What Happened to Sothebys/& Christies ?

[krazykat-migration]

Anyone know why these auction houses no longer do Original Art ? - I can understand not wanting to do comic books but OA seems like it would be ideal for the MAJOR Auction Houses. I would love to see someone go 'head-to-head' with Heritage and imagine the PRESTIGE of Sothebys/Christies would help OA get some SERIOS, SERIOUS, Moollah !

[ArAich]

Don't know for sure but isn't Heritage an offshoot with people from Sotheby's???...

[krazykat-migration]

Could be,...I still think the 'Sotheby's' 'Christies' Brand is a stronger one and could better attract bidders. I know Nadia Mannarino of All-Star used to be affiliated with Christies. Hopefully they will get back into the fold at some point.

[sborock]

They felt that it was not worth the time and $$$ for a lowely $1,500,000 auction when they can make the same commission off 1 $1,500,000 painting in an auction full of fine art or other things with a much higher value.

 

Didn't they have an auction last year where a single coin brought $7,000,000? The house commision on that single coin was probably 1/2 of what they made on an entire comic auction where you had preview days and nights while paying experts/catalogers (Jerry and others), security guards, printing of full color catalog, and insurance for the comics and comic art while on there premises for months.

 

It's a shame, I really enjoyed grading for them, going to the previews with my friends, floor bidding, and those great dinners in NYC afterwards.......

[krazykat-migration]

They felt that it was not worth the time and $$$ for a lowely $1,500,000 auction when they can make the same commission off 1 $1,500,000 painting in an auction full of fine art or other things with a much higher value.

 

Didn't they have an auction last year where a single coin brought $7,000,000? The house commision on that single coin was probably 1/2 of what they made on an entire comic auction where you had preview days and nights while paying experts/catalogers (Jerry and others), security guards, printing of full color catalog, and insurance for the comics and comic art while on there premises for months.

 

It's a shame, I really enjoyed grading for them, going to the previews with my friends, floor bidding, and those great dinners in NYC afterwards.......

 

Thats such a silly rationale on their part. Especially considering that Heritage now has a monopoly on the growing segment of collectibles. I bet Sothebys and Christies will re-think their position when OA starts garnering money that justifies/ validates their participation.

 

I view it as inevitable that I will see a News story within the next decade that reads something along the lines of "The Cover Original Art to X sold for a whopping $1Million Dollars". Sotheby's and Christies WILL in time get back into the arena, thats jmho. Heritage will have competition in the future if prices keep going up the way they have - as Sothebys'/ Christies current rationale for why the dont participate will be moot.

[JohnBull]

They felt that it was not worth the time and $$$ for a lowely $1,500,000 auction when they can make the same commission off 1 $1,500,000 painting in an auction full of fine art or other things with a much higher value.

 

Didn't they have an auction last year where a single coin brought $7,000,000? The house commision on that single coin was probably 1/2 of what they made on an entire comic auction where you had preview days and nights while paying experts/catalogers (Jerry and others), security guards, printing of full color catalog, and insurance for the comics and comic art while on there premises for months.

 

It's a shame, I really enjoyed grading for them, going to the previews with my friends, floor bidding, and those great dinners in NYC afterwards.......

 

Thats such a silly rationale on their part. Especially considering that Heritage now has a monopoly on the growing segment of collectibles. I bet Sothebys and Christies will re-think their position when OA starts garnering money that justifies/ validates their participation.

 

I view it as inevitable that I will see a News story within the next decade that reads something along the lines of "The Cover Original Art to X sold for a whopping $1Million Dollars". Sotheby's and Christies WILL in time get back into the arena, thats jmho. Heritage will have competition in the future if prices keep going up the way they have - as Sothebys'/ Christies current rationale for why the dont participate will be moot.

 

I'll happily bet you $1000 that no original comic art sells for $1M in the next 10 years, in a genuine sale (as opposed to when big dealers pass stuff back and forth to create a market impression).

 

Find a forum member we both trust and we'll each paypal the $1000. He can then stick the funds in a long term account and we can sit back and wait. Given your average spend of about $1.5M a year on OA, I assume you'll have no problems with this comparatively small wager.

 

My only request is that since you're so obviously full of [embarrassing lack of self control] is that you paypal the funds first, since I don't wish to end up with all the charges when you renege and I get my money back. Don't worry about me coughing up, as you'll find several forumites who will vouch that I'm an inveterate gambler.

[krazykat-migration]

They felt that it was not worth the time and $$$ for a lowely $1,500,000 auction when they can make the same commission off 1 $1,500,000 painting in an auction full of fine art or other things with a much higher value.

 

Didn't they have an auction last year where a single coin brought $7,000,000? The house commision on that single coin was probably 1/2 of what they made on an entire comic auction where you had preview days and nights while paying experts/catalogers (Jerry and others), security guards, printing of full color catalog, and insurance for the comics and comic art while on there premises for months.

 

It's a shame, I really enjoyed grading for them, going to the previews with my friends, floor bidding, and those great dinners in NYC afterwards.......

 

Thats such a silly rationale on their part. Especially considering that Heritage now has a monopoly on the growing segment of collectibles. I bet Sothebys and Christies will re-think their position when OA starts garnering money that justifies/ validates their participation.

 

I view it as inevitable that I will see a News story within the next decade that reads something along the lines of "The Cover Original Art to X sold for a whopping $1Million Dollars". Sotheby's and Christies WILL in time get back into the arena, thats jmho. Heritage will have competition in the future if prices keep going up the way they have - as Sothebys'/ Christies current rationale for why the dont participate will be moot.

