Comprehensive List of DC Universe Logo UPC Variants 18 18

[Iconic1s]

On 5/30/2021 at 12:43 PM, Iconic1s said:

Wow!  I actually have something to contribute to this thread!  I pulled a stickered one from the same set. I submitted it about a month ago through CCS (box isn’t ‘received’ yet).  Sure it will be green label but will post pics when I get it back in a few months. 

As promised… finally got this back… not sure if the sticker alone bumped it down to 9.4 because I don’t see anything else wrong with it.

Spoiler

 

[L.E. Gill]

Very cool! Did you request qualified over universal or do the graders make that decision? I think in the case of a stickered DCU I would definitely want a green label.  A 9.4 seems pretty ok hit to take on the sticker. Do the grader notes say anything else?

[mrwoogieman]

On 6/24/2022 at 9:26 AM, L.E. Gill said:

Very cool! Did you request qualified over universal or do the graders make that decision? I think in the case of a stickered DCU I would definitely want a green label.  A 9.4 seems pretty ok hit to take on the sticker. Do the grader notes say anything else?

The Green Label takes care of the sticker. In other words, it's not a 9.4 because it was a 9.8 with a sticker attached. I wouldn't even know what grade to call a 9.4 book with a sticker - a 6.0 maybe?

 

[Iconic1s]

On 6/24/2022 at 8:26 AM, L.E. Gill said:

Very cool! Did you request qualified over universal or do the graders make that decision? I think in the case of a stickered DCU I would definitely want a green label.  A 9.4 seems pretty ok hit to take on the sticker. Do the grader notes say anything else?

Thank you!  I just let the graders make the call… didn’t ask for anything. The grader notes are identical to the notes on the label, which I thought was a little redundant.  

[Iconic1s]

On 6/24/2022 at 9:15 AM, mrwoogieman said:

The Green Label takes care of the sticker. In other words, it's not a 9.4 because it was a 9.8 with a sticker attached. I wouldn't even know what grade to call a 9.4 book with a sticker - a 6.0 maybe?

 

I wish they would try to differentiate between stickers placed by the manufacturer and those placed afterwards.  I understand that would be difficult but… it’s nice to wish.

[fastballspecial]

On 6/14/2022 at 5:02 PM, L.E. Gill said:

Been meaning to share this misprinted DCU, with a partially visible direct sales UPC under the DCU logo and then the entire cover was overprinted (?) with the back cover upside down on the front and vice versa.

It's a little hard to see some of the details, but for example you can see a bit of Batman's leg and cape etching and a DCU logo on the back cover. Some of the photos show a comparison to a normal version. I put the rest under the cut since it's a bit image heavy.

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That is awesome what a printing error.

 

[fastballspecial]

On 6/24/2022 at 10:39 AM, Iconic1s said:

I wish they would try to differentiate between stickers placed by the manufacturer and those placed afterwards.  I understand that would be difficult but… it’s nice to wish.

Thats what I was thinking as I was reading it. Qualified is an argument when the when its done at the distributor level.

 

[revat]

On 6/24/2022 at 8:39 AM, Iconic1s said:

On 6/24/2022 at 7:15 AM, mrwoogieman said:

The Green Label takes care of the sticker. In other words, it's not a 9.4 because it was a 9.8 with a sticker attached. I wouldn't even know what grade to call a 9.4 book with a sticker - a 6.0 maybe?

 

I wish they would try to differentiate between stickers placed by the manufacturer and those placed afterwards.  I understand that would be difficult but… it’s nice to wish.

it would be nice but the sticker is pretty generic.

That's one of the reasons that I didn't track stickered versions in this thread, there just didn't seem to be any way to track who/how/why any of them were stickered or not stickered OFFICIALLY (whatever that means).  My fear is that by putting them on the 'list' someone might see the list, think its 'official' in some capacity and purchase a falsely (whatever that means) stickered version.

 

But it would be nice if CGC did the research and figured it out.

Edited June 24, 2022 by revat

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

This talk of the stickered versions has me thinking. 

I have opened some of the character packs that did have stickered versions inside the pack. Which clearly shows that some of these were at least distributed with them, but some of the harder to find stickered versions I have yet to see sealed in a 2 pack ( they only way found so far some of these harder to find books were distributed) 

Do any of you have images of a 2 pack sealed with a stickered version?

@Cpt Kirk

[Iconic1s]

On 6/24/2022 at 12:29 PM, revat said:

But it would be nice if CGC did the research and figured it out.

Yes, that’s what I was referring to. Seems kinda tough to get a qualified label for a sticker that it’s well known (at least here) that was put on by the manufacturer. But then again, I suppose someone could print a sticker  themselves.

[L.E. Gill]

On 6/24/2022 at 12:35 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Do any of you have images of a 2 pack sealed with a stickered version?

