TupennyConan Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 9:11 AM, Prince Namor said: Really, why can't they make more movies like Napoleon? Columbia Pictures: Napoleon - $200 Million Budget - ($20 Million Opening) - $45 Million Domestic - in 13 days LOSER Or real manly, man movies like: Lions Gate: Expendables - $100 Million Budget - ($8 Million Opening) - $16 Million Domestic - in 10 weeks LOSER Paramount Pictures: Mission Impossible - $290 Million Budget - ($54 Million Opening) - $172 Million Domestic - in 20 weeks LOSER Paramount Pictures: Transformers - $200 Million Budget - ($61 Million Opening) - $157 Million Domestic - in 25 weeks LOSER Paramount Pictures: Dungeons & Dragons - $150 Million Budget - ($37 Million Opening) - $93 Million Domestic - in 35 weeks LOSER Universal Pictures: Fast X - $340 Million Budget - ($67 Million Opening) - $145 Million Domestic - in 28 weeks LOSER or just stick to what worked the first time: Warner Brothers: The Flash - $300 Million Budget - ($55 Million Opening) - $108 Million Domestic - in 24 weeks LOSER Warner Brothers: Shazam - $125 Million Budget - ($30 Million Opening) - $57 Million Domestic - in 37 weeks LOSER Warner Brothers: Meg 2 - $129 Million Budget - ($30 Million Opening) - $82 Million Domestic - in 17 weeks LOSER Warner Brothers: Blue Beetle - $120 Million Budget - ($25 Million Opening) - $72 Million Domestic - in 15 weeks LOSER How about some Historical Movies: Paramount Pictures: Killers of the Flower Moon - $200 Million Budget - ($23 Million Opening) - $66 Million Domestic - in 46 days LOSER Hmmm... maybe not... guess Disney isn't the only one losing money... But... but... but... Don't ALL those movies aimed at non-Males just fail? Warner Brothers: Barbie - Who was THAT aimed at? $636 Million ($145 Million Budget) WINNER! Warner Brothers: Taylor Swift - Who was THAT aimed at? $178 Million ($20 Million Budget) WINNER! Which one did Disney lose more money on? Walt Disney: Indiana Jones - $294 Million Budget - ($67 Million Opening) - $174 Million Domestic - in 22 weeks Walt Disney: Little Mermaid - $300 Million Budget - ($95 Million Opening) - $298 Million Domestic - in 22 weeks This is telling. Hollywood's a LOSER. Prince Namor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Balls Posted December 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2023 I'm surprised Hollywood hasn't hedged with a Barbie Vs Godzilla movie. VintageComics, Prince Namor, TupennyConan and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mattn792 Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 1:59 PM, Dr. Balls said: I'm surprised Hollywood hasn't hedged with a Barbie Vs Godzilla movie. Someone call JJ Abrams! The humble Watcher lurking, Larryw7, Bosco685 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 Doctor Doom is going to be tough! Larryw7, mattn792 and The humble Watcher lurking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAHokie Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 There is no way she is Doom. They have learned their lesson by now right? Right? If they do a gender swap, Silver Surfer? Medusa would make sense. The humble Watcher lurking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mattn792 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 2:40 PM, CAHokie said: There is no way she is Doom. They have learned their lesson by now right? Right? If they do a gender swap, Silver Surfer? Medusa would make sense. It’s Disney. There is no “there is no way.” jimjum12, Bosco685, VintageComics and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) On 12/9/2023 at 12:40 PM, CAHokie said: They have learned their lesson by now right? Right? If they do a gender swap, Silver Surfer? The spec is in. Anya Taylor-Joy as the female Norrin Radd: Dr. Candy Goodstroke, sentinel of the spaceways, herald of Galactus. Edited December 13, 2023 by aardvark88 kimik, namisgr and Larryw7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Goodstroke you say? kimik and media_junkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 11:32 PM, MattTheDuck said: Goodstroke you say? kimik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bosco685 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 What went wrong with Fantastic Four (2015) and what could have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 3:58 PM, Bosco685 said: What went wrong with Fantastic Four (2015) and what could have been If AI keeps going the way it has, it will not be long before you could upload videos like this with the request for it to generate what this film would have looked like and then watch it. Added bonus to that is you could then have it edit parts you wish were different then generating your own cut of this or any film. Iconic1s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 3:58 PM, Bosco685 said: What went wrong with Fantastic Four (2015) and what could have been this movie was no where as bad as people made it out to be certainly far more watchable than some recent disney movies Mr Sneeze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 7:20 PM, jsilverjanet said: this movie was no where as bad as people made it out to be certainly far more watchable than some recent disney movies I have to agree. It was