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SPIDER-MAN 2 from Marvel & Sony (7/5/19)
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Bosco685

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5 hours ago, Callaway29 said:

Last I remember most theories were the creatures being products of mysterio, and he was playing everyone. This suggests otherwise... It essentially disapproves where most thought this was going, and supports what we’ve seen in the trailer(s) at face value. That’s something...

Exactly how it went over from the sounds you hear from the crowd.

Though it would be interesting if the MCU starts using Holland's gaffes to feed him misinformation to throw people off the real story.

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7 hours ago, chezmtghut said:

The trailer portrays Mysterio as a friend & Holland confirms that, which is not a spoiler imo. Not sure why theories would even factor into the mix. Also, just because Holland says that Mysterio is his new best friend, doesn't mean the story ends on that same note. I would think the Vulture, Scorpion & Mysterio will eventually become part of the Sinister Six.

I should have said “leaks” instead of theories. Regardless, I get it...didn’t mean much to you, but meant something to me.

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On 5/8/2019 at 11:00 AM, Hawkman said:

Yes, we lap up change and yes, we lap up entertainment. You should try it sometime.

I guess the change is the Iron Man tech is now inside the Spider-Man costume?  So this different direction is ... Iron Boy?  How about a different direction that resembles the character in the comic book?

You didn't need to add Tony Stark and his tech (although we know why they did it, Iron Man is popular so ... more of the same which makes this different direction ironic), just tell new stories that include the myriad of characters that have appeared over the years.  Chameleon, Kraven, Kingpin, Scorpion, Jackal, Tombstone, John Jameson, Black Cat, etc.  There is still a lot of ground to cover IMHO.

I hope the new movie jettison's the Iron Man connection and we actually see Spider-Man and not Iron Boy II.  <fingers crossed>

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20 hours ago, rjrjr said:

I guess the change is the Iron Man tech is now inside the Spider-Man costume?  So this different direction is ... Iron Boy?  How about a different direction that resembles the character in the comic book?

You didn't need to add Tony Stark and his tech (although we know why they did it, Iron Man is popular so ... more of the same which makes this different direction ironic), just tell new stories that include the myriad of characters that have appeared over the years.  Chameleon, Kraven, Kingpin, Scorpion, Jackal, Tombstone, John Jameson, Black Cat, etc.  There is still a lot of ground to cover IMHO.

I hope the new movie jettison's the Iron Man connection and we actually see Spider-Man and not Iron Boy II.  <fingers crossed>

Do you really not know that Spider-Man + Iron Man tech = Iron Spider..?

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Not a spoiler, just an unfounded 4chan "leak" for spider-man 3...but to be safe:

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*Film is titled Home Sweet Home

*Releasing in Theaters July 2021

*Paul Rudd reprises his role as Ant-Man, expected to have a role similar to Tony Stark in Homecoming or Fury in Far From Home

*Harry Osborne will play a part in the film, with the studio looking for a 15-20 year old for the role.

*Zendaya won't appear because her schedule is really filled up 

*Hugh Jackman is cast as Kraven the Hunter

*Tom Hardy appears as Venom for a while, similar to Doctor Strange in Thor: Ragnarok

*Bob Odenkirk plays Peter's new principal Mr. Marko

*Marisa Tomei, Jon Favreau, Samuel L Jackson all reprise their roles from the other Spidey MCU Films. 

*David Morrissey reprises his role as Norman Osborne from the after credits of FFH in a small but pivotal role.

 

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14 minutes ago, Callaway29 said:

Not a spoiler, just an unfounded 4chan "leak" for spider-man 3...but to be safe:

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*Film is titled Home Sweet Home

*Releasing in Theaters July 2021

*Paul Rudd reprises his role as Ant-Man, expected to have a role similar to Tony Stark in Homecoming or Fury in Far From Home

*Harry Osborne will play a part in the film, with the studio looking for a 15-20 year old for the role.

*Zendaya won't appear because her schedule is really filled up 

*Hugh Jackman is cast as Kraven the Hunter

*Tom Hardy appears as Venom for a while, similar to Doctor Strange in Thor: Ragnarok

*Bob Odenkirk plays Peter's new principal Mr. Marko

*Marisa Tomei, Jon Favreau, Samuel L Jackson all reprise their roles from the other Spidey MCU Films. 

*David Morrissey reprises his role as Norman Osborne from the after credits of FFH in a small but pivotal role.

 

hm

Today is a chin scratching day.

