PunisherPunisherPunisher Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I've been hearing who the villians are so I've been loading up for spec purposes haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Older reports of a test screening of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness bombing with a test audience and that being the reason for reshoots is complete and utter b****it. My proof? First, Marvel Studios doesn't do test screenings. Second, if that Grace Rudolph lady is pushing the story on her YouTube channel then you can bet it's dubious. I don't know why exactly they're doing reshoots, but I do know it's all part of the filmmaking storytelling process. And I also know it's not because it bombed with a test audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 10:05 AM, @therealsilvermane said: Older reports of a test screening of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness bombing with a test audience and that being the reason for reshoots is complete and utter b****it. My proof? First, Marvel Studios doesn't do test screenings. Second, if that Grace Rudolph lady is pushing the story on her YouTube channel then you can bet it's dubious. Firstly, I do wonder why her TouTube channel would be seen as dubious? Has she been found ot lie about stuff before? And Marvel does do test screenings https://www.slashfilm.com/549226/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-test-screening-score/ Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 10:52 AM, William-James88 said: Firstly, I do wonder why her TouTube channel would be seen as dubious? Has she been found ot lie about stuff before? And Marvel does do test screenings https://www.slashfilm.com/549226/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-test-screening-score/ I guess Marvel Studios does do test screenings. But Grace Randolph has been called out by many directors like James Gunn and Cathy Yan (Birds of Prey) for spreading false news stories based on the slightest hearsay about their movies. William-James88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Marvel Runs Into Copyright Issue, Forced to Change Villain Name Quote Now, however, fans have noticed something strange (no pun intended) about a recent merchandise leak. A new LEGO set for the Doctor Strange (2016) sequel seemingly features the Marvel Comics villain known as Shuma-Gorath. However, in this case, the box art suggests that the tentacled creature will go by the name of Gargantos. Quote Marvel likely wants to avoid even the suggestion of a copyright battle with Conan creator Howard’s estate, as the works featuring the character and any adjacent characters are not yet in the public domain. Key Largo Comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) Robert E. Howard nor his estate ever trademarked the name "Shuma-Gorath". Trademarks only last a decade anyway, but at no point did they ever do it even back when he was first created. And that's not at all surprising because usually people only create trademarks for primary characters in a work of fiction, not supporting characters like this. But even if he had trademarked the name renaming the character would avoid a trademark infringement but not a copyright infringement. Here's what Shuma-Gorath looked like when Howard created him: Just as all Marvel versions of Shuma-Gorath have to date this creature we're seeing in the trailers CLEARLY looks similar to Howard's character. He's huge, he has a big eye in the center of his body, and he has tentacles radiating from around the eye. Just as trial judges repeatedly did find Captain Marvel to be an illegal copy of Superman back in the 1940s and 1950s, it's also clear that Shuma-Gorath in every Marvel incarnation descends from Howard's version of the character. So I don't get the speculation about a name change to avoid a trademark infringement that doesn't even exist when copyright infringement would still be a clear risk with or without the name change. I'm guessing it's just misunderstanding about how trademarks, copyrights, and patents work. Edited January 6, 2022 by fantastic_four Maskedvigilante and Mr Sneeze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Calling @Theagenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 9:19 AM, fantastic_four said: Robert E. Howard nor his estate ever trademarked the name "Shuma-Gorath". Trademarks only last a decade anyway, but at no point did they ever do it even back when he was first created. And that's not at all surprising because usually people only create trademarks for primary characters in a work of fiction, not supporting characters like this. But even if he had trademarked the name renaming the character would avoid a trademark infringement but not a copyright infringement. Here's what Shuma-Gorath looked like when Howard created him: Just as all Marvel versions of Shuma-Gorath have to date this creature we're seeing in the trailers CLEARLY looks similar to Howard's character. He's huge, he has a big eye in the center of his body, and he has tentacles radiating from around the eye. Just as trial judges repeatedly did find Captain Marvel to be an illegal copy of Superman back in the 1940s and 1950s, it's also clear that Shuma-Gorath in every Marvel incarnation descends from Howard's version of the character. So I don't get the speculation about a name change to avoid a trademark infringement that doesn't even exist when copyright infringement would still be a clear risk with or without the name change. I'm guessing it's just misunderstanding about how trademarks, copyrights, and patents work. It may come down to Netflix owns the rights now since it is making an updated Conan production. There was some chatter on social media about this recently amongst Robert E. Howard fans how real this may be. Not sure how true this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 If true (and I hope it's not), I wonder if this may be a reason for the extended shooting? I don't think it's that easy for a film of this nature to just dub in a different name for the villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 This should bring the magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 this thread title has to go; can't we make it: Dr. Strange Trying to Ride on the Coattails of S-M:NWH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGGIEZ Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) That…was…amazing!! Spoiler I think we see the Illuminati with the chairs and Professor X/Patrick Stewart!!! Is this how they introduce the X-men, Fantastic Four, Namor and Blackbolt to the universe? (No, Inhumans series didn’t happen) Edited February 14, 2022 by AGGIEZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 6:55 PM, Bosco685 said: Incredible. Larryw7 and Bosco685 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Spoiler Professor X AGGIEZ, Larryw7 and Bosco685 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauce Dog Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I am....whelmed? Some neat visual stuff going on, but otherwise not much grabbing me at this moment (I think it's now the fact things being so connected to everything else MCU is feeling like negative to me) but I'm sure that can change as more info trickles out. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 7:22 PM, AGGIEZ said: That…was…amazing!! Hide contents I think we see the Illuminati with the chairs and Professor X/Patrick Stewart!!! Is this how they introduce the X-men, Fantastic Four, Namor and Blackbolt to the universe? (No, Inhumans series didn’t happen) I thought I heard Patrick Stewart from one of the chairs AGGIEZ, Beige and Larryw7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenosmilus Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) On 2/13/2022 at 7:26 PM, Terry JSA said: Reveal hidden contents Professor X Do we need do spoiler warnings for Trailers now? LOL Edited February 14, 2022 by Xenosmilus Larryw7, Bosco685 and bentbryan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGGIEZ Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 6:30 PM, Xenosmilus said: Do we need do spoiler warnings now for Trailers now? LOL For the first few hours, it’s nice. I was giddy watching this trailer without it being spoiled. Sauce Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
