PovertyRow Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Sure Ken! By all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARVEL MANIAC-migration Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 wow, you guys really know your stuff. what kind of glue and paint for color touch are considered professional? the real question is what are the easiest to actually locate and purchase thru a regular store outlet (without having to purchase online) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centipede Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 This might be the best thread I've ever read through on the site. Full of valuable and interesting information. Povertyrow, you deserve a special thanks for having so much to offer, so thank you on behalf of all the people reading your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFL-migration Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I agree 110%. Excellent information. It is very much appreciated. A lot of time, effort, money has/can/will be needed to be able to be good at detecting restoration. Thanks to all that have added to this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 So POV, I see you on the left, but who's that guy on the right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFL-migration Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I thought that was you Divad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Restoration Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Hi, I am a comic book restorer and new here at the forums so I wanted to say Hi and show you a little before after of dry cleaning to get started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Hi, I am a comic book restorer and new here at the forums so I wanted to say Hi and show you a little before after of dry cleaning to get started. Welcome to the boards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan57 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Just posting an encapsualtion of some of the things I have posted here. This was from an article I had written in 2006. Made some updates, edited it, removed some outdated info. Thanks povertyrow and Ze-man for the high level of information and discussion you have provided in this thread. I checked in just to scan the new posts and have literally lost an hour to a review of the discussion. It was an hour well-lost. (thumbs u I quoted a small section of an earlier post, povertyrow, just to ask out of curiousity, if you have the time, what information did you believe had become outdated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze-man Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I agree, this and other threads was where I first cut my teeth in learning what restoration actually is, and is among the best resources on the web that discuss it. It's one thing to show examples of poorly done, or obvious restoration. And another to try and show/discuss the types of things people need to know in spotting resatoration when buying comics. The types of things that go unoticed until they get their book back in a PLOD. And your post reminds me I have a lot of stuff to upload that show examples of spotting CT, staples replaced and different types of spine reinforcement. Just need to find the time to get it all written up! And while I dont want to speak for Pov I think his "out dated" comment was more about some restoration processes having changed since he dabbled in resto years ago. Every time we speak it is always interesting to see which ones have remained unchanged, and where others evolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Restoration Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 That is a really nice illustration of tear seal. I wanted to know who I could order that type of paper from. If you could tell me Ze-man that would be great I like mine but I could use that kind too. That youtube video on pressing is funny. I am new to the comic restoration industry and suprised how heated of a topic Restoration is. I am a believer that if is considered restoration it should be disclosed. I can see there is a disagrement on what is considered restoration . I am Good with going with the majority on those matters as I am not interested in creating a waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited66 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 So I'm a little confused, I thought dry cleaning was "not restoration"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Restoration Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Unlikely that your confused. More likely I am. I got excited I guess. Sorry about that. Although I dont think Dry cleaning is restoration there are many professionals who do . To me dry cleaning is like washing your car if its been drivin. If the comic is read and sits on a desk for any period of time the bottom will pick up dirt. You should be able to maintain it without it being restoration. I'm kinda a car guy so when I think of restoration I think of fixing dents and and paint not cleaning. Not sure about pressing but as long as the majority doesn't call it restoration I'm cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostalgic Attic Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Not sure about pressing but as long as the majority doesn't call it restoration I'm cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited66 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Unlikely that your confused. More likely I am. I got excited I guess. Sorry about that. Although I dont think Dry cleaning is restoration there are many professionals who do . To me dry cleaning is like washing your car if its been drivin. If the comic is read and sits on a desk for any period of time the bottom will pick up dirt. You should be able to maintain it without it being restoration. I'm kinda a car guy so when I think of restoration I think of fixing dents and and paint not cleaning. Not sure about pressing but as long as the majority doesn't call it restoration I'm cool with that. It wasn't just your post that I was referring to, an earlier post also discussed dry cleaning. I guess there's probably a general disagreement about whether its resto or not, I sure the principles of full disclosure would mean dry cleaning should be disclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze-man Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I think if an entire cover was dry cleaned that should be disclosed and is borderline restorative. As opposed to if somebody swipes a few times on the BC spine of a book, that is so minor as to not really bother me. But that's just me. And MasterCPU, look up...University Products, or Talas Online for all kinds of archival supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Restoration Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Nice links Ze-man thanks alot. So it seems like there is a few restores here at the CGC boards. Information seems to be shared more freely here which I like alot. I am also a new member of NOD. Did you do that tear seal yourself Ze-man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze-man Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Yup, I had been asked by enough people in PM's about it that I tore a reader comic to take those photos. It served as good enough example to illustrate what a tear seal looks like, both the professional kind and the kind that might be sealed to deceive. There is indeed a great wealth of knowledge on these boards, dozens of people with a lot of restoration detection expertise and I am honestly baffled why more of them don't share what they know in this sub forum, even if it's redundant. Ya just can't have too much good info. Guess it's boring stuff to most funny book fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Restoration Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Speaking of which I have this one glue made from methyl cellulose that doesnt leave a shine behind when done but it is also a little fussier and seems to show slightly different shade if paper is not white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze-man Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 While Methyl Cellulose can be used as a binding or fixative. Try a wheat starch based glue. It acts much more like real glue compared to cellulose which is mainly used as a sizing agent. And since both are water soluble , I would go with the stronger one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