I've pulled sticker Superman 104 directly from a sealed Collector's Set but frankly that one makes less sense than the sealed 2 packs, since they left the bar coded Green Lantern annual alone in one of the GL collector sets- no risk of the bar code being scanned for purchase. At least in the case of the 2 packs where the UPC of both comics are exposed, the stickers make sense for finishing up a batch if they ran short. For example, I have a non stickered Man of Steel 42 sealed in a 2 pack but we know the stickered version exists.  Was there a May 1995 10 pack? I remember that there was June 1995 but not sure about May.  If not, the 2 pack sets were probably the only way that MOS #42 was distributed unless they ended up in one of those 50 comic super value packs.

I do think the GL#55 stickered variant is questionable although I have seen more than one posted online because the sticker is not consistent with the other DCU stickers, but who knows. 

Here's a sealed Detective 690 with sticker:

And the back:

Edited June 26, 2022 by L.E. Gill
Corrected 'newsstand bar code' to just bar code GL. The annual in the Collector's Pack was a direct edition, not a newsstand.

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 6/24/2022 at 1:13 PM, L.E. Gill said:

I've pulled sticker Superman 104 directly from a sealed Collector's Set but frankly that one makes less sense than the sealed 2 packs, since they left the newstand bar coded Green Lantern annual alone in one of the GL collector sets- no risk of the bar code being scanned for purchase. At least in the case of the 2 packs where the UPC of both comics are exposed, the stickers make sense for finishing up a batch if they ran short. For example, I have a non stickered Man of Steel 42 sealed in a 2 pack but we know the stickered version exists.  Was there a May 1995 10 pack? I remember that there was June 1995 but not sure about May.  If not, the 2 pack sets were probably the only way that MOS #42 was distributed unless they ended up in one of those 50 comic super value packs.

I do think the GL#55 stickered variant is questionable although I have seen more than one posted online because the sticker is not consistent with the other DCU stickers, but who knows. 

Here's a sealed Detective 690 with sticker:

And the back:

I definitely agree that the 2 packs make more sense. I also agree about the Superman 104 as that is the same one I have pulled.  

Thank you for sharing the 2pack image as that is the first one I have seen and I do have a LOT of packs. 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

Speaking of which. I added this one yesterday. 

 

[Brandon Shepherd]

On 6/24/2022 at 4:14 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Speaking of which. I added this one yesterday. 

 

[kenaran]

The GL 55 does use a different sticker, it's square and a bit glossier, also a larger image.  However the pixilation looks the same to me, you can look for yourself and double check me.  Here's a new shot of GL 55 and a close up with a MoS 42 and Sup 104.  I got the GL 55 in a 6 book ebay purchase in late 2020, the other 5 issues were: Tales of the Teen Titans 66, Batman & Robin Adventures 3 (DCU), Flash 101 (DCU), Sup 106 (DCU), Catwoman Ann 2 (DCU).  I only paid $15.50 + S&H.  The Sup 104 is definitely newstand under the sticker, MoS 42 appears direct, but I could be wrong (dark inside ad prevents the bright light trick), GL 55 is definitely newstand.

On 6/24/2022 at 11:13 AM, L.E. Gill said:

I've pulled sticker Superman 104 directly from a sealed Collector's Set but frankly that one makes less sense than the sealed 2 packs, since they left the newstand bar coded Green Lantern annual alone in one of the GL collector sets- no risk of the bar code being scanned for purchase. At least in the case of the 2 packs where the UPC of both comics are exposed, the stickers make sense for finishing up a batch if they ran short. For example, I have a non stickered Man of Steel 42 sealed in a 2 pack but we know the stickered version exists.  Was there a May 1995 10 pack? I remember that there was June 1995 but not sure about May.  If not, the 2 pack sets were probably the only way that MOS #42 was distributed unless they ended up in one of those 50 comic super value packs.

I do think the GL#55 stickered variant is questionable although I have seen more than one posted online because the sticker is not consistent with the other DCU stickers, but who knows. 

Here's a sealed Detective 690 with sticker:

And the back:

 

[Cpt Kirk]

On 6/24/2022 at 1:35 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

This talk of the stickered versions has me thinking. 

I have opened some of the character packs that did have stickered versions inside the pack. Which clearly shows that some of these were at least distributed with them, but some of the harder to find stickered versions I have yet to see sealed in a 2 pack ( they only way found so far some of these harder to find books were distributed) 

Do any of you have images of a 2 pack sealed with a stickered version?

@Cpt Kirk

 I pulled a Superman 104 stickered version directly out of a sealed pack and made note of it at the time.  I do not have a record of seeing any stickered ones in a two-pack until the one that was shown above.

And to response to the question from @L.E. Gill I have only seen on 10-pack and that was the June 1995 pack.

