Dr. Love Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Well with Matt committing to grading pulps and digests too I believe then I get to eat a piece of humble pie and owe @bedrockcomicsa cup of joe which I will deliver at Torpedo. Lunch will have to wait! aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 9:07 PM, aardvark88 said: President M. Nelson hath just decreed (at about 1 hr 15 mins mark of Youtube) pulp trimming is NOT PLOD; will be blue label since pulp trimming is so common and 'accepted by the hobby.' aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing Alien Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 12:57 AM, Dr. Love said: and digests too Did he commit to grading digests in that video? I didn't watch the whole thing but saw the part about pulps. I've always wanted to get my Reform School Girl digest graded. Do you think they'll do the GGA Avon/Diversey digests like those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookery Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 12:47 AM, asimovpulps said: Thanks for sharing, super exciting! This feels like the right move, especially since trimming will still be factored into grade. I believe Bookery caps at VG for trimmed issues - though my sense is CGC may lift that cap to FN- or FN+ for otherwise pristine copies to avoid a huge glut at VG. I'd imagine with CGC still staffing up + the tsunami of initial submissions, we're probably still looking at 9-12+ months until we actually see slabs on the market? Over/under? Pulp collectors should note, however, that there are 2 distinct kinds of trimming. There is the trimming of just the overhang, which can be done tidily, or crudely with "kindergarten scissors" (both are common, actually). But there is also the not infrequent trimming of the entire book! This is a different animal. This was done by many early pulp collectors, using professional paper cutters, so that their pulps would fit neatly on bookshelves. These may have up to a half inch cleaved off the entire book, making what appears to be a large square digest. I would not grade any of these above "G" or maybe even "fair", as often even the pulp logo is affected. Unfortunately, I have quite a few of these lying about. asimovpulps, OtherEric and jimjum12 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Love Posted August 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 7/9/2020 at 4:14 PM, Dr. Love said: I got your slabbed pulps right here. Those brittle books with overhangs the rest of you'all are talking about? You think graders will uncurl those nasty azz wraps so as to count 180+ pages and make sure no cutouts? And then, what - include the pieces that fall off inside the slab? It took 2 years for Matt to get back to me about the possibility of slabbing little sci-fi digests. Two years. NEVER HAPPEN yeh this post didn't age well! Randall Dowling, waaaghboss, Ricksneatstuff and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hall Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 7/9/2020 at 4:15 PM, comicparadox said: A huuge problem with pulps is that they are, well... pulps. The paper quality even at the time of printing was no rag content, high acidity. It's very difficult to find pulps from the late 30s to early 50s with decent quality paper. I have no problem finding pulps with good paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hall Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 7/9/2020 at 6:04 PM, comicginger1789 said: I mean would I pay $10-20 for a pulp with a cool cover? Sure. But that would be the high end for me. I can never see myself spending more because I’d rather spend that on comics. We might see certain covers that are horror or headlights or sci fi related go up a but but I can’t see it becoming a booming market. Does anyone have a VF copy of a pulp from the 30s or 40s? Every copy I’ve ever seen is 2.0-5.0 at best. Then again I don’t see many cuz they aren’t really on the radar. "I mean would I pay $10-20 for a pulp with a cool cover?" > I have never bought a pulp just because of the cover. I buy pulps to read. "Does anyone have a VF copy of a pulp from the 30s or 40s?" > They exist. But so what? You deal with what you find "Every copy I’ve ever seen is 2.0-5.0 at best." > Again, so what. The -value- of a pulp magazine is in the stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hall Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 7/9/2020 at 7:19 PM, MrBedrock said: Those are pulps! Graded! You owe me lunch and coffee!!! No. The issue of "Science Fiction +" is a digest magazine. "Everyday Astrology" is an astrology magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hall Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 7/19/2021 at 11:07 PM, aardvark88 said: CGC is actively hiring for their new pulp slabbing division. President M. Nelson hath just decreed (at about 1 hr 15 mins mark of Youtube) pulp trimming is NOT PLOD; will be blue label since pulp trimming is so common and 'accepted by the hobby.' "pulp trimming is so common and 'accepted by the hobby.'" > And just who said that? Trimmed pulps are always priced lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hall Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 7/21/2021 at 10:26 AM, Bookery said: Pulp collectors should note, however, that there are 2 distinct kinds of trimming. There is the trimming of just the overhang, which can be done tidily, or crudely with "kindergarten scissors" (both are common, actually). But there is also the not infrequent trimming of the entire book! This is a different animal. This was done by many early pulp collectors, using professional paper cutters, so that their pulps would fit neatly on bookshelves. These may have up to a half inch cleaved off the entire book, making what appears to be a large square digest. I would not grade any of these above "G" or maybe even "fair", as often even the pulp logo is affected. Unfortunately, I have quite a few of these lying about. "Pulp collectors should note, however, that there are 2 distinct kinds of trimming." Do not forget that some pulps were trimmed by the publisher. And pulp collectors know this. But potential collectors of slabbed pulps may not. "There is the trimming of just the overhang, which can be done tidily, or crudely with "kindergarten scissors" (both are common, actually). But there is also the not infrequent trimming of the entire book!" Great, both are "trimming". