Popular Post OtherEric Posted January 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) For whatever reason, I realized we didn't have a thread dedicated to Pedigree magazines... or if we did, I don't recall ever seeing it and my search-fu couldn't find it. I figure if even I have a few books that qualify, others here must have some as well. So I'll start it with the few I have, and hopefully others will contribute as well. Let's start with a Gaines File Copy: Edited January 13, 2021 by OtherEric allthingskryptonite, The Lions Den, Randall Dowling and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 And then a couple of John G. Fantucchio books: Jasonmorris1000000, chevalmeow, The Lions Den and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthingskryptonite Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, OtherEric said: And then a couple of John G. Fantucchio books: Have any COA for these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, allthingskryptonite said: Have any COA for these? Sadly, I do not. I'm trusting that the MyComicShop listings when I bought them were correct. allthingskryptonite and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthingskryptonite Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, OtherEric said: Sadly, I do not. I'm trusting that the MyComicShop listings when I bought them were correct. Exactly. I have seen them on MCS. But they clearly say no COA. So I generally shy away from them. Great copies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) I love the idea of this thread. Not sure how many magazines showed up in what are traditionally identified as pedigrees. I know there were magazines in the following pedigrees/collections: Don Rosa Don & Maggie Thompson Fantucchio Gaines File Copies Heartland Jerry Weist Manitoba Massachusetts Pacific Coast Suscha News USAF Mildenhall White Mountain Winnipeg (?) others? Feel free to add to or correct anything on this list. Edit: Updated 16 January 2021 Edited January 17, 2021 by Randall Dowling Updated OtherEric and ThothAmon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, allthingskryptonite said: Exactly. I have seen them on MCS. But they clearly say no COA. So I generally shy away from them. Great copies! Why? The best pedigrees in the hobby don't have COAs. I really wouldn't let that keep you from buying them. You'll be missing out. oakman29, allthingskryptonite and The Lions Den 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Randall Dowling said: Why? The best pedigrees in the hobby don't have COAs. I really wouldn't let that keep you from buying them. You'll be missing out. Agreed. I didn't buy the Fantucchio books because they were pedigree books... I bought them because they were nice, affordable copies of books I wanted, and the pedigree was a bonus. The Mad, I bought from Metropolis specifically because I wanted to have a Gaines File Copy in my collection, so I get the impulse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, OtherEric said: Agreed. I didn't buy the Fantucchio books because they were pedigree books... I bought them because they were nice, affordable copies of books I wanted, and the pedigree was a bonus. The Mad, I bought from Metropolis specifically because I wanted to have a Gaines File Copy in my collection, so I get the impulse! And Gaines File Copies have particular qualities that are very desirable. Not all of them have the original certificates. I can't imagine anyone passing on one because it doesn't have a "COA". By the way, both the Fantucchio books and the GFCs are pretty awesome! OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post namisgr Posted January 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) White Mountain. My one and only pedigree magazine. Edited January 13, 2021 by namisgr ThothAmon, HighVoltage, Jayman and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Randall Dowling said: I love the idea of this thread. Not sure how many magazines showed up in what are traditionally identified as pedigrees. I know there were magazines in the following pedigrees/collections: Winnipeg (or is Manitoba? I'm getting old...) White Mountain Fantucchio Gaines File Copies Jerry Weist Don & Maggie Thompson others? Feel free to add to or correct anything on this list. I’m not getting picky here but genuinely want to know which are considered “collections” as opposed to “pedigrees”? As in recognized by CGC. ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chevalmeow Posted January 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 Supposedly a White Mountain. No COA. Date stamped on inside first page. Larryw7, Randall Dowling, jimjum12 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypse76 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Jayman said: I’m not getting picky here but genuinely want to know which are considered “collections” as opposed to “pedigrees”? As in recognized by CGC. Collections consist of books that could have been acquired by any means to become part of the same collection at some point in time. Pedigree means all the books in that collection were acquired directly off the rack by one collector and are made up of a certain percentage of Golden Age, Silver Age etc. books. There are many collections out there but not many known pedigrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypse76 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I don't intentionally avoid them but I tend not to buy them because they usually cost significantly more than non pedigree books in the same grade. A good example of that comes to mind pertaining to Gaines File Copies. I love EC and I think it would be really cool to own a Gaines File Copy but they seem to cost hundreds of dollars more than the same issue in the same grade without that designation. That designation just isn't worth that much more to me, I guess we all have our weaknesses that we will sucker up for but pedigree just isn't one of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, apocalypse76 said: I don't intentionally avoid them but I tend not to buy them because they usually cost significantly more than non pedigree books in the same grade. A good example of that comes to mind pertaining to Gaines File Copies. I love EC and I think it would be really cool to own a Gaines File Copy but they seem to cost hundreds of dollars more than the same issue in the same grade without that designation. That designation just isn't worth that much more to me, I guess we all have our weaknesses that we will sucker up for but pedigree just isn't one of mine. Agreed in general; I paid extra for my GFC MAD... but went for an issue of MAD because it was still only about 30 dollars and half of that was shipping. It was a way of getting my one and only GFC on the relatively cheap. The Fantucchio books at MyComicShop are not, for the most part, price bumped; so I'll grab them over similar copies when I come across it on a book I'm looking for anyway. The Lions Den and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) @Jayman : The official list of the 60 pedigrees recognized by CGC, there's a couple others people will sometimes argue for: https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/pedigree/ The three pedigrees we've seen so far in the thread... Gaines File Copy, John G. Fantucchio, and White Mountain... are all on the list. Edited January 13, 2021 by OtherEric Jayman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalypse76 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, OtherEric said: The official list of the 60 pedigrees recognized by CGC, there's a couple others people will sometimes argue for: https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/pedigree/ The three pedigrees we've seen so far in the thread... Gaines File Copy, John G. Fantucchio, and White Mountain... are all on the list. If there are 60 pedigrees there must be hundreds of "collections" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jayman Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, apocalypse76 said: Collections consist of books that could have been acquired by any means to become part of the same collection at some point in time. Pedigree means all the books in that collection were acquired directly off the rack by one collector and are made up of a certain percentage of Golden Age, Silver Age etc. books. There are many collections out there but not many known pedigrees. Thanks, I know the difference. Was wondering which are recognized by CGC. For instance, the Diamond Run collection used to be recognized by CGC. After concluding that non OO books were included in that collection, CGC no longer recognizes these books as such. Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
