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[I like pie]

13 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

I think this makes 3 CGC subs returned to me with no Newton Ring Effect.  

Hoping for the same for others!  

Always good to hear. How many total books?

[ADAMANTIUM]

2 minutes ago, I like pie said:

13 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

I think this makes 3 CGC subs returned to me with no Newton Ring Effect.  

Hoping for the same for others!  

Always good to hear. How many total books?

10 moderns.... small sample size but some were from 1976 or the like, I think those might be different "sizes" than strait up like ASM #798 moderns, which was included....

In the past I've had troubles with all white covers showing the effect.

This time I had 2 copies of wonder woman #189, one came back 9.8 the other 9.6, with a mostly white cover and still no problems...

[I like pie]

5 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

10 moderns.... small sample size but some were from 1976 or the like, I think those might be different "sizes" than strait up like ASM #798 moderns, which was included....

In the past I've had troubles with all white covers showing the effect.

This time I had 2 copies of wonder woman #189, one came back 9.8 the other 9.6, with a mostly white cover and still no problems...

I have a 50+ total sub that will hit next week

I'll follow up after I get them.

[ADAMANTIUM]

10 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

On 1/4/2020 at 7:05 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

I think this makes 3 CGC subs returned to me with no Newton Ring Effect.  

Hoping for the same for others!  

Always good to hear. How many total books?

Just thought I would clarify one more time...

This last sub was 10 books, but the 2 subs before that were 10 books a piece as well so a total of 30 books free of the effect.

1 sub was 10 value tier non moderns

The other 2 subs were 10 moderns a piece......

[William-James88]

Someone brought the notion of the newton rings in the thread discussing the pros and cons of competitors like CBCS. If these new holders from CGC are the best we have so far and yet other companies do not have newton rings, does it mean that slabs from elsewhere are inferior in other areas? What I mean is, is anything sacrificed by having a slab that doesn't have newton rings? Is what is being gained with the new slabs worth the newton rings?

Just confused by all this since it's not an issue I ever thought we'd have and my other CGC slabs look great.

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 1/9/2020 at 4:16 PM, William-James88 said:

Someone brought the notion of the newton rings in the thread discussing the pros and cons of competitors like CBCS. If these new holders from CGC are the best we have so far and yet other companies do not have newton rings, does it mean that slabs from elsewhere are inferior in other areas? What I mean is, is anything sacrificed by having a slab that doesn't have newton rings? Is what is being gained with the new slabs worth the newton rings?

Just confused by all this since it's not an issue I ever thought we'd have and my other CGC slabs look great.

If you're asking about CGC plastic vs CBCS plastic vs PGX plastic... I can only say that I don't think there are sacrifices in material integrity from CBCS. PGX cases seem(ed) cheap to me (although I haven't held one in a couple years).

The CGC NR problem was only introduced because their last plastic supplier discontinued product (Barex?). So, it's not like CGC switched materials in-benefit of any sort.

[William-James88]

1 hour ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

If you're asking about CGC plastic vs CBCS plastic vs PGX plastic... I can only say that I don't think there are sacrifices in material integrity from CBCS. PGX cases seem(ed) cheap to me (although I haven't held one in a couple years).

The CGC NR problem was only introduced because their last plastic supplier discontinued product (Barex?). So, it's not like CGC switched materials in-benefit of any sort.

Thanks man. In short, this kinda sucks.

[I like pie]

47 books back out of 55(tomorrow) and no trace of NR's.

Some blemishes and scratches but not too bad.

[ADAMANTIUM]

1 hour ago, I like pie said:

47 books back out of 55(tomorrow) and no trace of NR's.

Some blemishes and scratches but not too bad.

*sigh of relief*!!!! yahoo! Congrats  

[I like pie]

As I am scanning them all, the scratches and marks come out very clear. They don't really present visually as you are looking at the slab unless you look hard.

I wonder if that has something to do with eliminating the NRs. Regardless, I'l take the fix but it is more work to edit the scans.

[I like pie]

Here's an example.

[ADAMANTIUM]

2 minutes ago, I like pie said:

Here's an example.

Weird

I dont have a scanner, I dont notice it in others scans..... I'm glad they dont show up too much in person? But that affects representation for the registry or for selling though

I use Microsoft office lenses, but I know usually scans look better....

[I like pie]

15 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Weird

I dont have a scanner, I dont notice it in others scans..... I'm glad they dont show up too much in person? But that affects representation for the registry or for selling though

I use Microsoft office lenses, but I know usually scans look better....

Maybe it's just a bad batch of plastic. About half of them have it but this was the worst.

[ADAMANTIUM]

1 minute ago, I like pie said:

Maybe it's just a bad batch of plastic. About half of them have it but this was the worst.

My initial thought was that it's the "metal cover", but maybe those are just the worst of them?

Glad it's getting better though

I just wondered if with the "clearer case" if there are some covers where "in a scan" it may magnify things...... I dont know much about metal covers, but foil can scratch easily....

[I like pie]

18 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

My initial thought was that it's the "metal cover", but maybe those are just the worst of them?

Glad it's getting better though

I just wondered if with the "clearer case" if there are some covers where "in a scan" it may magnify things...... I dont know much about metal covers, but foil can scratch easily....

I only have a few metal covers. It's on the plastic but hard to tell if it's the inner well or inside of the case.

[Keys_Collector]

Had a small order come in last month, after a 4 month wait - , the absence of newton rings is much better which I do appreciate but there are very minor rings on 5 out of 6 and almost every case had those marks mentioned above: 

 

Edited January 21, 2020 by Keys_Collector

[MGsimba77]

5 hours ago, Keys_Collector said:

Had a small order come in last month, after a 4 month wait - , the absence of newton rings is much better which I do appreciate but there are very minor rings on 5 out of 6 and almost every case had those marks mentioned above: 

 

Appreciate the reporting back. I have a small 5 book reholder coming and if that's the worst they have I'll be ecstatic! I really hope they figure it out  

[MGsimba77]

5 books back. One totally clear, three with very small minor rings barely visible, one with a moderate size blotch bottom front cover but not terrible.

Overall it's a good result I'm satisfied. Not perfect but I ain't complaining considering how bad other submissions came back 

[thewritestuff]

It’s sad when paying customers are satisfied by mediocrity. If the best you can say about a product is “it could’ve been worse”, that really says something about the product itself. 
 

I have lots of books I’d like to get slabbed, but I’d rather wait until these issues are resolved... even if that means they never get slabbed. I prefer to spend my money on more books, rather that a blotchy slab that mutes the beauty of the book inside.

[dpmmur]

Sorry for the very "newbie" question here, but saw a CGC graded comic on ebay the other day that had a very apparent mark on the back of the slab that matches the pictures of these Newton Rings.  Is it possible to get Newton Rings on the back of the slab, or is this something else?