2021 "THIS SCORE NEEDS FIXIN" REQUESTS
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2021 "THIS SCORE NEEDS FIXIN" REQUESTS

This is the place to request that scores in the CGC Registry competitive scores be evaluated. You may have slight disagreements with scores, but some of those slight disagreements just boil down to a judgment call. What we're looking for here are clearly incorrect scoring examples. Please provide links, sales histories or any other data that may be helpful in making the appropriate changes to the score.

When making requests, please use full title of the book and publish date. There have been so many reboots, I just want to make sure that we are looking at the same book.

I understand that you are anxious to have you scores updated, but let's take this slow. Start with the key issues that irk you most and need the attention the most. 

Please try to avoid request like "Update all scores in X-Men (1963)." While I agree, some of these type of requests will be valid, I would like to focus on single book upgrades that are grossly under valued in points and less of the 700-800 books need to go up one point. Multiple people, requesting 700-800 all at once, is only going to clog the pipe. I am not saying "no" to these type of requests. I am just asking if we can hold off for a bit.

*Posts that have been edited after the original posting date will now be skipped and not revisited. Meaning, if you add more to your request at a later date, I will not fulfill it. Your request will be ignored and you need to resubmit your request. In short, don't try to skip others. I'm hip to it. Don't do it.  Make a new post for your new requests, don't add to the old one.

***If the score simply has a “0” just PM me and I will fix it.****

Thank you for your patience and participation in the registry!

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Hello Matt,

                     could you please update Thor #337, specifically the Canadian Price Variant scores. A Thor #337 in 9.8 is currently worth 440 while the CPV is worth 320 despite being 20 times more rare in 9.8 (1216 vs 61 graded in census). GPA average in CGC 9.8 is $667 (24 sold) and $803 (9 sold) for the CPV.

Thor #338 (classic cover swipe) and Thor #339 (1st Stormbreaker) could probably use an update as well. CGC 9.8 copies of both go for over $100. Also please update the CPV scores on these 2 issues as well as 9.8 copies sell for over $150.

Thanks!

Scores for #337-339 standard and canadian price variants increased on 3/31/21. Thank you

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Hello Matt and Happy New Year to you and all your staff.

I am requesting some more updated scores for precode , esoteric and certain good girl art books that need serious consideration.

Scores updated on 3/31/21. Thank you

Jo Jo Comics (Fox Publ.) # 25   classic Matt Baker cover

PTS      GRADE     PRICE     DATE

25          3.0            $870        7/2020

30          3.5              679        11/2017

40          4.5             1515       10/2020

75          6.5             1673        2/2018

 

Manhunt # 14 (Magazine Enterprise)  classic hypodermic needle cover

PTS      GRADE       PRICE     DATE

11           0.5             $635          9/2020

61           5.0              2600         2/2020

73           5.5              2400         10/2017

 

Phantom Lady # 17 (Fox)    classic Matt Baker cover

PTS     GRADE     PRICE      DATE

525       0.5           $1956        5/2020

1200      2.5            4800        7/2020

2100     4.0             7800        4/2019

3600     5.5             9560        2/2018

4500     6.5            11000       7/2017

 

Teen-Age Romances # 32 (St John)  classic Matt Baker cover

PTS     GRADE      PRICE      DATE

33          2.5            $460         6/2020

41          3.0              960         9/2020

83         5.0               750         12/2015

173       7.0               837          7/2011

The 5.0 and 7.0 if sold today would far exceed these prices. This issue and others are just plain scarce.

Teen-Age Romances # 38 (St John) classic Matt Baker cover

PTS      GRADE      PRICE      DATE

80            3.0           $504          9/2018

112          4.0             463          10/2019

240          6.5             950          2/2014

672          8.0            1301         3/2013

Same as above for the 6.5 and 8.0 copies here, they would sell for far more today.

 

Teen-Age Romances # 43 (St John)    superb and scarce Matt Baker cover

PTS      GRADE     PRICE      DATE

26           2.0           $552         8/2018

44           3.0             845         10/2019

53           3.5             952           9/2019

 

Authentic Police Cases # 6 (St John)  Classic Baker cover and Seduction Of The Innocent issue

PTS    GRADE      PRICE     DATE

76         2.5           $636         10/2019

133       4.0             900          7/2020

475       7.5            2868         8/2017

798       8.0            1640         2/2014 

Authentic Police Cases # 8 and #10    (St John) both classic Baker covers

ISSUE    PTS      GRADE      PRICE      DATE

#8          78            5.0            $960         10/2019

#8          116          6.5              896          5/2014

#10        116          6.5              840           5/2020

#10        163          7.0              621          12/2020

These two issues are comparable in recent sales

 

Reform School Girl  (Avon)  scarce one-shot

PTS      GRADE       PRICE       DATE

495         1.5             $1475         7/2020

550         1.8               2150        12/2019

1100       3.0               2995         4/2020

1320        3.5             3090         1/2020

2640        5.5             5200         2/2015

3300        6.5             7986         3/2020

9240       8.0             20400        9/2020

 

A number of titles and issues with LB Cole covers are in extreme need of updates. I am listing some issues that have some relevant recent data.