[Cpt Kirk]

Here's a twist to the now-famous Revat DCU list.   Which of the following on this list are suspected but we have yet to see proof positive that they exist.  I have never seen Adv of Superman 530, Azrael 22, Superman Man of Steel 49, and Superman 95.  All 4 of those were thought to exist by Jerome Wenker, but I know for sure they were not in his collection (I personally inspected) and he could not produce evidence they existed.  He was the first to admit that there might have been errors on the list.   Perhaps the list could be annotated as follows:

 

 

Action Comics 684 3rd print, 686 2nd print, 695-710 (2 versions of 700), 712-715, 718, 722-726

 

Adventures Superman 498 4th print, 499 3rd print, 508-532, 535-540, Annual 8  (no proof 530 exists)

 

Animaniacs 1, 2, 4-7, 9-10, 14-16, 18, Christmas 1

 

Aquaman 1, 3-9, 21-24

 

Aquaman: Time & Tide 1-3

 

Azrael 15, 16, 19, 20, 22  (no proof Azrael 22 exists)

 

Batman 503-524 (515 has two versions), 526-527, 529, 531 (2 versions)-535,

 

Batman Annual 13, 20

 

Batman Adventures 17, 18, 33, 35-36

 

Batman Chronicles # 4

 

Batman & Robin Adventures 1, 3-5, 7, 8, 17

 

Batman Legends Dark Knight 62-63

 

Batman: Shadow of the Bat 25, 29, 30, 35, 38 ,48, 49, 52-57

 

Catwoman 5-7, 9, 11-13, 15-19, 31, 32, 36, Annual 2

 

Damage 0

 

DC vs Marvel #1, 4

 

Detective Comics 670-691 (675 and 682 have 2 versions), 694-704,

 

Detective Comics Annual 8-9

 

Flash 86-102 (100 has 2 versions), 104, 109-110, 114-117

 

Final night 1-4

 

Green Lantern # 36, 47(51 has 1st and 2nd print)-68, 70, 75-77, 79-81 (2 versions of 81),

 

Green Arrow 110-111

 

Guy Gardner 15-17, 26-27

 

Impulse 3, 10, 14-16

 

Impulse Annual 1

 

Justice League International 60-63, 67

 

Justice League of America 69 4th print,84-95, 97-99, 107-108, 112

 

Justice League Task Force 7, 17, 19, 20, 22, 23, 32

 

Legionnaires 10, 12, 16, 19-22, 25-26, 29, 33

 

Looney Tunes 2-6, 8-15

 

Nightwing 1, 2

 

Pinky & Brain 1

 

Parallax: Emerald Night # 1

 

Power of Shazam 1-4, 12, 16-17, 19

 

Robin 3-9, 11-22 (2 versions of 14), 25, 27-28, 30-35

 

Robin Annual 4-5

 

Showcase '94 1-10

 

Steel 1-15, 17, 23, 24, 28-29, 31

 

Superboy 1-16, 20, 23-24, 29-30, 32, Annual 3

Superboy and the Ravers 1-2

 

Supergirl (1994) #1-4

Supergirl (1996) #2-4

 

Superman 74 4th print, 77 3rd print, 85-106, 108-109, 113-118   (no proof 95 exists)

 

Superman Annual 6, 8

 

Superman Man Steel 18 5th print, 19 3rd print, 20 2nd print, 29-50, 52-53, 57-60, Annual 3   (no proof 49 exists)

 

Superman: The Man Of Tomorrow # 1, 5

 

Superman Doomsday: Hunter/Prey 1-3

 

Superman Wedding 1 (2 versions)

 

Superman Toyman 1

 

Sovereign Seven # 1

 

Where in the World is Carmen San Diego? #1

 

Wonder Woman 82, 84-93, 95-98, 101, 106

[L.E. Gill]

On 6/26/2022 at 11:16 AM, Cpt Kirk said:

Which of the following on this list are suspected but we have yet to see proof positive that they exist. 

This would be very helpful! I would like confirmation on the existence of Steel #23 which has been on this list since the beginning but I haven't seen a copy. There is an entry on comic realm for it with a thumbnail uploaded by user T.I.A. however, the same user also provided thumbnails of a DCU logo Batman Adventures  #18 (a bat signal logo upc of this issue has been confirmed, making a DCU less likely) and a thumbnail of the above mentioned Adventures of Superman #530 DCU that I suspect were generated based on a DCU list as opposed to made from actual scans. So I would like to know if anyone has Steel 23 DCU (and if anyone has a spare, PM me, lol).

[Cpt Kirk]

On 6/26/2022 at 4:11 PM, L.E. Gill said:

This would be very helpful! I would like confirmation on the existence of Steel #23 which has been on this list since the beginning but I haven't seen a copy. There is an entry on comic realm for it with a thumbnail uploaded by user T.I.A. however, the same user also provided thumbnails of a DCU logo Batman Adventures  #18 (a bat signal logo upc of this issue has been confirmed, making a DCU less likely) and a thumbnail of the above mentioned Adventures of Superman #530 DCU that I suspect were generated based on a DCU list as opposed to made from actual scans. So I would like to know if anyone has Steel 23 DCU (and if anyone has a spare, PM me, lol).

I have never seen the Steel 23, and the experts that I know have never seen it either.  In an email to me circa 2015, the godfather of DCU variants (Jerome Wenker) listed Steel 23 as questionable.

[L.E. Gill]

On 6/26/2022 at 11:11 AM, Cpt Kirk said:

  I do not have a record of seeing any stickered ones in a two-pack until the one that was shown above.

I picked that one up specifically for the 691 and didn't give much thought to the stickered 690 at the time; guess I am honor bound to leave it sealed now for posterity and variant science, lol.