*Bronze age fan* Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, MusterMark said: Wait, so you're saying that the Atlas western, monster, romance, war and horror comics did not have new content??! Interesting. Super hero type new content. The more things change. The more they stay the same. ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusterMark Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, *Bronze age fan* said: 17 minutes ago, MusterMark said: Wait, so you're saying that the Atlas western, monster, romance, war and horror comics did not have new content??! Interesting. Super hero type new content. The more things change. The more they stay the same. Ok, so you didn't mention a reference to superheroes (just "heroes") in your first statement. No worries, it makes that statement a bit more understandable now. (But why the heavy emphasis on superheroes any way?) And secondly, I am also not following your new statement: "The more things change. The more they stay the same." ?? What does this mean, in this context? (I must be obtuse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonmorris1000000 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) Hmmm. 5 years before Showcase #4, so not quite silver. It was new Super Hero stuff though. Edited March 31, 2021 by Jasonmorris1000000 *Bronze age fan*, ThothAmon, sagii and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) On 3/29/2021 at 10:22 PM, da.amazing.spiderman said: Spec. Alert : Possibly the Most Undervalued and Unknown "Major Key" Fantastic Four / X-Men Comic Gang: I think it's fair to say that the (2) most eagerly anticipated MCU intellectual property that Disney will be debuting on the big screen in the next few years will be the Fantastic Four and the X-Men franchise. Needless to say, Disney didn't spend over 70 billion dollars to acquire the movie rights of these (2) entities from 21st Century Fox just to have them sit on the shelf and collect dust. I also think it's fair to say that there has been massive...massive...massive...speculation on virtually every major and minor Fantastic Four and X-Men characters and thus has caused the price of most "1st Appearance" books to go ballistic. In other words, it's very difficult to find any bargains on "Key" Fantastic Four or X-Men books in the market at this time. I'm sure we've all made our "bets" at the Ebay casino and have accumulated a stash of raw and graded Fantastic Four and X-Men comics that we believe will continue to appreciate during this comic bull market. Now, before I go any further let me disclose that I've been speculating aggressively on this one particular comic. For some time now, I've been stalking all decent mid and high grade copies of this item from Ebay and other websites. Truthfully, I think this puppy will be a "home run" for daddy. Okay, enough small talk. It is my opinion that the single most undervalued and unknown "Major Key" Fantastic Four or X-Men book is...Fantastic Four #28. This oversight by the comic collecting community on this bad boy is absolutely due to the misleading CGC descriptive label. The current CGC descriptive label for Fantastic Four #28 states..."Early X-Men appearance. Puppet Master, Awesome Android, and Mad Thinker appearance" Go search the web and do your own investigative homework on Fantastic Four #28. This CGC descriptive label for Fantastic Four #28 when CORRECTED / UPDATED / REVISED by CGC will someday in the future state..."1st Meeting Between the Fantastic Four and the X-Men" Yes, this book is the 1st Meeting Between the Fantastic Four and the X-Men!!! Come on Now...How can anyone that's a comic connoisseur NOT want to own a copy of the 1st Meeting Between the Fantastic Four and the X-Men??? At its current selling price on Ebay, this puppy is undervalued and has "POTENTIAL" written all over the book Still not sold??? Then consider the following other positive attributes for this book... 1) FF #28 has an AWESOME Kirby battle cover featuring ALL of the team members (minus Professor X) from both the FF and X-Men. Without question, 1st appearance books are more desired / coveted by the comic collecting community when the character(s) are prominently featured on the cover. 2) FF #28 was released in July 1964. This is the same month that X-Men #6 was printed. Early "Key" Silver Age books published pre-1965 are highly desired / coveted by the comic collecting community due to their rarity and the fact that no one took care (bagged and boarded) comics back in the 1960's. 3) The Avengers are old news. The "#1 Draft" right now at Disney are the FF and the X-Men. Disney is laser focused on bringing the FF and X-Men to the big screen. Disney knows how to make money and these two Marvel franchises will someday be prominently featured together for us to enjoy at the movie theaters. 4) FF #28 is undervalued when stacked against other similar books. Just go to Ebay and do a price comparison of FF #28 against X-Men #9 (1st Meeting Between the X-men and the Avengers ; Published January 1965 ; Released 6 Months AFTER FF #28). You'll note that in most grades, FF #28 has been selling for approximately HALF the price that X-Men #9 has been commanding. Why??? Because most collectors have absolutely no knowledge of the huge significance of this book. FF #28 has been falsely stigmatized with an incorrect / misleading descriptive label since the inception of CGC. Yes, the prices have been creeping up, but FF #28 has not even come close to going vertical. 5) FF #28 is a book that's 57 years old. You're not going to find any dealer with a "warehouse find" of this book in high grade or near mint condition. 