Blue Bolt #105  (Star)

PTS    GRADE     PRICE     DATE

86         3.5           $2503       11/2019

115       4.5             3819         5/2020

360       7.5             6900         8/2018

605       8.0             2888         6/2017

needless to say, the 8.0 would sell for 5 figures today, very tough issue in any grade!

 

Blue Bolt # 108 (Star)

PTS    GRADE     PRICE      DATE

39          2.0           $ 375       4/2020

65          3.0             442        8/2020

131        5.0             655       10/2020

174        6.0            1009       3/2020

326        7.5            1440      11/2019

 

Blue Bolt # 110 (Star)

PTS     GRADE     PRICE     DATE

91          4.0           $930        10/2020

104        4.5           1150         7/2019

157        5.0           1320        10/2020

196       6.5            1800        11/2019

548       8.0             2716        2/2019

 

Blue Bolt # 111 (Star)

PTS     GRADE      PRICE       DATE

71         3.5             $685          3/2019

83         4.0              766           3/2020

158       6.0             1320          7/2020

249       7.0             2247          5/2019

796       8.5             4555          12/2019

 

Blue Bolt # 112  (Star)

PTS     GRADE      PRICE     DATE

104         3.5            $650       6/2020

173         5.0              840      12/2019

230         6.0            1860      5/2019

364         7.0            1560      1/2020

728         8.0            2880      10/2019

 

Blue Bolt # 113   (Star)

PTS      GRADE      PRICE     DATE

31          0.5               $200      7/2019

126        4.0                580       9/2019

180        5.0                800        10/2020

239        6.0               1016       4/2018

239        6.0               1560       3/2019

450        7.5               4560       10/2020

 

Blue Bolt # 115  (Star)

PTS     GRADE      PRICE     DATE

70         2.5            $1250         4/2020

144       4.5              2880        12/2019

180       5.0              1560         5/2020

239       6.0              1920         11/2019

378      7.0               3611         3/2019

8993    9.6              16730        11/2017

 

Journey Into Mystery # 6 (Atlas) classic Bill Everett "skeletal bridal' cover

PTS     GRADE     PRICE     DATE

72          2.5           $800        12/2020

108        3.5           1050        5/2020

126        4.0            900         12/2019

239        6.0           2250         4/2018

270        6.5           3705         8/2015

378        7.0           3639         10/2018

 

Voodoo # 1  (Farrell)

PTS     GRADE      PRICE     DATE

65          2.5           $293         12/2018

162        5.0            720          7/2019

243        6.5            666          12/2019

340        7.0            1500         11/2018

 

Thank you, Matt, for any time you can spend on these!!

 

 

 

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Matt, I would be grateful if you would review the points value of Detective Comics 359 (publication date January 1967) as due to its continued high demand and generally increasing sales prices it may warrant an increase in the points assigned to it.

Score updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

2020 and 2021 eBay Sales:

2021

CGC graded 4.0 sold for $549.98, January 17

2020

GCG graded 6.0 sold for 950.00, November; $1020.00, November; $949.95, December

CGC graded 6.5 sold for $1.195.00, November

CGC graded 8.5 sold for $3,440.00, December

 

2020 and 2021 Heritage Auctions:

2021

CGC graded 9.8 sold for $132,000.00, January

2020

CGC graded 6.5 sold for $900.00 February; $840.00 April

CGC graded 7.0 sold for $1080.00, $1260.00 both in August; $1140.00 September

CGC graded 7.5 sold for $1440.00, November

 

Thank you!

 

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Hello Matt,  not really sure what factors you look for besides sales history but this one may be difficult. Deathmate Preview Orange is not super rare, but in (9.8) it may be unique. Infact, I doubt another example would come close. There are two graded copies of this book and I own them both. I've tried to delicately remove a copy from the Previews Magazine #6, they were originally bound in with very little success. 

Seems like the point value for this one would be a great deal more than the average Deathmate Preview. 

Thanks for your help. 

cert# 2052462005

Hello @ScotchOnTheRocks,

In order to review and increase scores we need recent auction results for the specific book. Luckily, I was able to find one sale so the score has been increased on 4/5/21. Thank you

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Hi Matt, 

Avengers Annual 10 (1st Rogue) currently gets 400 points, and could use a bump up. Below are the last sales as recorded by GoCollect. 
 

Also, my 5.5 Combat Kelly #24 (1954) only gets 10 points. Seems abysmally low, but that may be more of a systemic issue with all the golden age Combat Kellys and something not to worry about right now.

