OtherEric Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 5:50 AM, Scrooge said: Here's the Petunia - You get a bonus Porky Pig comics on the cover This is the one I had totally missed, even if I hadn't tracked the numbers on the others yet. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I think Petunia, Taz and Speedy were the only one shots. Heck even Sniffles got 2 outings in FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 A couple books today. Also thought I had a LTMM on the way, but when it arrived it was wrong interiors. It was cheap enough I'll keep it for parts but I'm still at 14 to go there. sagii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Nice pick ups! HA had a high grade copy FC 470 last week i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Australian issues group shot. OtherEric, AJD, IngelsFan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 And the second day of fall is Two's day for my collection... the second four color issues of four titles. And a Bugs Bunny special that somehow slipped in with the others: PopKulture and sagii 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 @OtherEric Good stuff as always. Love the sight gags on the Sylvester and Tweety covers OtherEric and Get Marwood & I 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJD Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 2:36 AM, sagii said: Australian issues group shot. Proper blokes' comics. sagii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 So, was looking at the listings for Four Color 918, since it's on my want list at the moment, and it seems likely it's the real first appearance of the Road Runner in comics even if the Vacation Parade story is first in story order. Was wondering which was the outlier: The low grade copies, or the slabbed 7.0. Because I can NOT make the prices reconcile in my head, unless there's just that much of a premium on books that hit upper mid grade with the Four Colors in general: IngelsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 1:03 PM, OtherEric said: So, was looking at the listings for Four Color 918, since it's on my want list at the moment, and it seems likely it's the real first appearance of the Road Runner in comics even if the Vacation Parade story is first in story order. Was wondering which was the outlier: The low grade copies, or the slabbed 7.0. Because I can NOT make the prices reconcile in my head, unless there's just that much of a premium on books that hit upper mid grade with the Four Colors in general: Can't remember when but HA also sold a Four Color 918 (earlier this year?) slabbed for about the same amount this eBay copy sold for. I think the raws folks were iffy about bidding it up? That vacation funnies was my under copy, recently scored a better raw copy I will slab. Also have doubles of the Looney Tunes that ties with Daffy 27 as first Pepe. I will post one of them on eBay sometime this week. OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 6:31 AM, sagii said: Can't remember when but HA also sold a Four Color 918 (earlier this year?) slabbed for about the same amount this eBay copy sold for. I think the raws folks were iffy about bidding it up? That vacation funnies was my under copy, recently scored a better raw copy I will slab. Also have doubles of the Looney Tunes that ties with Daffy 27 as first Pepe. I will post one of them on eBay sometime this week. I think it was the same book, they sold a 7.0 late last year for $660... and there's only one 7.0 on the census. I really don't get the BIN of 9.99 given that the listing says it's complete. I suppose I'll find out when it finally arrives, they took almost a week to send it. We really should put together a definitive list of the first appearances, I think we've discussed most of them. But they're scattered all over the thread. IngelsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 2:00 PM, OtherEric said: I think it was the same book, they sold a 7.0 late last year for $660... and there's only one 7.0 on the census. I really don't get the BIN of 9.99 given that the listing says it's complete. I suppose I'll find out when it finally arrives, they took almost a week to send it. We really should put together a definitive list of the first appearances, I think we've discussed most of them. But they're scattered all over the thread. Agreed! @Scrooge could be a big help as well. Waaaaay over due, then we can request CGC put these designations on the labels IngelsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 You guys made me curious what my copy looks like ... sagii and OtherEric 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 4:37 PM, Scrooge said: You guys made me curious what my copy looks like ... Still a gem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Starting to work on a list of first appearances, step #1 will be "Figure out what Looney Tunes characters are important enough to list", then I'll start tracking their first comic appearances. I hope to have an initial list of characters in a day or so for people to critique. On to today's books. I actually already have a copy of 838, it was actually my first ever Four Color issue. But a) I can't find it, and b) it's the ad back cover variant. So was worth a few bucks to get another copy. And the 1046 will come in handy the next time somebody asks me what foxing is. Scrooge and sagii 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) @OtherEric Looking forward to that list. Subset lists i'd like to explore after for Overtstreet and CGC label notations are: Covers that can be considered classic/notable Four Color books that count as #1 (or one-shots). First cover appearances And the golden age giveaways (aside from March of Comics which ran longer and into the 80's or at least late 70's i believe). Edited October 5, 2022 by sagii IngelsFan, OtherEric and mustang33guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/4/2022 at 6:10 PM, sagii said: @OtherEric Looking forward to that list. Subset lists i'd like to explore after for Overtstreet and CGC label notations are: Covers that can be considered classic/notable Four Color books that count as #1 (or one-shots). First cover appearances And the golden age giveaways (aside from March of Comics which ran longer and into the 80's or at least late 70's i believe). Here's step #1: Steal the character list from Wikipedia, remove a couple names I don't consider worth bothering with, and add a couple that I feel do deserve mention. Removal examples: I don't think Penelope Pussycat or K9 warrant mention outside of Pepe or Marvin the Martian's orbit, for example... and I'm reasonably sure neither of them appear in comics until much later, if at all. Pretty sure Marvin doesn't show until the bronze age at the earliest, if not the DC run, but he deserves his spot on the list. Addition examples: Bosko and Ralph Phillips. Bosko didn't show up in comics until after