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/18/2024 at 7:43 PM, Rick Hall said: "I mean would I pay $10-20 for a pulp with a cool cover?" > I have never bought a pulp just because of the cover. I buy pulps to read. "Does anyone have a VF copy of a pulp from the 30s or 40s?" > They exist. But so what? You deal with what you find "Every copy I’ve ever seen is 2.0-5.0 at best." > Again, so what. The -value- of a pulp magazine is in the stories. Fair enough. I also buy comics too for the stories. I guess at the time I posted this (4 years ago wowza!) I am of the mindset that I prefer the art aspect of comics the most. With pulps, the only art aspect you get is the cover and occasionally a few interior drawings. That does not appeal to me is all. And my comment about condition was moreso the notion that it must be EXTREMELY hard to find higher grade pulps is all. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bookery Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 On 2/18/2024 at 7:56 PM, Rick Hall said: "There is the trimming of just the overhang, which can be done tidily, or crudely with "kindergarten scissors" (both are common, actually). But there is also the not infrequent trimming of the entire book!" (Bookery) Great, both are "trimming". Not sure of your point. You seem to be derisive of trimming (as indeed are most collectors). But I would have to infer from all of your other posts that you are actually pro-trimming, just not sure which kind you prefer. You have (repeatedly) stated that pulps should only be collected for the reading of the stories, not for the art. You also chastised one poster and told him it was not his job to preserve pulps for posterity (so why worry about their original published state?). Trimming (especially "block-trimming") actually makes pulps much easier to handle and read. Thus, based on your other comments, I would have to assume that you trim the pulps in your collection that haven't already been done? Plus, buying only trimmed pulps is much cheaper, and would allow you to acquire much more reading material. If you collect pulps as historical artifacts or for the artwork, trimming is certainly anathema for many. But if all you intend for them is to be read (and re-read), condition should be irrelevant, and trimming would actually facilitate one's ability to do so. tth2, Robot Man, buttock and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robot Man Posted February 24 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 24 To answer my own question when I first started this thread, I would now with out a doubt say YES. The water has now been chummed. A few weeks ago I set up at CalCon. I brought a long and a short box of pulps. I easily sold 2 thirds of them. All genres except maybe sports and westerns (and even a few of those as well) sold briskly even though I up priced them quite a bit. What was kind of amusing was to see comic dealers who obviously knew nothing about pulps stack them up with wild abandon. Didn’t even discount any. Everyone is now trying desperately trying to get in “on the ground floor”. The power of CGC… ThothAmon, aardvark88, jimjum12 and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwination Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 10:35 AM, Robot Man said: Everyone is now trying desperately trying to get in “on the ground floor” LMAO. I started 20 years ago and even then knew I was decades too late ThothAmon, waaaghboss and jimjum12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThothAmon Posted February 24 Popular Post Share Posted February 24 Sadly I’ve sold many of the cherries from my collection over the years to pay for other follies. Fortunately, not all of them. If Rick ever came knocking I might get a few of them graded. Hibou, OtherEric, waaaghboss and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The only pulp I own... I wonder if they will get around to grading "bedsheets" one day. Not that it matters until the encapsulation department and quality control gets their together. jimjum12, OtherEric, ThothAmon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 12:49 PM, newshane said: The only pulp I own... I wonder if they will get around to grading "bedsheets" one day. Not that it matters until the encapsulation department and quality control gets their together. An excellent choice. Yet another reason to love Queen: They had the good taste and respect to hire Freas to recreate the artwork for the album cover, rather than getting somebody else to swipe it. Surfing Alien, jimjum12 and newshane 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 3:44 PM, OtherEric said: An excellent choice. Yet another reason to love Queen: They had the good taste and respect to hire Freas to recreate the artwork for the album cover, rather than getting somebody else to swipe it. Every single thing about that album was absolutely epic. And we have Freas to thank for the awesome interior gatefold as well. Classic. Surfing Alien, jimjum12, OtherEric and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicjack Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Lots of graded pulps showing up in auctions and everywhere so it starts good or bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/24/2024 at 3:49 PM, newshane said: pulp Nice. Such a classic. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
