Pizzafist Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) I'm an everyday Ebay comic book buyer and over the last decade I've had many great purchases and quite a few bad ones. Unfortunately there are many SELLER Predators ripping people off these days on Ebay. They love to strike before the Holiday season.Here are some tips to avoid SELLER FRAUD. Granted, you are always covered by Ebay/Paypal buyer purchase protection. But that does not inspire confidence when you don't get a book you really wanted and have to wait (sometimes up to 2 months) to get your money back. #1 NEVER BUY AN EXPENSIVE BOOK FROM A SELLER WITH ZERO "0" Seller Feedback #2 MAKE SURE THE SELLER ACTUALLY HAS "SELLER" feedback ,not just "BUYER" feedback.(And look for at least some of those SELLER feedbacks to be equal in price to what you're buying.) #3 If the seller has a low feedback number, examine them by clicking on the "bids"(bid history) of their past sales. Look to make sure the sales were not done in 24hrs with feedback left to them in an impossible timeline(Example -an item is sold in 24hrs and feedback issued before it could have ever been shipped and received by a buyer)-If you see this click the "REPORT ITEM" link on the item page and bring attention to this for Ebay to notice. #4 Look to see if the SELLER leaves "FEEDBACK LEFT FOR OTHERS" If they don't it's a sign they can't be trusted. Feedback should be left to buyers when they pay.Before it's shipped to you. Update edit: It seems Ebay is now leaning towards Sellers leaving Feedback after the Buyer leaves their feedback now. #5 The HOTTER the book the more likely someone is trying to rip you off.Examples NEW MUTANTS 98 & 87. Batman the dark Knight Returns #1. Giant Size X-MEN #1 Any book that always sells fast for a solid price. #6 IF THE BOOK IS A"BUY IT NOW" AND THE PRICE SEEMS LIKE IT'S HALF OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE DON'T BE FOOLED. THIS IS HOW BAD SELLERS ARE ABLE TO SELL MULTIPLE FRAUDULENT SALES QUICKLY THEN GET THE MONEY AND DISAPPEAR. Just applying these simple habits can greatly reduce bad ebay experiences. HOPE THAT HELPS Mr.Pizzafist Edited October 29, 2017 by Pizzafist improvement of details Lucky Baru and 1950's war comics 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizzafist Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Will repost later Edited October 20, 2017 by Pizzafist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Pizzafist said: Here's a great example of an item I would not bid on. https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Amazing-Spider-Man-300-299-298-and-297-May-1988-Marvel-VF-/202083206340?epid=85528898&hash=item2f0d1904c4:g:tm4AAOSwYydZ5PCm a lot of people take the risk thinking paypal protect them. and it some cases they do. but not in every instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Excellent thread thanks for the guidelines !! ComicConnoisseur, FoggyNelson, Pizzafist and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 hours ago, revat said: a lot of people take the risk thinking paypal protect them. and it some cases they do. but not in every instance. It can be difficult but I've never lost a case. Just my hair . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicjack Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 46 minutes ago, Pizzafist said: It can be difficult but I've never lost a case. Just my hair . Ebay is like a casino you can win but mostly you do not Pizzafist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks for the information. Can you also do one as the seller and give your perspective/ ideas on How to Not Get Ripped Off on Ebay as a Seller? kav, ADAMANTIUM and mysterio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, comicjack said: Ebay is like a casino you can win but mostly you do not It does make me sad to see so many people buying comics from zero feedback sellers that are probably fake accounts.Its a bummer ebay won't crack down on this.I'm careful and I'd say I have an 85% success rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, Artboy99 said: Thanks for the information. Can you also do one as the seller and give your perspective/ ideas on How to Not Get Ripped Off on Ebay as a Seller? That will require some thought.It's tough.I'll get back to that as soon as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Pizzafist said: That will require some thought.It's tough.I'll get back to that as soon as I can. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Pizzafist said: 2 hours ago, comicjack said: Ebay is like a casino you can win but mostly you do not It does make me sad to see so many people buying comics from zero feedback sellers that are probably fake accounts.Its a bummer ebay won't crack down on this.I'm careful and I'd say I have an 85% success rate. I almost believe the chance to get books below market overcomes all the red flags the buyer should see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteppinRazor Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Pizzafist said: It does make me sad to see so many people buying comics from zero feedback sellers that are probably fake accounts.Its a bummer ebay won't crack down on this.I'm careful and I'd say I have an 85% success rate. OTOH, every seller sold their first item with 0 feedback. Artboy99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottobord Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Is this a flashback post from 1996? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 23 minutes ago, Ottobord said: Is this a flashback post from 1996? I heard that pizzafist is giving away complimentary donuts. Pizzafist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, oakman29 said: I heard that pizzafist is giving away complimentary donuts. Pizzafist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Pizzafist said: It does make me sad to see so many people buying comics from zero feedback sellers that are probably fake accounts.Its a bummer ebay won't crack down on this.I'm careful and I'd say I have an 85% success rate. I'm just curious about your boardie handle, how did you come up with pizzafist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightsofold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) #4 Has nothing to do with determining a seller's trustworthiness. Sellers get ripped off a lot as well, and we've even lost to ability to give negative feedback. I never give the buyer feedback untill they give me positive. They pay get your item and then can do so many things sellers are powerless to. Chargeback, forced returns, never recieved item claims, "not as described" refusal of package, send back a different broken item, buyers remorse, etc. All this after I gave positive feedback just cause they paid? No way. Feedback for buyers is pretty much useless unless it's super low anyway. Edited October 20, 2017 by Knightsofold GM8, Bird, RidersRohan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Knightsofold said: #4 Has nothing to do with determining a seller's trustworthiness. Sellers get ripped off a lot as well, and we've even lost to ability to give negative feedback. I never give the buyer feedback untill they give me positive. They pay get your item and then can do so many things sellers are powerless to. Chargeback, forced returns, never recieved item claims, "not as described" refusal of package, send back a different broken item, buyers remorse, etc. All this after I gave positive feedback just cause they paid? No way. Feedback for buyers is pretty much useless unless it's super low anyway. I can understand your angst.It's tough on Ebay and serial bad buyers are out there that go to great lengths to rip off sellers and mentally vex them.You certainly have the right to leave feedback in any order you like....I was talking more about sellers who never leave any feedback for others ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 9 hours ago, thehumantorch said: I'm just curious about your boardie handle, how did you come up with pizzafist? Baguazhang and I love Pizza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...