MIL0S Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I was shocked by the $38k final hammer (John Romita Jr and Al Williamson Daredevil #261 pg 8) for this piece. is this an extreme outlier or (new) normal for this era JRJR DD art? Besides featuring Kingpin and Typhoid Mary is there some particular significance to this issue that I'm overlooking? Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Yep, totally sustainable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Certainly looks absurd, and it doesn’t seem “special” in any logical way unless someone is trying to complete a book, money be damned. Perhaps this is the effect of the pure investors reputedly entering the field through their tie up with Heritage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry E. Gibbs Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 It looked like two guys just going for it. I think it opened at around $2k, so not even a lot of tracking bids. That is usually a sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) Very little in this market surprises me anymore, I just add 100-200% to 3 years ago prices (up to 300% if it's certain '90s drek) depending on the piece, and people think I'm like Nostradamus when I end up being so spot-on most of the time these days. This result, on the other hand, was surprising to even me, because this is more like somewhere in the 500-1000% range over 2018 prices I would guess, for something that is a pretty page. Edited September 13, 2021 by delekkerste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 As a completely uninformed person I looked this up to see what the fuss was all about. My first impression is that this is a really ugly looking piece of art. That third panel... Terry E. Gibbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/12/2021 at 8:39 PM, cstojano said: As a completely uninformed person I looked this up to see what the fuss was all about. My first impression is that this is a really ugly looking piece of art. That third panel... https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/john-romita-jr-and-al-williamson-daredevil-261-story-page-8-original-art-marvel-1988-/a/7246-97374.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 For real tho, this one makes NO sense at all. Rick2you2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post glendgold Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 A few auctions ago, I was watching the live feed and my cat walked across the keyboard before I could hit "disable live bidding." Maybe two bidders with two cats? Stefanomjr, J.Sid, Taylor G and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 All I know is I went in and bump up the price on the stuff I have listed on consignment Rick2you2 and Twanj 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I was watched the whole thing. My jaw dropped lower at every bid. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitmusicblue Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Completionist?? grapeape and Rick2you2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PGEAR12 Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Heard the consignor was also the winning bidder, the underbidder, and an employee of the auction house vodou, Rick2you2, batman_fan and 6 others 4 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I am no big fan of JRjr, and I hated the Typhoid Mary character when the books were coming out but this page has a lot going for it. I am not in any way justifying the price, but as the bidding continued to crawl up I figured great shots of Kingpin and Typhoid Mary, Kingpin being his hypermasculine self, I see why someone might enjoy the page. I thought the $3K for the new JRjr covers was sillier, just bad in so many ways as far as I am concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retronymXX Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Aha, the page is now offered in the CAF: https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1755914&GSub=219059 Asking price is 50k ;-) Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 10:12 AM, retronymXX said: Aha, the page is now offered in the CAF: https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1755914&GSub=219059 Asking price is 50k ;-) That's a different page. But still! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retronymXX Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 4:15 PM, Twanj said: That's a different page. But still! Oh that's right, the pages look the same to me. I let myself be fooled... vodou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) On 9/13/2021 at 8:00 AM, Bird said: I am no big fan of JRjr, and I hated the Typhoid Mary character when the books were coming out but this page has a lot going for it. I am not in any way justifying the price, but as the bidding continued to crawl up I figured great shots of Kingpin and Typhoid Mary, Kingpin being his hypermasculine self, I see why someone might enjoy the page. I thought the $3K for the new JRjr covers was sillier, just bad in so many ways as far as I am concerned. Maybe...but the bottom half of the page is "throwaway" IMO Edited September 13, 2021 by pemart1966 Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/12/2021 at 8:39 PM, cstojano said: As a completely uninformed person I looked this up to see what the fuss was all about. My first impression is that this is a really ugly looking piece of art. That third panel... ...not to mention the whole bottom half of the page...absurd price...but as they say...art is subjective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 10:40 AM, pemart1966 said: ...not to mention the whole bottom half of the page...absurd price...but as they say...art is subjective... Whatever drove up this price, it was not quality of work. Bird, delekkerste and pemart1966 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo M Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 6:39 PM, Rick2you2 said: Whatever drove up this price, it was not quality of work. Defintitely there were a few instances in this HA auction were prices and artistic content were decoupled to say the least. I would also mention the Liefeld New Mutants page as an example where there must have bees some sort of significance to a subset of collectors (at least two) resulting in the price. In the case of the NM page at least we have a hint at what it was (first Deadpool punch?). In this case I can't see it, even though the page itself is quite interesting and well executed. Some other prices were quite surprising, but I feel the content was quite strong (like the Byrne XM 113 page or, at a totally different price point, the Brunner Doc Strange fetching a splash price) Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
