2Sunny Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/29/2021 at 11:05 PM, shadroch said: No, it doesn't. The card was misprinted. What is labeled as white was wrong, as is every other designation. It is worthless. Worth than worthless if you think it is accurate. As with everything else in this hobby you are entitled to your opinion, but "worthless" is an assessment you are making, and obviously not literally true as they continue to sell the card for money. Again as a basic sense of what is meant by "white" in this hobby it is a start, and better than having nothing as a reference. Juno Beach and kav 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 6:28 AM, Joe Peck said: As with everything else in this hobby you are entitled to your opinion, but "worthless" is an assessment you are making, and obviously not literally true as they continue to sell the card for money. Again as a basic sense of what is meant by "white" in this hobby it is a start, and better than having nothing as a reference. One can lead a newbie to the fountain of knowledge, but you can't make him drink. Please continue to use the card. It will be perfect for you. Juno Beach, Lazyboy and badback83 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) On 10/29/2021 at 9:14 PM, Joe Peck said: I sent it in today. We'll see I'm curious how you arrived at the $50 FMV for the Cap? If you seriously think it is a 9.0+ then would it not be worth more than that? Earlier in thread I cited a couple of GPA results. A recent 9.2 sale for $80. I realize $30 is not a big deal and doesn't impact insurance coverage much if any but I really am curious what sources you used. And if I were you, I wouldn't have posted my address, telephone number and account number, I will be more than happy to edit my post and remove the quote if you wish to edit yours. And I may have missed it but what grades are you thinking on the other two books? Good luck. Edited October 30, 2021 by telerites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badback83 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 10:30 AM, telerites said: I'm curious how you arrived at the $50 FMV for the Cap? If you seriously think it is a 9.0+ then would it not be worth more than that? Earlier in thread I cited a couple of GPA results. A recent 9.2 sale for $80. I realize $30 is not a big deal and doesn't impact insurance coverage much if any but I really am curious what sources you used. And if I were you, I wouldn't have posted my address, telephone number and account number, I will be more than happy to edit my post and remove the quote if you wish to edit yours. And I may have missed it but what grades are you thinking on the other two books? Good luck. He said he doesn’t care if his info is on the post because you can find it online anyway. WheresMyGlasses?, telerites and Terry JSA 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) On 10/30/2021 at 10:30 AM, telerites said: I'm curious how you arrived at the $50 FMV for the Cap? If you seriously think it is a 9.0+ then would it not be worth more than that? Earlier in thread I cited a couple of GPA results. A recent 9.2 sale for $80. I realize $30 is not a big deal and doesn't impact insurance coverage much if any but I really am curious what sources you used. And if I were you, I wouldn't have posted my address, telephone number and account number, I will be more than happy to edit my post and remove the quote if you wish to edit yours. And I may have missed it but what grades are you thinking on the other two books? Good luck. I don’t believe it’s a 9, but I think there is a very slim chance the clean and press MIGHT bring it up to a 9 IF the press takes out the spine bends and the cover color is considered normal. I don’t see that as likely but maybe. Anyways, the last lowest CGC sale was 2018 8.5 for $50, the only current CGC is a 9.0 and they are asking $250 and then on EBay there are 15 Raws listed ranging from $10 to $57 and I believe mine to be in better condition than the best Raw currently offered on EBay hence the $50 guess. Of course I have no interest in selling but I had to put something so that’s how I came up with the number. https://www.ebay.com/itm/312652523472 https://www.ebay.com/itm/294093913385?hash=item44795cfd29:g:kG8AAOSw34hgY5sP Edited October 30, 2021 by Joe Peck kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) On 10/29/2021 at 12:56 AM, 2Sunny said: Looks like my first test will get done pretty quick. I sent a box of 10 comics (that I intend to sell) in last week and they are already opened and being scheduled for grading. Here's my guess for each: Action Comics 261 - 4.0 Action Comics 263 - 4.5 Adventure Comics 260 - 5.5 Brave And Bold 36 - 6.0 Brave and Bold 44 - 6.5 Detective Comics 272 - 3.5 Detective Comics 277 - 5.0 Detective Comics 278 - 4.0 Justice League 5 - 4.0 Justice League 13 - 5.5 And here are the results of my first test. I over graded 2 out of 10. Not too hard to learn how to grade, but folks here think it's some kind of magic. Edited December 13, 2021 by 2Sunny Kevin.J, Larryw7 and ADAMANTIUM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Here's the data in a more digestible format. Expectations vs Reality Book 1. Predicted: 4.0 Actual: 4.5 Result: 1 point UNDER. 2. P: 4.5 A: 5.0. R: 1 point UNDER. 3. P: 5.5. A: 4.5. R: 2 points OVER. 4. P:6.0 A: 6.0 R: ACCURATE. 5. P: 6.5 A: 7.5 R: 2 points UNDER. 6. P: 3.5 A: 4.0 R: 1 point UNDER. 