not extreme trash. It's just knowing the backstory of the characters and the comics in general, you recognize the missed opportunities. Finding out that Trank did not want it to be so linked to the comic books most probably is what caused the wedge between the studio and himself. Just listening to what occurred - if accurate - he was missing the point how worshipped these characters are as icons that helped establish Marvel Comics. It's dangerous to mess too much with such lore. Mr Sneeze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla43 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 2:20 AM, jsilverjanet said: this movie was no where as bad as people made it out to be certainly far more watchable than some recent disney movies Yes it was. Worst thing about that movie is that is so boring. Only maybe Morbius is worst than this. FF I fell sleep after maybe an hour and with Morbius I turned off after 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Cataldo Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 7:31 PM, Bosco685 said: ...how worshipped these characters are as icons that helped establish Marvel Comics. It's dangerous to mess too much with such lore. This applies to every comic movie that was successful...and those that weren't. Artboy99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/11/2023 at 4:31 PM, Bosco685 said: It's just knowing the backstory of the characters and the comics in general, you recognize the missed opportunities. Finding out that Trank did not want it to be so linked to the comic books - he was missing the point how worshipped these characters are as icons that helped establish Marvel Comics. It's dangerous to mess too much with such lore. Decent actor for Mr. Fantastic Reed Richards: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) On 12/11/2023 at 7:31 PM, Bosco685 said: I have to agree. It was not extreme trash. It's just knowing the backstory of the characters and the comics in general, you recognize the missed opportunities. Finding out that Trank did not want it to be so linked to the comic books most probably is what caused the wedge between the studio and himself. Just listening to what occurred - if accurate - he was missing the point how worshipped these characters are as icons that helped establish Marvel Comics. It's dangerous to mess too much with such lore. From everything I've read, the root problem to why the movie was a mess was that Fox needed to rush a film out to secure FF rights from reverting and this caused a lot of pressure on the entire project, including reducing time to find solutions to various problems along the way. Most of the other problems seemed to stem out of that time crunch (and yes, I'm aware of the trouble they had in dealing with Trank). Edited December 13, 2023 by VintageComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/13/2023 at 5:42 PM, VintageComics said: From everything I've read, the root problem to why the movie was a mess was that Fox needed to rush a film out to secure FF rights from reverting and this caused a lot of pressure on the entire project, including reducing time to find solutions to various problems along the way. Most of the other problems seemed to stem out of that time crunch (and yes, I'm aware of the trouble they had in dealing with Trank). It's a shame as I liked the cast. So this could have been much stronger and impactful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) On 12/13/2023 at 6:05 PM, Bosco685 said: On 12/13/2023 at 5:42 PM, VintageComics said: From everything I've read, the root problem to why the movie was a mess was that Fox needed to rush a film out to secure FF rights from reverting and this caused a lot of pressure on the entire project, including reducing time to find solutions to various problems along the way. Most of the other problems seemed to stem out of that time crunch (and yes, I'm aware of the trouble they had in dealing with Trank). It's a shame as I liked the cast. So this could have been much stronger and impactful. As I pointed out in another thread too, Disney / Marvel was absolutely trying to kill the Fantastic Four movie franchise by purposefully cancelling the comic book in 2014 just before the release of the Trank movie. It's unreal how much was going against that movie, making it nearly impossible to succeed. Disney bought Marvel entertainment in 2009 IIRC, so Disney and Marvel worked VERY HARD to destroy the franchise that Fox owned, which probably played directly into Disney buying it from Fox just a few short years after the movie tanked. There was, quite literally, a corporate war going on of Biblical proportions over that franchise. EDITING THIS IN: I wonder in terms of movie releases if Disney / Marvel had other things happening to work against the FF franchise. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if there was even more corporate espionage than we've uncovered in just these few posts that Disney would do, to win back those franchises. The Black Sabbath lyrics for War Pigs "moving people just like pawns in chess" was never so true. They play with people's lives for profit. Mind boggling. Edited December 14, 2023 by VintageComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...