Weird Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 A series that went through a lot of changes, almost with each new issue: I don't think I have any Marvel bronze war books. Were the changes thematic or talent-wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 (edited) very cool--so is this like the first unmasking of the Unknown Soldier? I read the title in the 80s and never saw him unmasked. I loved war books as well but my concentration during my readership days was primarily G.I. Combat, Sgt Rock, and Unknown Soldier. I think it is, but no one has confirmed it and I cannot find it in the guide - maybe I am just blind. Star Spangled War Stories turns into The Unknown Soldier with issue 205. Our Army At War turns into Sgt. Rock with #302. They keep the numbering from the previous title. Here's my copy of US 205. Great dark Kubert cover. Big chip out of the right edge, it's still hangin on though. Edited March 29, 2005 by Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathlok Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 A series that went through a lot of changes, almost with each new issue: I don't think I have any Marvel bronze war books. Were the changes thematic or talent-wise? Mostly in the content. It started out reprinting some GA stories, then they moved on to reprinting Sgt Fury sotries, and finally it changed to a horror title. All in the span of a dozen or so issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Up late and bored, so here are some of the more interesting G.I. Combat covers I have: G.I. Combat 245 G.I. Combat 260 G.I. Combat 287 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Here's the first appearance of the Ninja. I am putting together a short list of some of the key bronze issues. I'll post it and see if what else people can add. I do not have anywhere near all of them, so I may be off. I am sure there has to be some Big 5 fans on the board who continued with the titles that were left in the 70s/early 80s. I'd like to devote more attention to these books, but that damned bronze horror keeps pulling me back. G.I. Combat 232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Re-imaged my SSWS 151 as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonker Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 (edited) To go along with what I think is the first issue of the unmasked Unknown Soldier (let me know if I am wrong in this assumption - I don't have the complete run and Overstreet doesn't indicate any particular issue), Yes, it is! Nice work from Gerry Talaoc. The story is pretty brutal too. The US has to cap a Jewish girl at point blank range to keep his identity secret. I thought the death was going to be a trick or something, but no - he killed her to make sure his mission which included saving innocents wasn't exposed. As much as I love most everything Archie Goodwin did, his previous tenure on Star-Spangled War continued the silly convention of never showing the US face. It was silly because at the inevitable unmasking moment in the story, you'd have US pulling off his mask, to reveal layers and layers of bandages underneath! I mean, I'm willing to buy the implausibility of the "Mission:Impossible" plastic face mask, but never could get past the stack-up of face + rolls of bandages + mask. When Orlando took over the book as editor, he brought in David Michelinie as scripter, who really kicked things up a notch. I first read one of the Michelinie/Talaoc US stories in the Fireside Books' America at War reprint: I was struck how authentically brutal Michelinie's stories were for a mid-1970s book. Great stuff! Edited March 29, 2005 by Zonker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 (edited) To go along with what I think is the first issue of the unmasked Unknown Soldier (let me know if I am wrong in this assumption - I don't have the complete run and Overstreet doesn't indicate any particular issue), Yes, it is! Sweet, thanks for confirming. I wish OS would break that out/indicate it somewhere. For instance, it seems more important than some of the Enemy Ace reprint info they list in the run. They do list a lot of good stuff for bronze war though. I quickly went through the new OS and the Big 5 guide I think I mentioned earlier (along with checking out Mike's DC Cover Gallery) and jotted down some quick issue info for important DC bronze war (and related) books. It turned out to be quite a bit and I am sure I missed stuff, so let me know where I erred and what I missed. One thing, I'm sure there is some comic age crossover with some of the books. The list makes me realize how few of these issues I currently have. Blitzkreig 1 Begin WWII through enemy's perspective Brave & the Bold 96 Rock/Batman Last 15 cent issue Brave & the Bold 108 Rock/Batman Brave & the Bold 117 Rock/Batman 100 Pager Brave & the Bold 124 Rock/Batman Aparo Cover Brave & the Bold 146 US/Batman Brave & the Bold 162 Rock/Batman - Iron Major appearance Brave & the Bold 167 Blackhawk/Batman DC Comics Presents 10 Rock/Superman DC Comics Presents 42 US/Superman DC Comics Presents 69 Blackhawk/Superman DC-9 Rock 100 Pager (OAAW 242) DC-16 Rock 100 Pager DC Special 26 Enemy Ace DC Special Series 3 Rock DC Special Series 8 B&B Batman/Rock DC Special Series 13 Rock DC Special Series 18 Rock