

-J.

 

Okay, I will say this, using a screwdriver to open up the slab is the worst thing. It will probably crack and damage the slab for sure.

[thunderstick]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

Perhaps if you had read his posting you would comprehend the point he was making; Brought the slab in "directly from the cold"

 

The colder the temperature the greater the contraction of the material, so what beaumonts is reporting is completely plausible.

[slym2none]

So, the posts are not sonicly welded, they just snap together?

 

 

 

-slym

[shadroch]

I use a kitchen knife.I don't really try to pop the book without breaking the posts, but I think a good percent of my opened slabs could pass as unopened. Especially to the uninformed , at a show.

i have little doubt a professional thief would have a much higher percentage.

[Jaydogrules]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

Perhaps if you had read his posting you would comprehend the point he was making; Brought the slab in "directly from the cold"

 

The colder the temperature the greater the contraction of the material, so what beaumonts is reporting is completely plausible.

 

I read his post and comprehended it fine, thanks. There are plenty of people on these boards that live in cold climate and that may or may not have anything to do with his experience.

 

If anything I'm inclined to think bomber-bob's results are typical and that the posts can snap back together but could easily be pulled apart again with the fingers, thus making it obvious if the slab has been tampered with, if in hand.

 

-J.

[jaybuck43]

One of the biggest issues with CGC slabs is that the label is not sealed in. If you use 12" tweezers or a pair of Polypus you can reach in and pull out and swap the label without cracking the posts. The label SHOULD BE sealed in the inner well

[joeypost]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

Perhaps if you had read his posting you would comprehend the point he was making; Brought the slab in "directly from the cold"

 

The colder the temperature the greater the contraction of the material, so what beaumonts is reporting is completely plausible.

 

I read his post and comprehended it fine, thanks. There are plenty of people on these boards that live in cold climate and that may or may not have anything to do with his experience.

 

If anything I'm inclined to think bomber-bob's results are typical and that the posts can snap back together but could easily be pulled apart again with the fingers, thus making it obvious if the slab has been tampered with, if in hand.

 

-J.

 

two dots of crazy glue can take care of that. Once you know the technique you can crack out slabs with your fingers with little to no damage to the case.

[Jaydogrules]

One of the biggest issues with CGC slabs is that the label is not sealed in. If you use 12" tweezers or a pair of Polypus you can reach in and pull out and swap the label without cracking the posts. The label SHOULD BE sealed in the inner well

 

Again, I would like to see a youtube video of this actually being done. Yes I could imagine one being pulled out. But not without ripping it, or damaging it significantly. Same for trying to put a different one in.

 

-J.

[Jaydogrules]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

Perhaps if you had read his posting you would comprehend the point he was making; Brought the slab in "directly from the cold"

 

The colder the temperature the greater the contraction of the material, so what beaumonts is reporting is completely plausible.

 

I read his post and comprehended it fine, thanks. There are plenty of people on these boards that live in cold climate and that may or may not have anything to do with his experience.

 

If anything I'm inclined to think bomber-bob's results are typical and that the posts can snap back together but could easily be pulled apart again with the fingers, thus making it obvious if the slab has been tampered with, if in hand.

 

-J.

 

two dots of crazy glue can take care of that. Once you know the technique you can crack out slabs with your fingers with little to no damage to the case.

 

Precisely the reason why I thoroughly inspect any slab I buy.

 

-J.

[jaybuck43]

jay dog if I posted a video of how to do it, then people could do it But trust me, it can be done.

[Silver Surfer]

This seems appropriate for this thread:

[Jaydogrules]

jay dog if I posted a video of how to do it, then people could do it But trust me, it can be done.

 

I find the entire prospect disturbing. All the more reason to buy the book and not the label. (thumbs u

 

-J.

[DWL]

A couple of years ago I received a CGC comic in the mail, I live in Regina Sk Canada and it was a typical cold winter day. The slab I received was a comic for my personal collection so it is/was cracked out. Brought the slab in "directly from the cold" and put a butter knife on the side to spread it open, usually a post breaks or the plastic cracks, the posts popped out perfectly and I removed the contents and they popped back together.

 

Not sure if it was the extreme cold and there was a possible contraction of the inner post or ?, but regardless it was undetectable.

Maybe they could have a fail safe system where they have the CGC cert# etched on the case somewhere to make sure that both numbers correlate

 

I think I would have to see a youtube video of this to really believe it. Although I have tried on numerous occasions to see if it was remotely possible, every slab I have cracked has either ended up splintering all over the cracked along the side as Bomber Bob described. And even if I could pop one corner with even a slight crack, the second post inevitably destroys the slab every time (or at least made it extremely "tamper evident").

 

-J.

 

Perhaps if you had read his posting you would comprehend the point he was making; Brought the slab in "directly from the cold"

 

The colder the temperature the greater the contraction of the material, so what beaumonts is reporting is completely plausible.

 

I read his post and comprehended it fine, thanks. There are plenty of people on these boards that live in cold climate and that may or may not have anything to do with his experience.

 

If anything I'm inclined to think bomber-bob's results are typical and that the posts can snap back together but could easily be pulled apart again with the fingers, thus making it obvious if the slab has been tampered with, if in hand.

 

-J.

 

two dots of crazy glue can take care of that. Once you know the technique you can crack out slabs with your fingers with little to no damage to the case.