USPS ruined a golden age gem 3 3

[Silver_Couch_Surfer]

Damn, GPA is around $500 for this GA book too. 

[Turnando]

IMO, the seller was negligent.  A priority mailer envelope is no way to ship a nice comic.

I know the comic was in a case but that's still negligence.  Envelopes get raped by sorting machines.  Also, I have a mailman who would try his best to fold that thing to make it fit in my mailbox.  I hate it when folks ship me books in envelopes.

[WolverineX]

10 minutes ago, Nic8612 said:

Generally no. They assign a value to the damage done and give you that, assuming it was insured for enough.  

 

For example: I had a JIM 83 get damaged during shipping because Desert Wind Comics is run by people who know nothing about how to handle comics (mailed it to me in a freaking envelope). One of the corners was torn off of the book and USPS sent me a check for a whopping $200

 

10 minutes ago, shadroch said:

If you didn't declare a value, it's $50. If you want more, even if it insured you have to show the books worth, and good luck trying to convince them a two inch tear ruins the books value.

Yikes, so Insurance is worthless... so what is the safest method?  Registered mail?

[Nic8612]

Just now, Turnando said:

IMO, the seller was negligent.  A priority mailer envelope is no way to ship a nice comic.

I know the comic was in a case but that's still negligence.  Envelopes get raped by sorting machines.  Also, I have a mailman who would try his best to fold that thing to make it fit in my mailbox.  I hate it when folks ship me books in envelopes.

Look more closely.....that mangled thing....... IS A BOX

[Nic8612]

2 minutes ago, CatskillMike said:

Question- Why did USPS pay you, the receiver, instead of the sender, who purchased the insurance?

Because I filed the claim. I was the owner of the book so it was my property. I paid for the shipping and the insurance as well

[Robot Man]

Man, as an EC collector, that breaks my heart. 

How much actual damage did the book it’s self take? The holder is toast.

Can you file with Paypal for a refund?

[kav]

THIS is why I ship all books including drek packed between 2 sheets of @ADAMANTIUM

[NewWorldOrder]

1 hour ago, Nic8612 said:

I was getting ready to blame whoever shipped it to you, thinking they just put it in one of those flimsy cardboard USPS envelopes. I cant believe they mangled that box that far beyond recognition. 

 

You have an easy claim if it was insured. They won't ask you to have over the book. You just submit the claim with pics and they'll mail you a check for their determined amount

Not that easy anymore.  I had a bad one as well and they sent me a letter saying I need to bring the item in for an postal inspection.  PO is broke, they are denying claims left and right unfortunately now.    OP might have to jump through hoops to get his money. 

Edited June 6, 2021 by NewWorldOrder

[MattTheDuck]

I would welcome the opportunity to projectile vomit on whomever is responsible for this.

[Nic8612]

2 minutes ago, NewWorldOrder said:

Not that easy anymore.  I had a bad one as well and they sent me a letter saying I need to bring the item in for an postal inspection.  PO is broke, they are denying claims left and right unfortunately now.    OP might have to jump through hoops to get his money. 

Ugh, yea my ordeal was a while ago

[rjpb]

Yikes! I've seen some mangled boxes before, but that takes the cake.  

[Qalyar]

1 hour ago, Nic8612 said:

Look more closely.....that mangled thing....... IS A BOX

Was a box. 

Seriously, no packaging would have survived what must have happened to this one. Hopefully, USPS will be non-argumentative about restitution. Also hopefully the book itself is at least salvageable....

[BigLeagueCHEW]

1 hour ago, kav said:

THIS is why I ship all books including drek packed between 2 sheets of @ADAMANTIUM

I package 2 used mattresses I find in back alleys between drek, is that overkill guys?  

[BigLeagueCHEW]

4 hours ago, Gary Strange said:

A picture is worth 1000 words:

Looks like the sorting machine did this, I would have refused the delivery. Then make the seller deal with the USPS.

[kav]

8 minutes ago, BigLeagueCHEW said:

Looks like the sorting machine did this, I would have refused the delivery. Then make the seller deal with the USPS.

Postman goes to deliver it and "Nope".

[BigLeagueCHEW]

2 minutes ago, kav said:

Postman goes to deliver it and "Nope".

Couldn’t even deliver it with an insurance form? Was the USPS thinking, hopefully the contents are un damaged  , 

[kav]

This story is more horrifical than anything in Tales from the Crypt!

[Gary Strange]

2 hours ago, Robot Man said:

Man, as an EC collector, that breaks my heart. 

How much actual damage did the book it’s self take? The holder is toast.

Can you file with Paypal for a refund?

The seller is giving me a full refund. I think if he wants to send it back to CGC for a press and regrade it might still be salvageable. But it ain’t gonna be a 5.0 again. 

Edited June 6, 2021 by Gary Strange

[Tnexus]

1 hour ago, NewWorldOrder said:

Not that easy anymore.  I had a bad one as well and they sent me a letter saying I need to bring the item in for an postal inspection.  PO is broke, they are denying claims left and right unfortunately now.    OP might have to jump through hoops to get his money. 

The fact that they put a sticker on there that says, "Received in Damaged Condition" should be the an easy insurance claim. Every claim I've had has been surprisingly painless. I hope the seller was smart enough to add additional insurance though.

[NewWorldOrder]

4 minutes ago, Tnexus said:

The fact that they put a sticker on there that says, "Received in Damaged Condition" should be the an easy insurance claim. Every claim I've had has been surprisingly painless. I hope the seller was smart enough to add additional insurance though.

Yes same for me.  This is new thing USPS is doing now.

Before easy, now hoops!