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On 6/9/2019 at 1:28 PM, rjrjr said:

I guess the change is the Iron Man tech is now inside the Spider-Man costume?  So this different direction is ... Iron Boy?  How about a different direction that resembles the character in the comic book?

You didn't need to add Tony Stark and his tech (although we know why they did it, Iron Man is popular so ... more of the same which makes this different direction ironic), just tell new stories that include the myriad of characters that have appeared over the years.  Chameleon, Kraven, Kingpin, Scorpion, Jackal, Tombstone, John Jameson, Black Cat, etc.  There is still a lot of ground to cover IMHO.

I hope the new movie jettison's the Iron Man connection and we actually see Spider-Man and not Iron Boy II.  <fingers crossed>

I'm with @TwoPiece on this.

The Iron Spidey suit has been around in the comics for more than 10 years. Believe it was introduced just before Civil War.

See Amazing Spider-Man # 529 from 2006.

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On 6/9/2019 at 1:28 PM, rjrjr said:

I guess the change is the Iron Man tech is now inside the Spider-Man costume?  So this different direction is ... Iron Boy?  How about a different direction that resembles the character in the comic book?

You didn't need to add Tony Stark and his tech (although we know why they did it, Iron Man is popular so ... more of the same which makes this different direction ironic), just tell new stories that include the myriad of characters that have appeared over the years.  Chameleon, Kraven, Kingpin, Scorpion, Jackal, Tombstone, John Jameson, Black Cat, etc.  There is still a lot of ground to cover IMHO.

I hope the new movie jettison's the Iron Man connection and we actually see Spider-Man and not Iron Boy II.  <fingers crossed>

I can’t believe people really believe Disney/Marvel/Sony are going to change the most popular comic book character in the world into a junior version of Iron Man. NO, Spider-Man, whose familiar red and blue costume adorns thousands of school kids backpacks and Marvel’s  general advertising,  is not going to be known henceforth as Iron Spider with a shiny metal suit and creepy legs sticking out of his back. Not.Going.To.Happen.

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Imagine a world where Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) dabbled in biology enough to try creating a super-spider capable of super...things. Then imagine that super-spider somehow escaped Tony's possession and ended up biting Peter Parker (Tom Holland), giving him his power set. Seems bizarre, right? One interesting fan theory has pitched the idea and with a bit of supporting evidence, it at least — kind of — makes sense.

 

The basis of the theory is the fact there's been a tease circulating a major Stark "secret" will be unveiled at some point throughout Far From Home and u/ImpulsiveBeetle (Reddit member) suggests the secret will involve the revelation Stark inadvertently gave Peter his powers. The theorist suggests that at some point, Stark got involved in genetic enhancement, perhaps as another way to stop otherworldly threats in the wake of The Avengers' Battle of New York. Perhaps Parker was on a school field trip to a Stark facility and that's how the bite happened...or perhaps that somehow, the spider simply left the confines of Stark Tower and found its way to Queens.

 

It's certainly a peculiar theory and would add an incredible amount of complexity to the relationship between Parker and Stark, especially in the wake of the latter's death in Avengers: Endgame. Then again, that could be the reason why Parker has looked up to Stark so much. If he had gotten bitten at a Stark facility, that'd put him in the mindset of wanting to learn more about the technology and processes involved.

 

The theorist even goes deeper and suggests that Stark and Norman Osborn had co-opted the experiment, which is how Osborn will be introduced to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

 

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  • movie begins immediately after Endgame

  • Sony/Columbia Pictures, then a quick montage of news clips covering Tony Stark's death and people returning from the snap

  • People in New York City are confused and somewhat in a panic due to everyone suddenly coming back

  • Peter is crying in his bedroom, Aunt May comes in and has a talk with him and manages to lift his spirits somewhat

  • Peter puts on the Iron Spider suit and begins swinging around

  • Stan Lee Marvel intro from Captain Marvel is back, unfortunately Stan was unable to film a cameo before his passing

  • We see Mysterio in a room, with several diagrams on his wall. He seems to be trying to figure out how to get back to his dimension, he decides to contact Nick Fury

  • Spider-Man is thanked for being a hero, a restaurant is then attacked by generic burglars, Peter swings into action

  • Cue action sequence in the trailer that ends with Spider-Man being asked if he's going to be the next Iron Man

  • Peter has decided to go on a school field trip to try and relieve his PTSD

  • Aunt May asks Peter to pack his suit, he nearly breaks down at the sight of his original suit, and decides he will not be Spider-Man on the trip

  • Peter leaves for the airport, there he sees that May put the suit in his suitcase

  • Peter and his friends go to Venice, everything is going well until Nick Fury shows up to recruit Peter

  • Nick Fury introduces Peter to Mysterio, It's explained he's been in this dimension for 5 years since the initial Thanos snap

  • Despite Nick and Maria Hill practically begging Peter to join them, he tells them to get and leaves

  • The next day, Peter is having fun with his friends until the first elemental monster, water shows up and attacks civilians, Peter swings into action without his suit. He gets his kicked, Mysterio shows up to save the day and take the monster out. Peter agrees to join him and Nick Fury.

