Bludriver Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I have around 20 books that someone put 3 extra staples along the spine. There was no need for them as the books are firmly attached to the original staples. If the books are otherwise let's say 8.0, how much of a grade hit would these get? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Bludriver said: I have around 20 books that someone put 3 extra staples along the spine. There was no need for them as the books are firmly attached to the original staples. If the books are otherwise let's say 8.0, how much of a grade hit would these get? Thanks! Maybe a qualified 8.0? Maybe a PLOD at worst. Sometimes I want to time travel and have a frank exchange of ideas with people who blacked out teeth on covers and added staples. Bludriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludriver Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Randall Ries said: Maybe a qualified 8.0? Maybe a PLOD at worst. Sometimes I want to time travel and have a frank exchange of ideas with people who blacked out teeth on covers and added staples. Thanks. It took me a little bit of time to figure out what PLOD was I would never have them graded, but if I decide to sell them I am trying to figure out what grade to give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Bludriver said: Thanks. It took me a little bit of time to figure out what PLOD was I would never have them graded, but if I decide to sell them I am trying to figure out what grade to give them. Aw. They might be a tough sell. I guess if they look 8.0 then sell them based on that. Bludriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I've seen books with extra staples (not manufacturing) get a green label, but I've also seen them get a blue label. And I'm not just referring to low grade books, either---these were books in the VF range... Bludriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Universal label noting "staples added". The Lions Den, Bludriver and KCOComics 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 14 hours ago, Angel of Death said: Universal label noting "staples added". Bingo. KCOComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serling1978 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 4:19 PM, Randall Ries said: Maybe a qualified 8.0? Maybe a PLOD at worst. Sometimes I want to time travel and have a frank exchange of ideas with people who blacked out teeth on covers and added staples. I get your point and often feel the same way, but remembering that comic collecting wasn't what it was now back in the old days, professional grading was decades away, and the owners were often times kids who weren't speculating on future value for some other owner, helps. That is of course assuming the books are older and the actions were taken at the time by the original owner and not by some recent dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 minute ago, serling1978 said: I get your point and often feel the same way, but remembering that comic collecting wasn't what it was now back in the old days, professional grading was decades away, and the owners were often times kids who weren't speculating on future value for some other owner, helps. That is of course assuming the books are older and the actions were taken at the time by the original owner and not by some recent dummy. Oh yes. I say that with tongue in cheek. Kids are kids. Who knew? In the early mid seventies, we were starting to figure out "Hey. These things are worth....Something." Just not sure what. Even as late as 1983, I had an opportunity to buy a Bat 1 6.0-ish for $3,000. Didn't have $3,000 as a 20 year old in a recession. Ain't it the way things go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludriver Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 Back in the 70's I remember seeing a FF #1 for $90 hanging on a string, (attached with clothes pins), in a book store. I asked my parents that night for $90 to buy it and they laughed all night until they fell asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill the Governor Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Absolutely no way added staples would be a purple label. Except if the originals were taken out and replaced with non-period ones. Otherwise, its a grade hit of anywhere from a half grade to a few grades depending on the sitting condition of the book. Bludriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SigS Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Would an added staple(s) attaching a cover that would otherwise be detached be treated like tape doing the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 3/31/2021 at 6:32 AM, serling1978 said: I get your point and often feel the same way, but remembering that comic collecting wasn't what it was now back in the old days, professional grading was decades away, and the owners were often times kids who weren't speculating on future value for some other owner, helps. That is of course assuming the books are older and the actions were taken at the time by the original owner and not by some recent dummy. Darn kids. Get the heck off my lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 My Tom Mix Ralston-Purina promo had the original staples removed and two extra staples added after manufacture. Still got a Universal 4.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 5:00 PM, PovertyRow said: My Tom Mix Ralston-Purina promo had the original staples removed and two extra staples added after manufacture. Still got a Universal 4.5. Do you have any idea if they were vintage staples and would that make a difference between Universal and Restored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serling1978 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 6:20 PM, shadroch said: Darn kids. Get the heck off my lawn. Let me just get a broom out to shoo them away. "Go on. GET!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 8:22 PM, grendelbo said: Do you have any idea if they were vintage staples and would that make a difference between Universal and Restored? I don't know for sure but assume they are vintage staples. However, how this would fall today into the Universal/Conserved/Restored category would require the Oracle of Delphi to predict! grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 3:37 PM, PovertyRow said: I don't know for sure but assume they are vintage staples. However, how this would fall today into the Universal/Conserved/Restored category would require the Oracle of Delphi to predict! Thanks. IMO Universal. I dig your idea though. PovertyRow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