Scores updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

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Hi Matt,

 

Please adjust G.I. Jane #8. Cert # 2093492025. GPA shows 3 sales in 2020 and 2021.

4.0 $367 Oct 2020

3.5 $300 Feb 2021

2.5 $300 July 2020

Nothing in higher grades but these prices are really consistent and I'd think the 9.4 value could be extrapolated. :)

Thanks! 

Score updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

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Hi Matt,

please adjust points to Detective 36.

Case in point:

Detective 37 in 5.0 grade has a point allocation of 24000 points

Detective 36 in 5.0 grade only has a point allocation of 6000 points.

Cheers.

Score updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

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On 1/21/2021 at 9:41 AM, Steppenwolfscomics said:

Hi Matt, 

Avengers Annual 10 (1st Rogue) currently gets 400 points, and could use a bump up. Below are the last sales as recorded by GoCollect. 
 

Also, my 5.5 Combat Kelly #24 (1954) only gets 10 points. Seems abysmally low, but that may be more of a systemic issue with all the golden age Combat Kellys and something not to worry about right now. B76F6E5D-7253-4B81-9F16-09347160F143.thumb.png.2dbd2861b9ca0475030bae7298beaa59.png

Avengers Annual #10 sold in an eBay auction yesterday for $1585 + shipping.

Prices have been going up a lot recently for that issue.

(GPA sales have been a bit more acurrate, btw).

Score updated on 4/19/21

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Hi Matt,

  Please take another look at Black Cat Mystery #50 ( classic melting face cover). Currently, this issue maybe the most sought after and most valuable pre-code horror book on the market. Recent prices seem to back this up.

Score updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

GRADE      SALE          DATE         CURRENT PTS.

 1.0            $2450           8/2019          140

 2.5              3480           5/2020          280

 3.0              4560           9/2020          350

 3.5              5719           12/2020        420

 5.0              8200           10/2020        700

 5.5              6812            9/2019         840

 8.0             10800           2/2019         2940

 8.5             14755           8/2020         4690

 9.0             18400          12/2019        7000

 9.2             28800           7/2020         10500

 

Thank you for any time you can spend on this

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Can you add scores for Black Rider (Atlas) 14, 15 and 16? I think they should match issue 13. They currently sit blank. Thanks. 

Hello @BarristerBaker,

The scores were blank as the slots did not contain books. I added #14 and #16 but CGC has not graded #15. Thank you

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Sub-Mariner Comics #1
CGC 4.0 Universal - Points 4180, November 2019 Sale: $16800

Sub-Mariner Comics #9
CGC 8.0 Universal - Points 1500, December 2020 Sale: $5500
CGC 8.0 Universal - Points 1500, December 2020 Sale: $6500

Sub-Mariner Comics #11
CGC 3.5 Universal - Points: 200, August 2019 Sale: $3120.
CGC 3.0 Universal - Points: 187, August 2020 Sale: $4500.

Sub-Mariner Comics #13
CGC 5.5 Universal - Points: 300, November 2020 Sale: $4560.

And the rest of the set when you get around to it.  Thank you kind sir!

Scores updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

 

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Please adjust GSXM 1

8.0 is selling for as much ASM 300 in 9.8 (direct version)

While there are more 8.0 GSXM or higher than 9.8 ASM 300

GSXM in 8.0 is only worth 600 points while 300 in 9.8 is 1800 points

Just thought I'd mention  and 8.5  seen a rise

So has IH 7.5 to 8.0, no longer selling for $3000-3500, now is selling for $4500 in 7.5 and more in 8.0

But speaking of which lol

Asm #300 in 9.8 has similarly rose in value to $4500-5000 (direct  version)so I dont know if it needs an adjustment as well

Along with ASM #298 and 299 now sell for (direct version) but not for as long 

Score updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

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Hello Everyone,

I am pleased to announce that the 2021 CGC Registry award will be announced on July 23rd. The annual freeze for requests will be on June 12th. I understand that the score, set, and slot requests are very far behind but I assure you that the wheels are in motion. We will try to have the threads as up to date as possible in order to allow everyone to produce their most competitive sets. Best of luck to everyone! (Private sets will not be considered for awards and will need to be made public prior to June 23rd)

https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/8901/2021-CGC-registry-awards/

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Hi Matt,

       Please update the score for Star Wars #68. GPA average for 9.8 copies is $1764 (11 sold), the most recent sale was for $2201 so this book is still trending up. Please also address the CPV score as these sell for a premium over regular newsstand & direct copies. Wouldn't hurt to look at Star Wars #42 as well, 90 day average GPA in 9.8 is $2597 (14 sold) with the most recent sale at $3,383.

Scores updated on 4/5/21. Thank you

 

 

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Hi Matt

Thanks for the great work you're continuing to do keeping the Registry up-to-date and a valuable resource for serious collectors.