 

I'll happily bet you $1000 that no original comic art sells for $1M in the next 10 years, in a genuine sale (as opposed to when big dealers pass stuff back and forth to create a market impression).

 

Find a forum member we both trust and we'll each paypal the $1000. He can then stick the funds in a long term account and we can sit back and wait. Given your average spend of about $1.5M a year on OA, I assume you'll have no problems with this comparatively small wager.

 

My only request is that since you're so obviously full of [embarrassing lack of self control] is that you paypal the funds first, since I don't wish to end up with all the charges when you renege and I get my money back. Don't worry about me coughing up, as you'll find several forumites who will vouch that I'm an inveterate gambler.

 

 

Hello sheep.

 

I do not converse with un-thinking sheep who follow the herd in their blind hatred for me. Learn to engage me like an individual and not some 'group spokesman' and maybe we will one day have a real conversation. Until that day,..go back to your herd.

[tth2]

Don't worry about me coughing up, as you'll find several forumites who will vouch that I'm an inveterate gambler.

Yes, I can confirm that I very happily took Gary`s money last year!

 

Gary, don`t allow yourself to get worked up by the Hairshirt. By no means should you take him seriously in any way whatsoever. I find him bizarrely entertaining for some reason, which must be my masochistic side speaking. Or maybe it`s my sadistic side speaking, because in real life I would never bait someone so mentally and emotionally stunted.

[JohnBull]

They felt that it was not worth the time and $$$ for a lowely $1,500,000 auction when they can make the same commission off 1 $1,500,000 painting in an auction full of fine art or other things with a much higher value.

 

Didn't they have an auction last year where a single coin brought $7,000,000? The house commision on that single coin was probably 1/2 of what they made on an entire comic auction where you had preview days and nights while paying experts/catalogers (Jerry and others), security guards, printing of full color catalog, and insurance for the comics and comic art while on there premises for months.

 

It's a shame, I really enjoyed grading for them, going to the previews with my friends, floor bidding, and those great dinners in NYC afterwards.......

 

Thats such a silly rationale on their part. Especially considering that Heritage now has a monopoly on the growing segment of collectibles. I bet Sothebys and Christies will re-think their position when OA starts garnering money that justifies/ validates their participation.

 

I view it as inevitable that I will see a News story within the next decade that reads something along the lines of "The Cover Original Art to X sold for a whopping $1Million Dollars". Sotheby's and Christies WILL in time get back into the arena, thats jmho. Heritage will have competition in the future if prices keep going up the way they have - as Sothebys'/ Christies current rationale for why the dont participate will be moot.

 

I'll happily bet you $1000 that no original comic art sells for $1M in the next 10 years, in a genuine sale (as opposed to when big dealers pass stuff back and forth to create a market impression).

 

Find a forum member we both trust and we'll each paypal the $1000. He can then stick the funds in a long term account and we can sit back and wait. Given your average spend of about $1.5M a year on OA, I assume you'll have no problems with this comparatively small wager.

 

My only request is that since you're so obviously full of [embarrassing lack of self control] is that you paypal the funds first, since I don't wish to end up with all the charges when you renege and I get my money back. Don't worry about me coughing up, as you'll find several forumites who will vouch that I'm an inveterate gambler.

 

 

Hello sheep.

 

I do not converse with un-thinking sheep who follow the herd in their blind hatred for me. Learn to engage me like an individual and not some 'group spokesman' and maybe we will one day have a real conversation. Until that day,..go back to your herd.

 

I have no blind hatred for you and I don't even care about your OA opinions. Even your obvious lies with regards to yourself and your collecting have a certain novelty value.

 

However, having read your comments in another thread (the "Yes I'm Here" one), it's obvious that you are pretty close to being a cyber-stalker. Claiming someone else's drink as your own is a pretty bizarre thing to do and I figure that the only OA you're ever likely to own is the twisted innards of your victims, spread around the floor, after you've spent nine hours slowly disembowelling them. This may seem a bit of a leap, but I think a psychiatrist would have a field day with your posts.

 

Whatever, if you're for real, take my bet. You have $10M invested in OA, which you've put there since around 98/99. You must be a reasonably big player in the field and somewhat well known to other collectors and dealers? $1000 should be as nothing to a man of your means and if you can stump up the cash, you could certainly put the sheep on these boards in their place.

[JohnBull]

Don't worry about me coughing up, as you'll find several forumites who will vouch that I'm an inveterate gambler.

Yes, I can confirm that I very happily took Gary`s money last year!

 

Gary, don`t allow yourself to get worked up by the Hairshirt. By no means should you take him seriously in any way whatsoever. I find him bizarrely entertaining for some reason, which must be my masochistic side speaking. Or maybe it`s my sadistic side speaking, because in real life I would never bait someone so mentally and emotionally stunted.

 

You have far less of it than Mr. Ladbroke!

 

Actually, I'm in the midst of a golden run of form at the moment, possibly because I've kept off the football betting. Betfair have provided me with a lot of success at the cricket and also with Wimbledon and I've started to go to the races again regularly with positive results every time. Even my off-track horse betting has yielded dividends. Presumably, the end is nigh soon.

 

Destro doesn't work me up, but it would be nice if he could get another song. There's no problem with marching to a different drum, but if you're going to attempt to rattle cages, you have to build on your repertoire occassionally. Something like - "I think Jim Lee is the greatest modern artist". I don't think he has the wit for the WC though?

[tth2]

I don't think he has the wit for the WC though?

You need wit to post in the WC?