Prize Battle Tales DC Special Series 22 G.I. Combat DC Super-Stars 15 Rock/US Detective 502 Death(?) of Mlle. Marie GI Combat 138 Intro Losers -- 10/69 GI Combat 139 Jeb Gets Married GI Combat 150 Death of Haunted Tank, Ice Cream Soldier name explanation GI Combat 162 Death of Arch Asher GI Combat 168 Adams Cover GI Combat 201 Adams Cover GI Combat 202 Adams Cover GI Combat 203 Re-telling of Origin of Haunted Tank GI Combat 232 1st Kana, the Ninja GI Combat 242 1st Mercenaries (OS incorrectly states 244 as their first appearance) GI Combat 244 Death of Slim Stryker, Anniversary Issue GI Combat 264, 265 Origin Kana GI Combat 269 1st Bravos of Vietnam GI Combat 274 Monitor from Crisis cameo Men of War 1 Origin Gravedigger Men of War 4 1st Dateline Frontline Men of War 9 US Appearance Men of War 17 1st Rosa Men of War 26 Sgt. Rock Our Army At War 238 1st Horace Smith OAAW 240 Adams art OAAW 242 100 Page Super Spectacular 9 OAAW 251-253 Return of Iron Major OAAW 267 Rock gets a kiss [i guess this was a noteworthy thing for Big 5 fans] OAAW 273 Crucifixion cover OAAW 280 200th Rock appearance OAAW 295 Bi-centennial cover Our Fighting Forces 146 Classic Toth art OFF 147 Adams cover OFF 151-162 Kirby OFF 181 1st Falcon Sgt. Rock 302 First Issue in Title, Anzio (through 304) Sgt. Rock 310 Baby Story Sgt. Rock 325-326 Future Kill Sgt. Rock 329 Scarce Whitman variant exists Sgt. Rock 339 D-Day Sgt. Rock 345 Iron Major Sgt. Rock 348 Zack loses an arm Sgt. Rock 349 The Dummy Sgt. Rock 359 Iron Major Sgt. Rock 422 Joe, Adam, Andy Kubert team Star Spangled War Stories 151 Begin Unknown Soldier in Title SSWS 154 Origin Unknown Soldier SSWS 157 Sgt. Rock crossover SSWS 164 Origin Retold SSWS 183 US Exposed SSWS 200 Enemy Ace SSWS 204 Last Issue of Title Unknown Soldier 205 First Issue in Title Unknown Soldier 219 Miller art Unknown Soldier 250 Rock Appearance Unknown Soldier 268 Death of Unknown Soldier Weird War 1 1st Issue Weird War 64 1st Miller DC work Weird War 68 2nd Miller DC work Weird War 93 1st Creature Commandos Weird War 101 1st G.I. Robot Edited March 30, 2005 by Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Here are some other related titles: All-Out War 1 Origins Viking Commando, Force Three Army At War 1 New material Blackhawk 244 Re-launch 1976 Blackhawk 251 Re-launch 1982 Battle Classics Reprints -- 1 issue Boy Commandos Reprints -- 2 issues Four Star Battle Tales Reprints -- 5 Issues GI War Tales Reprints -- 4 issues *note* I think Army at War and Battle Classics also have material included in the Cancelled Comic Cavalcade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Ack! That GI 245 DOLLAR COMIC!!!!!!! Must seek it. Dang you for expanding my DC BA to this title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 (edited) Detective 502 Death(?) of Mlle. Marie This is an odd one. It's the second part of a two parter (I only have the second part) in which it turns out that Bruce Wayne's butler, Alfred, was knocking the proverbial boots with Mlle. Marie back in the day. It goes into a whole thing about Mlle. Marie possibly drowning right after, but not until after she gave birth to their love child. Don't know if this storyline has been brought up anywhere else in the DC universe. Wild, wacky early 80s DC stuff... Edited March 30, 2005 by Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 (edited) Here are some other related titles: Army At War 1 New material Battle Classics Reprints -- 1 issue *note* I think Army at War and Battle Classics also have material included in the Cancelled Comic Cavalcade. I just looked them up and CCC #2 has the covers to issue 2 of AAW and issue 3 of Battle Classics. Here's my AAW 1: Edited March 30, 2005 by Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Ack! That GI 245 DOLLAR COMIC!!!!!!! Must seek it. Dang you for expanding my DC BA to this title. I do love the DC Dollar G.I. Combats though. What a cool looking format, just hellish to find in NM. Here's a few more. G.I. Combat 217 G.I. Combat 231 (I guess you could call this a "money shot" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Not a Dollar Comic, but still cool looking. G.I. Combat 280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awe4one Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 GI Combat #147 Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Not a Dollar Comic, but still cool looking. G.I. Combat 280 That's an awesome Kubert cover! You could toss this one over on the Infinite BA Horror thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Stop it! Stop showing those cool GI Combat Horror covers!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeyourlemons Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Ack! That GI 245 DOLLAR COMIC!!!!!!! Must seek it. Dang you for expanding my DC BA to this title. That's what I'm saying. Definitely looks like a WWT cover to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Ack! That GI 245 DOLLAR COMIC!!!!!!! Must seek it. Dang you for expanding my DC BA to this title. That's what I'm saying. Definitely looks like a WWT cover to me Man, doesn't it?! Just beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Stop it! Stop showing those cool GI Combat Horror covers!!!!!!!! I don't have this one yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
