StuporMan Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 A lot of important characters to the Marvel Universe have made their first debuts in comic magazines. Often, that character's continuity in the universe doesn't coincide with their comic book equivalent. That made me curious; what is more important, a characters 1st appearance in comic mag or comic book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Comic themed magazines can still be a part of the comic universe continuity. I vote for the first app, wherever it occurs. I don't subscribe to "first comic book appearance" wildly_fanciful_statement when the true first app is in a magazine, as is the case with Starlord and Rocket Raccoon. Hulk 271 is the 2nd appearance of RR. Marvel Spotlight (vol2) # 6 is the 2nd appearance of Starlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuporMan Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Comic themed magazines can still be a part of the comic universe continuity. I vote for the first app, wherever it occurs. I don't subscribe to "first comic book appearance" wildly_fanciful_statement when the true first app is in a magazine, as is the case with Starlord and Rocket Raccoon. Hulk 271 is the 2nd appearance of RR. Marvel Spotlight (vol2) # 6 is the 2nd appearance of Starlord. Curious, would you consider a character's true first appearance in a book or pulp as their first appearance? Or does it have to be drawn along with the story - not just cover art. Conan and the Shadow come to mind as possibilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 A first appearance is a first appearance regardless of comic or mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Comic themed magazines can still be a part of the comic universe continuity. I vote for the first app, wherever it occurs. I don't subscribe to "first comic book appearance" wildly_fanciful_statement when the true first app is in a magazine, as is the case with Starlord and Rocket Raccoon. Hulk 271 is the 2nd appearance of RR. Marvel Spotlight (vol2) # 6 is the 2nd appearance of Starlord. Curious, would you consider a character's true first appearance in a book or pulp as their first appearance? Or does it have to be drawn along with the story - not just cover art. Conan and the Shadow come to mind as possibilities... A pulp or book is a different animal than a comic book story, so no. And when you get right down to it, comic magazines are just larger format comic books. Look at Marvel Preview, or Epic Illustrated, for example. They are comic books only bigger. Not to mention that comic book publishers referred to their comics are "Comic Magazines" for decades. When you take that into account, the distinction between comic "book" and comic "magazine" seems even less important. Less important to me anyway. I know some will not agree with that. steveinthecity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 In the case or Rocket (Rocky) Raccoon, some people consider the Marvel Preview character to be a prototype. However, most of the collecting community doesn't feel that way. Neither does Overstreet or CGC. That may change over time as opinions change however it's not the majority case right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 A first appearance is a first appearance regardless of comic or mag. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Man-Thing's first appearance is in Savage Tales #1. Never been disputed by anyone. Jasonmorris1000000 and serling1978 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian48 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 A first appearance is a first appearance regardless of comic or mag. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian48 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Can't wait for Man-thing to take off. Long over due Jasonmorris1000000 and Nick H (UK) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Comic themed magazines can still be a part of the comic universe continuity. I vote for the first app, wherever it occurs. I don't subscribe to "first comic book appearance" wildly_fanciful_statement when the true first app is in a magazine, as is the case with Starlord and Rocket Raccoon. Hulk 271 is the 2nd appearance of RR. Marvel Spotlight (vol2) # 6 is the 2nd appearance of Starlord. Curious, would you consider a character's true first appearance in a book or pulp as their first appearance? Or does it have to be drawn along with the story - not just cover art. Conan and the Shadow come to mind as possibilities... A pulp or book is a different animal than a comic book story, so no. And when you get right down to it, comic magazines are just larger format comic books. Look at Marvel Preview, or Epic Illustrated, for example. They are comic books only bigger. Not to mention that comic book publishers referred to their comics are "Comic Magazines" for decades. When you take that into account, the distinction between comic "book" and comic "magazine" seems even less important. Less important to me anyway. I know some will not agree with that. To me, apart from the size, exactly the same material and so no difference. On par with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Can't wait for Man-thing to take off. Long over due Man Thing rocks! piper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Zero Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 magazines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defx Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 What about Foom 15 This beast has the first Captain Britain, first Ms Marvel, and now I just read somewhere that it's also the first Star Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Broke as a Joke Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 What about Foom 15 This beast has the first Captain Britain, first Ms Marvel, and now I just read somewhere that it's also the first Star Wars What is the Star Wars content in Foom 15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuporMan Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Also didn't this Foom just auction on ComicLink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrjr Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) More people need to be collecting the Previews magazine. Tons of 1st appearances in those if we are going to start considering these magazines as 1st appearances. People do know these Foom magazines are not comic books, correct? I get the 1st Rocket Raccoon because of the comic book story. But this Foom magazine is just full of articles and ads, not comics. Edited April 20, 2016 by rjrjr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3319comics Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Captain Britain #8 http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Britain_Vol_1_8 Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock (First appearance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fett Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Comic themed magazines can still be a part of the comic universe continuity. I vote for the first app, wherever it occurs. I don't subscribe to "first comic book appearance" wildly_fanciful_statement when the true first app is in a magazine, as is the case with Starlord and Rocket Raccoon. Hulk 271 is the 2nd appearance of RR. Marvel Spotlight (vol2) # 6 is the 2nd appearance of Starlord. Curious, would you consider a character's true first appearance in a book or pulp as their first appearance? Or does it have to be drawn along with the story - not just cover art. Conan and the Shadow come to mind as possibilities... A pulp or book is a different animal than a comic book story, so no. And when you get right down to it, comic magazines are just larger format comic books. Look at Marvel Preview, or Epic Illustrated, for example. They are comic books only bigger. Not to mention that comic book publishers referred to their comics are "Comic Magazines" for decades. When you take that into account, the distinction between comic "book" and comic "magazine" seems even less important. Less important to me anyway. I know some will not agree with that. for some reason Marvel started putting this at the top of the front cover of their flagship title back in November of 1961... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
