TC33 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) The conserved label would be highly desirable vs purple. CGC has their own in house team that will remove it and resubmit it for you. They can't guarantee the same grade but it its really small it should still be in that same 3.5/4.0 range give or take I believe. If for some reason the color touch was too big and impossible to remove without destroying the books appearance/grade, as an alternate idea, they could even add slight color touch to keep it at the slight 1 level, but probably bump it up to a restored B1 5.0+ range? The first option is the better one though and I would think should be worth the cost. The second option is more of a break even to slight gain at best but gets you a better presenting book that's still only slightly restored. Edited October 22, 2021 by TC33 Figment and FFB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 1:19 PM, TC33 said: The conserved label would be highly desirable vs purple. CGC has their own in house team that will remove it and resubmit it for you. They can't guarantee the same grade but it its really small it should still be in that same 3.5/4.0 range give or take I believe. If for some reason the color touch was too big and impossible to remove without destroying the books appearance/grade, as an alternate idea, they could even add slight color touch to keep it at the slight 1 level, but probably bump it up to a restored B1 5.0+ range? The first option is the better one though and I would think should be worth the cost. The second option is more of a break even to slight gain at best but gets you a better presenting book that's still only slightly restored. This +1. Many collectors forget to consider the 2nd option, but it's a good way to go when the 1st option doesn't work. Grottu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Love the date stamp! And no chipping, that's a beauty! I've got an FF1 that Kenny Sanderson worked on for me at CGC right now. Hoping for the best. FFB and jeranimal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grottu Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 5:07 PM, gadzukes said: This +1. Many collectors forget to consider the 2nd option, but it's a good way to go when the 1st option doesn't work. A lot of the time, “slight” restoration is sort of like being half pregnant; once you commit if often makes more sense to keep going to maximize the result. gadzukes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figment Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Thank for the thoughts all. I decided to send it back for restoration removal (if possible) and hopefully that blue/grey label. Stay tuned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figment Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 Results of screening... The evaluation of this invoice is complete. The Fantastic Four #1 was approved for color touch removal only. CCS determined that the book would then be graded as a conserved book. I am pleased and optimistic the grade won't drop too much. Grottu and jeranimal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finhead Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 8:44 AM, Figment said: Results of screening... The evaluation of this invoice is complete. The Fantastic Four #1 was approved for color touch removal only. CCS determined that the book would then be graded as a conserved book. I am pleased and optimistic the grade won't drop too much. Any pics of the book with the CT removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figment Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 10:09 AM, Finhead said: Any pics of the book with the CT removed? Not yet, but you'll see it here first. djzombi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finhead Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 9:45 AM, Figment said: Not yet, but you'll see it here first. Just curious where it was, and how much of the cover they had to remove to take it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Figment Posted November 15, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 No loss of grade after CT removal. Now I'm off to the task of comparing the purple label image to the blue/grey label image to see if I can spot the difference. Thank you all, this is indeed what I was hoping for in the first place! Grottu, jeranimal, Sauce Dog and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figment Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 The CT was an attempt to hide the bottom left corner fold. The removal is most noticeable on the bottom of The Thing's left leg. KCOComics and Stronguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grottu Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 4:35 PM, Figment said: The CT was an attempt to hide the bottom left corner fold. The removal is most noticeable on the bottom of The Thing's left leg. Ah, very stealthy…oh well, I had The Thing pegged, but wrong body part! Figment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Restoration Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 10:42 AM, Figment said: Done in 1997 before there was a distinction, I asked Susan Cicconi to help this book survive the continuing passage of time. The intent was conservation, not restoration, but I don''t know enough about today's standards to know which color label it would receive? Thoughts? I've obscured the title so as not to obscure or influence any judgements. Thanks! This book could qualify for conservation, but CGC's Discretions makes it's outcome open for interpretation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeranimal Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 11/15/2021 at 4:30 PM, Figment said: No loss of grade after CT removal. Now I'm off to the task of comparing the purple label image to the blue/grey label image to see if I can spot the difference. Thank you all, this is indeed what I was hoping for in the first place! That is a gorgeous 4.0 Conserved book! Congrats! And it looks so much better with a Conserved label than a PLOD Figment and gadzukes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Zipper Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) Nice looking book. I've always maintained that they should only PLOD books when the "restoration" improves the apparent grade. For instance, you would not plod a low grade book with a small marker color hit. In the lower grades, marker hits and glue would be just part of the accumulation of flaws acceptable in that range. This is a perfect example of that. The color touch did nothing to improve the grade and it was PLOD. Removing the color touch and the book is the same grade. Edited January 21, 2022 by Mr. Zipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
