Keys_Collector Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) It's a cool book but i've always been put off by the cover image; the pose (awkward hips, legs), Liefeld feet, lacking detail on the face and that right hand/finger. Does that all get a pass because its Frazetta? Edited April 8, 2020 by Keys_Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefulsum Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 1:42 AM, The Lions Den said: This is the best I can do on such short notice...sorry... Wow what a book, isn't there currently only 8 in this grade in the world and you got one of em dang....👍👏👏 davidtere, oakman29, The Lions Den and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, carefulsum said: Wow what a book, isn't there currently only 8 in this grade in the world and you got one of em dang....👍👏👏 I was very fortunate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Keys_Collector said: It's a cool book but i've always been put off by the cover image; the pose (awkward hips, legs), Liefeld feet, lacking detail on the face and that right hand/finger. Does that all get a pass because its Frazetta? Yes... oakman29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 49 minutes ago, The Lions Den said: I was very fortunate... You were early. Wish I'd started buying these when you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 By the way, what's particularly awesome about the Lion's copy is that it's nicely cut/centered and 9.6 with white pages! That's about as good as it gets. My guess is if you saw the lone 9.8 and this book raw, it would be hard to choose between the two. The Lions Den and oakman29 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Randall Dowling said: You were early. Wish I'd started buying these when you did. It used to be so easy...and cheap, too! To be ridiculously honest, I purchased this copy within the last five years or so. And you know Douglas, it's like a friend of mine used to say: "If I had your books, I'd burn mine!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Keys_Collector said: It's a cool book but i've always been put off by the cover image; the pose (awkward hips, legs), Liefeld feet, lacking detail on the face and that right hand/finger. Does that all get a pass because its Frazetta? I would say because it's Frazetta is a big part of it. But also, at this point, it's become a truly iconic image. People don't notice the problems you bring up because they've seen the cover for 50 years now; and at a certain point you start missing those details because the image has been shown and swiped for so long you see it as perfectly correct on its own terms. And have for a long time now. Keys_Collector, The Lions Den, oakman29 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Randall Dowling said: By the way, what's particularly awesome about the Lion's copy is that it's nicely cut/centered and 9.6 with white pages! That's about as good as it gets. My guess is if you saw the lone 9.8 and this book raw, it would be hard to choose between the two. That's nice of you to say, my friend. The story behind it goes like this: It came from a collection that was purchased new and then stored away in a drawer for many years. When the original owner passed away, the collection passed to his son. I purchased two copies of Vampirella #1 from the son. They both received a 9.6 grade with white pages. I was tempted to get them both pressed, but I decided not to. I sold the other copy a couple of years ago. I try not to be consumed by what I collect---I always think of what happened to this guy... As I'm sure you know, we all take chances on books and many times they aren't what we were hoping for. Every once in a while, we get lucky. In fact, that's a pretty good topic for a thread, isn't it? Edited April 8, 2020 by The Lions Den Keys_Collector, Randall Dowling, piper and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Keys_Collector said: It's a cool book but i've always been put off by the cover image; the pose (awkward hips, legs), Liefeld feet, lacking detail on the face and that right hand/finger. Does that all get a pass because its Frazetta? I think you also may be a bit overly harsh in your assessment. Comic book (and other) illustration is often not anatomically correct or perfect in order to express certain qualities. The number of articles and books on this subject are way too many to count. For me, Frazetta achieved atmospheric and dynamic expression that no other artist has yet to come close to. Many have imitated, none have come close. And comparing that image to Rob Liefeld... I’m sorry but I don’t think that’s even close to compare. Frazetta had no trouble with anatomy. He even talks about it in interviews and the documentary. He followed in the footsteps of Burne Hogarth and Hal Foster, both of whom set gold standards for representative and narrative illustration. Rob Liefeld, man, that’s mean spirited! piper and davidtere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Its really seems like the price has only recently really ramped up. It feels like in the last year it has just really taken off. The Lions Den and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamlet Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, Randall Dowling said: I think you also may be a bit overly harsh in your assessment. Comic book (and other) illustration is often not anatomically correct or perfect in order to express certain qualities. The number of articles and books on this subject are way too many to count. For me, Frazetta achieved atmospheric and dynamic expression that no other artist has yet to come close to. Many have imitated, none have come close. And comparing that image to Rob Liefeld... I’m sorry but I don’t think that’s even close to compare. Frazetta had no trouble with anatomy. He even talks about it in interviews and the documentary. He followed in the footsteps of Burne Hogarth and Hal Foster, both of whom set gold standards for representative and narrative illustration. Rob Liefeld, man, that’s mean spirited! This makes me want to get a Vampirella commission from Liefeld to compare. piper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hamlet said: This makes me want to get a Vampirella commission from Liefeld to compare. The thought of that makes me want to puke. Randall Dowling and porcupine48 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, wombat said: Its really seems like the price has only recently really ramped up. It feels like in the last year it has just really taken off. Thank God for getting in on the ground floor.🎯 porcupine48, Randall Dowling, piper and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, wombat said: The thought of that makes me want to puke. Me too! 🤮 Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 hours ago, wombat said: Look at this thing that went for $200. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1969-Vampirella-1-Comic-/324106765582?hash=item4b7644c50e%3Ag%3AxbYAAOSwIxVeZpR6&nma=true&si=6s5jYE4srNIV8EYNf157Lpq976U%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 200.00! Dollars? 😣 Is that what rags go for these days? Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Randall Dowling said: You were early. Wish I'd started buying these when you did. I got my 1-112 in 1990 for 15$ Canadian Sure,they were in two hole duotangs.... Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, oakman29 said: Thank God for getting in on the ground floor.🎯 How long have you had your copy? oakman29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, piper said: How long have you had your copy? I paid 800.00 in 2014 for a CGC 9.2 I dont know if that was too much or too little at the time. I saw it and it was a pretty copy, so I snagged it. I knew it would be tough to get as high a grade or higher later down the line. Edited April 8, 2020 by oakman29 The Lions Den and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, oakman29 said: I paid 800.00 in 2014 for a CGC 9.2 I dont know if that was too much or too little at the time. I saw it and it was a pretty copy, so I snagged it. I knew it would be tough to get as high a grade or higher later down the line. I think 🤔 you did pretty good! I bought my 7.5 copy about two years ago for $450. (I was a little later to the party.) I have had some good luck finding high grade magazines lately, especially Frazetta covers (Creepy 16, Vampirella 5, 7, 11). I’m getting pretty close to having a 1-20 run. After this current buying spree, I need 13, 16, 17-19. Randall Dowling and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