I'd like to request a few reviews for Silver and Bronze Age books where Registry points have slipped behind sales trends in the current volatile market.

For convenience I've used the CGC Universal 9.4 grade as a barometer of relative values for Registry points and latest reported GPA sale prices in the table below:

Title # Significance of Book Current Registry Points for Universal 9.4 grade Most recent GPA for Universal 9.4 grade ($)
         
Amazing Spider-man 5 First Doctor Doom outside of Fantastic Four 12000 26400
Amazing Spider-man 15 First appearance of Kraven and first mention of Mary Jane Watson 7000 13200
Amazing Spider-man 23 Third Green Goblin - scarce in higher grades 2946 4600
Amazing Spider-man 25 First brief appearance of Mary Jane Watson - face not shown 1500 2300
Astonishing Tales (1970) 25 First appearance of Deathlok 250 425
Avengers 57 First appearance of Silver Age Vision 1650 2249
Avengers 85 First appearance of Squadron Supreme 210 789
Captain America 115 Red Skull appearance 120 185
Captain America 117 First appearance of the Falcon 1450 2635
Captain Marvel 4 Sub-Mariner appearance 120 225
Captain Marvel 21 Hulk appearance 90 175
Captain Marvel 22 Scarce in higher grades 45 260
Fantastic Four 4 First Silver Age Sub-Mariner 28500 38400
Fantastic Four 49 First Galactus and Silver Surfer cover 4250 9000
Fantastic Four 50 Classic Silver Surfer cover 4389 8400
Ghost Rider (1973) 1 First issue of own title 660 1250
Giant-Size X-Men 1 First appearance of new X-Men 3900 12500
Incredible Hulk (1968) 181 First full appearance of Wolverine 7800 15600
Incredible Hulk Annual 1 Classic Steranko cover 725 1499
Journey into Mystery 84 First appearance of Jane Foster - scarce in higher grades 15000 35850
Marvel Super-Heroes (1967) 20 First Doctor Doom solo story 470 1356
Marvel Tales (1964) 1 Reprints origins of Spider-man, Hulk, Thor and Iron Man 1500 4101
Special Marvel Edition 15 Origin and first appearance of Shang-Chi 750 1930
Strange Tales 138 First appearance of Eternity 900 1560
Strange Tales 146 Last Ditko Doctor Strange and only full Doctor Strange cover 300 900
Sub-Mariner (1968) 1 First Silver Age issue of own title and origin retold 1200 1850
Tales of Suspense 77 First appearance of Peggy Carter 330 440
Tales of Suspense 79 First Cosmic Cube and modern Red Skull 495 1080
Tales of Suspense 94 First appearance of Modok 630 1000
Tales to Astonish 35 First appearance of Ant-Man in costume 27000 51000
Thor 133 First full appearance of Ego 270 530
Thor 160 First full Galactus story outside of Fantastic Four 180 479
Thor 168 Galactus story and scarce in higher grades 420 1126
Thor 169 Origin of Galactus 200 700
Thor 185 Infinity story and scarce in higher grades 90 195
X-Men 14 First appearance of Sentinels 2550 4800
X-Men 22 Scarce in higher grades 765 1600
X-Men 42 Death of Changeling disguised as Professor X 600 1050
X-Men 49 Steranko cover and first appearance of Polaris 510 1750

I'd be grateful if you could take a look at these when yu can and make any adjustments where you believe there is a valid case.

Many thanks.

Jon

 Scores updated 5/12/21.

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I expected to see this thread hopping with the current values of the market....

do we need to still request a specific books in order to call attention?

just wondering :shy: 

Hello @ADAMANTIUM,

Yes, please provide any specific books that you wish to be considered for a scoring bump. Please note that we must limit the requests to those books that are grossly undervalued. Thank you

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asm #252 where 9.8's sell for $2,000

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=amazing+spider-man+252+cgc&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

asm 299 in 9.8 sell for $1,500

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=amazing+spider-man+299+cgc+9.8&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=amazing+spider-man+299+cgc&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

asm 298 in 9.8 sell for $1200

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=amazing+spider-man+298+cgc+9.8&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=amazing+spider-man+299+cgc+9.8&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

X-men #221 in 9.8 sell for $5-600

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=x-men+221+cgc+9.8&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=amazing+spider-man+344+cgc+9.8&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

x-men 101 where 8.0 sell for $700

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=x-men+101+cgc&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=x-men+283+cgc&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

X-men #50 a little bump

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=x-men+50+cgc&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=x-men+100+cgc&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

X-men 49 as well

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=x-men+49+cgc&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=x-men+50+cgc&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

that's for starters, I may be not equating well, on what is grossly under-valued, so I'll study and try these out for starters :shy: 

 

Scores updated on all except X-Men #49 & #101 on 5/12/21.

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