drotto Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 1:00 AM, D2 said: So, yes. I do agree with you, but I would introduce a side angle to the perspective. Rather than the MCU trekking down the path of biggerer and biggerer, like you describe, which is always a failed avenue, I think they are better to take a “Game of Thrones” approach. Keep the audience guessing. What I would think would really flip it on its head, is if the reason they stepped into the whole multiverse scenario in the first place, is so they can uproot the apple tree, annihilate all of entirety, to introduce The X-Men through a ‘Days of Future Past’ / ‘Age of Apocalypse’ World. To your point, that’s comics’ biggest flaw, nothing matters. So keep them guessing. In movies though, things should matter, because these actors have a 20 year shelf life, max. They should play that to their advantage. I think the largest reason they are doing the multiverse is because on the surface it is the least complicated way to integrate the Fox properties. This way they do not have to truly reboot X-Men, and FF. They do not have to disavow those movies, because this allows them to be canonical. It also allows them to avoid doing an origin film, because it has already been done. But, as stated before, that approach has its own issues. Really, I think Phase 4 and Phase 5 are basically treading water, till FF and X-Men can be incorporated without having to deal with any outstanding contracts or legal complications left over from old Fox deals. That is the main reason we have not seen them yet. The inconvenient fact is most of the characters introduced recently have never even been widely popular in the comics. Yes, I know many of the characters the MCU was build on were B or C tier, but these have been D tier or lower. So if they fail to catch on, no real loss. If one does, it is an unexpected win. It is all just a waiting game until they can get some B and even A tier characters back. D2 and PopKulture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 11:50 AM, drotto said: Really, I think Phase 4 and Phase 5 are basically treading water, till FF and X-Men can be incorporated without having to deal with any outstanding contracts or legal complications left over from old Fox deals. That is the main reason we have not seen them yet. The inconvenient fact is most of the characters introduced recently have never even been widely popular in the comics. Yes, I know many of the characters the MCU was build on were B or C tier, but these have been D tier or lower. So if they fail to catch on, no real loss. If one does, it is an unexpected win. It is all just a waiting game until they can get some B and even A tier characters back. I have enjoyed the Ant-Man movies. So I am hoping Ant-Man 3 as Avengers 6 (Civil War was Avengers 3) may get things back on track. But I could be wrong. I just hope I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 1:41 AM, kimik said: Based on the post-Covid box office success of the Spider-Man and to a lesser extent Venom franchises, maybe DIS should close the Marvel studios side of the shop and license everything to Sony instead for Phase 5....................... But Sony listens to the fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D2 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 11:50 AM, drotto said: I think the largest reason they are doing the multiverse is because on the surface it is the least complicated way to integrate the Fox properties. This way they do not have to truly reboot X-Men, and FF. They do not have to disavow those movies, because this allows them to be canonical. It also allows them to avoid doing an origin film, because it has already been done. But, as stated before, that approach has its own issues. Really, I think Phase 4 and Phase 5 are basically treading water, till FF and X-Men can be incorporated without having to deal with any outstanding contracts or legal complications left over from old Fox deals. That is the main reason we have not seen them yet. The inconvenient fact is most of the characters introduced recently have never even been widely popular in the comics. Yes, I know many of the characters the MCU was build on were B or C tier, but these have been D tier or lower. So if they fail to catch on, no real loss. If one does, it is an unexpected win. It is all just a waiting game until they can get some B and even A tier characters back. Yeah that makes most sense to me as well. I read, I'm sure by someone on here, that Fox contracts ran until 2025, so if there was any release or development until that time, they have to pay out all of the actors. Which, is in part why they can still bring back Patrick Steward, Hugh Jackman. I just wish they WOULD reboot it all. I liked my X-Men flicks, but First Class was a good show with how they can truly and successfully be rebooted. That being said, the fact that they are trying to skip over the origin stories is also a big win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
