bobotski Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 My book is showing a paper piece sliding out, doesn't look like a page. Read somewhere that CGC puts in a paper material for preservation purposes, could this be it? Anyone seen this before? Book is SS FF #236. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bird Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 yes, they put microchamber between the covers and interior pages, and maybe one more in the middle so that is probably what you are seeing Keys_Collector, celluloidbuff and jokiing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Yes that is micro-chamber paper. Its purpose is to help neutralize acids. I use a sheet with my books which are in 2 mil Mylite with fullbacks. celluloidbuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobotski Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Thanks all. Leave it or reholder? I don't display my books that much so it doesn't bother me, but not sure if it will make some damage if the book moves around a bit in the case with that paper sticking out like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony S Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Few people would want to go to the expense of reholdering books just because of the microchamber paper showing. It will not harm the book in any way. The Lions Den and Krismusic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, bobotski said: Thanks all. Leave it or reholder? I don't display my books that much so it doesn't bother me, but not sure if it will make some damage if the book moves around a bit in the case with that paper sticking out like that. This is a pretty common occurrence. The good news is that the book looks like it's being held in place by a plastic "wedge" at the bottom edge of the inner well (the wedge was put there by someone in the encapsulation room at CGC to help keep the book stable in the holder). The microchamber paper appears to have been placed between the front cover and the first page, and because it's so thin (and not attached to anything) it's able to work it's way downward. The paper should only be able to go so far before it bottoms out, and it may have already reached that point. There are ways to get the paper to move back to where it belongs, but if you're OK with it, so be it... Tony S and bobotski 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobotski Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Got another one Seller was great though, offered a refund to help with the reholder fee. Edited January 15, 2020 by bobotski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toz Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 7 hours ago, bobotski said: Got another one Seller was great though, offered a refund to help with the reholder fee. Seriously ? Keys_Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 wow what a great seller to offer refund for re holder fee.. but as mentioned this is the micro chamber paper used to help preserve the book.. you can try to gentle tap the slab to shift it back into place so you dont see it.. key word gentle The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobotski Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 I attempted to lightly tap it but didn't get anywhere. I'm just concerned that the micro chamber paper may press against the well walls and make an impression on the cover. I'll leave the FF#236 alone since its more straight but I'll send the Hulk for reholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 It surely won’t damage the book but it's ugly to see. And since it seems books are slabbed to be shown… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenosmilus Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Krismusic said: gentle tap the slab to shift it back into place Thats what she said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 21 hours ago, bobotski said: I attempted to lightly tap it but didn't get anywhere. I'm just concerned that the micro chamber paper may press against the well walls and make an impression on the cover. I'll leave the FF#236 alone since its more straight but I'll send the Hulk for reholder. in my opinion I wouldn't stress about the micro chamber paper causing damage I would be more worried about shipping it to get re holdered I would make sure the entire book is not loose to move around easy. Look up shaken comic syndrome there are some threads and pics " warning not for the faint of heart" the microchamber paper sticking out wont harm the book in my opinion. but shipping a loose book in a holder and if you get this guy transporting your stuff... bobotski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokiing Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I did not know that CGC used micro chamber paper to help preserve the comics and grades. I've wondered what would happen over time to the integrity of the paper and now happy to hear that CGC has taken the steps to help slow the aging process. Been schooled.... thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ka-dujh Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 It's in the FAQ https://www.cgccomics.com/comic-grading/faq/ Is it necessary to get my CGC book reholdered after a certain number of years? No. The CGC holder is designed for long-term preservation and provides superior protection for your books. A properly handled and stored CGC-certified book can last for generations. The CGC holder is made from high-quality materials and is entirely archival-safe. The inner well that holds books, for example, is comprised of PETG, a plastic that is well known to be archival-safe and extremely clear. This PETG well is placed inside of a durable outer case that is sonically welded to ensure a secure, tamper-evident seal. For added long-term preservation, CGC inserts *MicroChamber® paper into vintage books prior to encapsulation. This MicroChamber paper helps to neutralize the natural acidity of some books by using a specialized, proprietary “zeolite” that was designed to absorb and hold the molecules known to damage archival collections. That is why MicroChamber paper is used by many of the world’s most respected museums and institutions, including the Smithsonian Institution, the Getty Conservation Institute, the Louvre, the British Museum and the Northeast Document Conservation Center. To further protect books from the natural off-gassing that releases acidic molecules over time, CGC has a secure sonic seal that is NOT airtight so that acidic molecules are not trapped inside the holder. *MicroChamber® is a registered trademark of Conservation Resources International, Inc. jokiing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, jokiing said: I did not know that CGC used micro chamber paper to help preserve the comics and grades. I've wondered what would happen over time to the integrity of the paper and now happy to hear that CGC has taken the steps to help slow the aging process. Been schooled.... thanks. I think they have been there for a long time, at least for pre-glossy paper books. Surely they were there in some I deslabbed a few years ago. jokiing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokiing Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Ka-dujh said: It's in the FAQ https://www.cgccomics.com/comic-grading/faq/ Is it necessary to get my CGC book reholdered after a certain number of years? I'm glad that someone has read the rules book.... I found the MicroChamber® paper on ebay and bought a short stack... interested to see how it works on a smelly comic. Thanks and welcome to the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobotski Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 Got it back. Underwear no longer showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upgrayedd2 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Ha! I came across the same thing and, fortunately, found this post. The pictures make is look must worse and as if it could be the comic book pages. But when you hold it in your hand and look along the entire edge, you can clearly see it's the micro-chamber sheet. No biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...