6) Once the "Truth" with regards to FF #28 is known in the comic collecting community, watch as the demand / supply equation becomes radically skewed and the laws of Economics 101 plays havoc with the price of this book. . In summary, you might want to consider locating yourself a nice copy of FF #28 for your personal collection before more peeps realize that this book is a "Major Key" and is the 1st Meeting Between the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. Nuff said!!! Avengers 9 is a poor-man's Tales of Suspense 49. Upside with TOS 49, third appearance (and first solo story) of The Watcher. Oh yeah, it also predates X-Men 3 so it's their third appearance as well. Edited March 31, 2021 by PeterPark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PeterPark Posted March 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hours ago, da.amazing.spiderman said: Hmmm....It's clarification time. Strange Tales #120 (Human Torch meets the Ice Man...That's it. Two teenage super-heroes meeting) Tales of Suspense #49 (Iron Man meets the Angel...That's it. Absolutely NOT a meeting of any team whatsoever.) Fantastic Four #28 (1st Meeting Between the Fantastic Four and the X-Men) I wouldn't say no teams. Comicshows, ThothAmon, gadzukes and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Teacher Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 9:22 PM, da.amazing.spiderman said: In summary, you might want to consider locating yourself a nice copy of FF #28 for your personal collection before more peeps realize that this book is a "Major Key" and is the 1st Meeting Between the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. Nuff said!!! I think that the peeps have already found this out. I looked on Ebay, ComicConnect, MyComicShop, and multiple online dealers, and copies of FF #28 in grades above 4.5 were hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 14 hours ago, MusterMark said: Aw Sharon, please. You gotta look underneath the surface! take MusterMark and djzombi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da.amazing.spiderman Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Math Teacher said: I think that the peeps have already found this out. I looked on Ebay, ComicConnect, MyComicShop, and multiple online dealers, and copies of FF #28 in grades above 4.5 were hard to find. Okay, let me assist you in your search. If you have the ammo, how about a nice FF #28 in CGC 9.6 or 9.4 that's still out available as of today (3/31) at Heritage? For the record, I have absolutely NO involvement with either of these books. https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=0+793+794+791+792+1893+1577+2088&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Nty=1&Ntt=fantastic+four+28&limitTo=all&ic=homepage-search-A-071316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Teacher Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, da.amazing.spiderman said: Okay, let me assist you in your search. If you have the ammo, how about a nice FF #28 in CGC 9.6 or 9.4 that's still out available as of today (3/31) at Heritage? Those books are WAY out of my league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 hours ago, da.amazing.spiderman said: Okay, let me assist you in your search. If you have the ammo, how about a nice FF #28 in CGC 9.6 or 9.4 that's still out available as of today (3/31) at Heritage? For the record, I have absolutely NO involvement with either of these books. https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=0+793+794+791+792+1893+1577+2088&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Nty=1&Ntt=fantastic+four+28&limitTo=all&ic=homepage-search-A-071316 I can barely see these comics next to the FF 12's on the same page. I think the money is much better spent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bronze age fan* Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 21 hours ago, Jasonmorris1000000 said: Hmmm. 5 years before Showcase #4, so not quite silver. It was new Super Hero stuff though. I would call these golden age. Great comics! I hope to land copies of them someday. Terry E. Gibbs, 1950's war comics and Jasonmorris1000000 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Thurgood Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 21 hours ago, Jasonmorris1000000 said: Hmmm. 5 years before Showcase #4, so not quite silver. It was new Super Hero stuff though. "Marvel Boy tries to save the earth". They didn't use hard sell back in 1950 did they? WolverineX, alexgross.com, Jasonmorris1000000 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bronze age fan* Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Albert Thurgood said: "Marvel Boy tries to save the earth". They didn't use hard sell back in 1950 did they? Nah. More realistic. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post *Bronze age fan* Posted April 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2021 5 hours ago, da.amazing.spiderman said: Okay, let me assist you in your search. If you have the ammo, how about a nice FF #28 in CGC 9.6 or 9.4 that's still out available as of today (3/31) at Heritage? For the record, I have absolutely NO involvement with either of these books. https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=0+793+794+791+792+1893+1577+2088&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Nty=1&Ntt=fantastic+four+28&limitTo=all&ic=homepage-search-A-071316 Math Teacher, KirbyJack, bb8 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dositheus Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 22 hours ago, Jasonmorris1000000 said: Hmmm. 5 years before Showcase #4, so not quite silver. It was new Super Hero stuff though. Which brings us back around to neglected FF keys... Jasonmorris1000000, comic_memories and littledoom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Fantastic Giants 24 finally getting some much needed Ditko love Jasonmorris1000000 and WolverineX 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry E. Gibbs Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Detective 300 first Polka Dot man - or at least that is what some dealers are trying. Note sure comic collectors are into sardonic humour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocHntr Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Madness... Jasonmorris1000000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexinnih Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I've honesty never heard of "The Peacemaker" but obviously someone has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonmorris1000000 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I’ve always liked it. My girlfriend laughed hysterically when she saw my copy On 4/7/2021 at 9:47 PM, Terry E. Gibbs said: Detective 300 first Polka Dot man - or at least that is what some dealers are trying. Note sure comic collectors are into sardonic humour frozentundraguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...