  • Happy Hogan travels to Venice to investigate what's happening with Peter and Nick Fury. After a discussion with Fury and Hill, Happy decides to help.

  • He has a discussion with Peter on one of Stark's jets, Peter is upset about Tony again.

  • Happy says that Tony wouldn't have made the ultimate sacrifice, if Peter wasn't there to carry on his legacy

  • Peter uses the tech to build his own Spider-Man suit

  • Peter and his friends then travel to Prague

  • Fury gives Peter the S.H.I.E.L.D. stealth suit

  • That night, Prague is attacked by the second elemental, fire. Peter can't fight it and is nearly killed, Mysterio tries to take it down, but it runs away and wreaks havoc throughout the whole city

  • The city is evacuated, Peter and his friends included.

  • Next location is London. Everything goes smoothly for a day until the 3rd elemental, lava shows up and towers over the bridge Peter's friends are on. Mysterio tries to fight it, but is overpowered and knocked into the ocean. They manage to get off the bridge just before it's destroyed.

  • An electrical storm begins and Peter files through it. He causes water to splash at the lava elemental and subdues it

  • Mysterio disappears, leaving Peter and Fury to try and eliminate the threat alone

  • Peter, Fury, and Happy are sitting in Fury's office. Goose the Cat has a quick cameo.

  • Aunt May is worried sick about Peter and has tried several times to contact him and has failed. Mysterio suddenly shows up in her apartment.

  • The last elemental, sand attacks New York. Peter, Fury, Happy, and Peter's friends return.

  • Peter gets back in the Iron Spider suit (he had left it in New York) and successfuly takes down the sand elemental

  • Peter gets a phone call from Mysterio. He is told to go to the top of the former Avengers tower (which is vacant for now). Mysterio is holding Aunt May hostage.

  • Mysterio reveals that he created the elementals and that they are all alive

  • Iron-Spider and Mysterio duke it out at the top of the tower, while the sand elemental reassembles itself and all of the other elementals enter New York. Fury, Happy, and the police are working hard to evacuate as much of the city as they can

  • Fury decides it's a critical emergency and pages Carol Danvers (more on that later)

  • Iron-Spider is getting his beaten by Mysterio, He feels that Thanos was right and released the elementals purposely to try and cause another apocalyptic disaster

  • Doctor Strange enters and has a duel with Mysterio. Peter figures out that he has to take down the elementals by finding their weaknesses.

  • While Strange and Mysterio are fighting, Iron-Spider grabs some unsused Stark grenades (that release mini seismic charges) and bombs the mess out of the sand and water elementals.

  • He drops the remaining grenades in water to create a gigantic splash which takes down fire and lava

  • Mysterio manages to knock out Strange and escape with Aunt May.

  • Back at his underground home in upstate NY, Mysterio creates one giant elemental that combines all the abilities of the others

  • Strange tells Iron-Spider to stay back, and goes to confront Mysterio by himself, the new elemental rises and attacks Strange, while Mysterio attempts to use his own quantum tunnel to open a dimensional portal. Iron-Spider goes against Strange's wishes and involves himself in the battle to rescue Aunt May.

  • Iron-Spider uses his last Stark grenades to bomb the elemental, he also saves Aunt May

  • Strange goes after Mysterio, they have one last fight. Mysterio jumps into the dimensional portal and returns to his own dimension. Strange then closes the portal.

  • The fight has ended. While Mysterio has escaped. This dimension is now safe. Peter is determined to do whatever he can to carry on Tony Stark's legacy.

  • The world is slowly but surely recovering from the Thanos effect. Peter has returned from a day out at school when he sees some trouble in paradise, he swings out in the Iron-Spider suit to fight crime

  • Mid-credit scene is Adrian Toomes being pulled out of his jail cell by a mysterious man. The man asks him to be a part of his group called the Sinister Six. The man reveals himself to be Norman Osborne. We also learn that the Avengers tower is becoming Oscorp tower.

  • Post credit scene is Carol Danvers entering Fury's office and asking him, "What did I miss?"

  • Fin.

 

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