he was no longer with Warner Brothers, but I think he might count as the first LT character in comics with the Funnies #30. I'm not sure if there was ever a Ralph Phillips comic appearance, but I like the character too much to not have them on the list. Anyway, here's my initial list of characters, I'm basically looking for feedback on anybody who should be added to or removed from the list. In general, I think we should err in favor of inclusiveness, although as seen above even then I'm not sure some names need to be on the list. If the character didn't make a GA or SA appearance that we can determine we can later remove them from the master list unless they're major, like Marvin the Martian. Once we have that we can start nailing down first appearances, first cover appearances, first solo books (both as part of the Four Color series and as separate titles), and first headlining appearances, instead of as a supporting character or guest in somebody else's story. Thank you all in advance. Barnyard Dawg Beaky Buzzard Bosko Buddy Bugs Bunny Blacque Jacque Shellacque Cecil Turtle Charlie Dog Colonel Shuffle Daffy Duck Duck Dodgers Elmer Fudd Foghorn Leghorn Claude Cat Mac and Tash Gossamer Granny Hector the Bulldog Henery Hawk Hubie and Bertie Hugo the Abominable Snowman Lola Bunny Marc Antony and Pussyfoot Marvin the Martian Melissa Duck Michigan J. Frog Nasty Canasta Playboy Penguin Penelope Pussycat Pepé Le Pew Pete Puma Petunia Pig Porky Pig Ralph Phillips Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog Road Runner Rocky and Mugsy Slowpoke Rodriguez Sniffles Speedy Gonzales Sylvester the Cat Spike the Bulldog and Chester the Terrier Tasmanian Devil Tweety Wile E. Coyote Witch Hazel Yosemite Sam And one final question for anybody who makes it this far: does Duck Dodgers deserve a separate spot on the list from Daffy in general? That's the only persona I can think of that would deserve a separate, distinct entry from the main character... and even then I don't think they showed until the DC era, although I could be wrong. Edited October 6, 2022 by OtherEric added names Treco, sagii, IngelsFan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/6/2022 at 2:25 AM, OtherEric said: Here's step #1: Steal the character list from Wikipedia, remove a couple names I don't consider worth bothering with, and add a couple that I feel do deserve mention. Removal examples: I don't think Penelope Pussycat or K9 warrant mention outside of Pepe or Marvin the Martian's orbit, for example... and I'm reasonably sure neither of them appear in comics until much later, if at all. Pretty sure Marvin doesn't show until the bronze age at the earliest, if not the DC run, but he deserves his spot on the list. Addition examples: Bosko and Ralph Phillips. Bosko didn't show up in comics until after he was no longer with Warner Brothers, but I think he might count as the first LT character in comics with the Funnies #30. I'm not sure if there was ever a Ralph Phillips comic appearance, but I like the character too much to not have them on the list. Anyway, here's my initial list of characters, I'm basically looking for feedback on anybody who should be added to or removed from the list. In general, I think we should err in favor of inclusiveness, although as seen above even then I'm not sure some names need to be on the list. If the character didn't make a GA or SA appearance that we can determine we can later remove them from the master list unless they're major, like Marvin the Martian. Once we have that we can start nailing down first appearances, first cover appearances, first solo books (both as part of the Four Color series and as separate titles), and first headlining appearances, instead of as a supporting character or guest in somebody else's story. Thank you all in advance. Barnyard Dawg Beaky Buzzard Bosko Buddy Bugs Bunny Blacque Jacque Shellacque Cecil Turtle Charlie Dog Colonel Shuffle Daffy Duck Elmer Fudd Foghorn Leghorn Claude Cat Mac and Tash Gossamer Granny Hector the Bulldog Henery Hawk Hubie and Bertie Hugo the Abominable Snowman Lola Bunny Marc Antony and Pussyfoot Marvin the Martian Melissa Duck Michigan J. Frog Nasty Canasta Playboy Penguin Pepé Le Pew Pete Puma Petunia Pig Porky Pig Ralph Phillips Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog Road Runner Rocky and Mugsy Slowpoke Rodriguez Sniffles Speedy Gonzales Sylvester the Cat Spike the Bulldog and Chester the Terrier Tasmanian Devil Tweety Wile E. Coyote Witch Hazel Yosemite Sam And one final question for anybody who makes it this far: does Duck Dodgers deserve a separate spot on the list from Daffy in general? That's the only persona I can think of that would deserve a separate, distinct entry from the main chara )cter... and even then I don't think they showed until the DC era, although I could be wrong. Great list (even some i would have missed ) Yes Duck Dodgers deserves a spot on the list (even a mention of Daffy's 1st headlining story within the LTMM series, as he wasn't utilized much on the covers during the golden age). I vote that Penelope deserves a nod, even if it didn't come until the DC series. Very important element to the shorts she appears in. Glad to see Lola made the list. The character has two bands of loyal followers (cosplay women of all ages), and the other, well lets leave that one alone . Some evidence going by appearances alone, Honey Bunny was a prototype of sorts. Edited October 6, 2022 by sagii IngelsFan and OtherEric 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/6/2022 at 7:02 AM, sagii said: Great list (even some i would have missed ) Yes Duck Dodgers deserves a spot on the list (even a mention of Daffy's 1st headlining story within the LTMM series, as he wasn't utilized much on the covers during the golden age). I vote that Penelope deserves a nod, even if it didn't come until the DC series. Very important element to the shorts she appears in. Glad to see Lola made the list. The character has two bands of loyal followers (cosplay women of all ages), and the other, well lets leave that one alone . Some evidence going by appearances alone, Honey Bunny was a prototype of sorts. Like I said, I pretty much stole the list right from Wikipedia as a starting point. Per your comments I've added Penelope and Duck Dodgers to the list again. I was already planning to mention the 1st Honey as a Lola prototype when I got to that stage. Edited October 6, 2022 by OtherEric IngelsFan and sagii 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) Finally in today. If this is what the seller considers fair/ good I'll take all they've got, looks closer to a VG to me. On the pricing front, there's an 8.0 on the bay right now for $595 BIN... I wonder how long that will last. I would have found one that was just the Road Runner credits, but this is the version I grew up with. Edited October 7, 2022 by OtherEric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