7. P: 5.0 A: 6.0 R: 2 points UNDER. 8. P: 4.0 A: 5.0 R: 2 points UNDER. 9. P. 4.0 A: 4.5 R: 1 point UNDER. 10. P: 5.5 A: 5.0 R: 1 point OVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I just read this whole thread again. Is there a scan of the back cover of the book in question? I'm going back to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 10:14 PM, 2Sunny said: And here are the results of my first test. I over graded 2 out of 10. Not too hard to learn how to grade, but folks here think it's some kind of magic. Well done, especially considering it's your first submission. Much better to under grade than over grade...within reason. Also, don't let the negativity of some of the boardies get to you. There are some good people here. djzombi and Kevin.J 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveinthecity Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 7:14 PM, 2Sunny said: And here are the results of my first test. I over graded 2 out of 10. Not too hard to learn how to grade, but folks here think it's some kind of magic. Congrats on the sub and dialing in so close to the final grades given. As far as any “magic” is concerned, I think many find the difficulty is in discerning a 9.0 from a 9.2, 9.2 from 9.4, etc.. The higher end grades often seem more difficult to pin down accurately. Namtak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namtak Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 10:14 PM, 2Sunny said: And here are the results of my first test. I over graded 2 out of 10. Not too hard to learn how to grade, but folks here think it's some kind of magic. Hey werent you named joe peck???? Dave2739 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveinthecity Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 2:15 PM, Namtak said: Hey werent you named joe peck???? it’s supposed to be a secret. lizards2, Namtak, Lord Gemini and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszumilo Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Any word on the Captain America yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) On 12/14/2021 at 2:39 AM, aszumilo said: Any word on the Captain America yet? No. I sent it for C&P. Received 11/9, and it's Fast Track/Economy so I expect it back end of next year. Edited December 14, 2021 by 2Sunny aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszumilo Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 8:12 AM, 2Sunny said: No. I sent it for C&P. Received 11/9, and it's Fast Track/Economy so I expect it back end of next year. Thanks. Curious to see if you hit your target grade on it. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2Sunny Posted July 5, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2022 Got the answer back today: steveinthecity, Courageous Cat, F For Fake and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 And a 9.0 is on sale on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2Sunny Posted July 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/27/2021 at 11:58 PM, aszumilo said: Not seeing a 9+ there. Foxing, spine ticks, something going on the upper right corner, spine roll. Looks closer to a 6.5, to me. On 10/28/2021 at 12:03 AM, kav said: YesI hate to burst a new guy's bubble but this is a 5.5 in my opinion. On 10/28/2021 at 8:06 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: Not a chance in Hel that this is 9.0+, unless you bribe PGX. On 10/28/2021 at 9:56 AM, shadroch said: Take the book to a convention and trade it and $25 for a nicer copy. Almost any dealer would make the trade and you wouln't have to wait six months and spend $80 to end up very disappointed. I understand you are new to this, but if you think this book is a 9, post some books you think are 7s, or even 6s. On 10/28/2021 at 1:01 PM, lostboys said: These threads give me funny feelings in my stomach. I feel bad... but he came out so strong and confident that I also wanna laugh. And then I feel bad again. On 10/28/2021 at 1:11 PM, universal soldier said: I would encourage the orignal poster to spend some time in the Spare a grade section as well as the various sales threads so they can get a sense of how others here grade, especially some of the more reputable sellers. I still find myself looking at my own books through rose colored glasses and struggle to not over grade them. On 10/28/2021 at 2:09 PM, classicaaron said: this has to be a joke thread or a troll right? based on the thread title alone, regardless of the grade its nowhere close to a super find. the grade is nowhere close to even VF let alone 9.0. so it has to be a joke or this is the same guy at the flea market with boxes of 90s drek thinking he has his retirement in front of him. On 10/28/2021 at 3:00 PM, seanfingh said: Telling someone that you believe their grading is incorrect is not scolding them. Some people just don't want to be told that the stove burner is hot. They need to check for themselves. Carry on. Hmm. It came back a 9.0 so what say you all now. Edited July 6, 2022 by 2Sunny STORMSHADOW_80, jcjames, F For Fake and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 5:28 PM, 2Sunny said: Hmm. It came back a 9.0 so what say you all now. I say I need to see pics of that slab and if true amazing and congratulations and glad I was wrong! Courageous Cat, Haljordanfan and Off Panel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Tell the truth, @2Sunny, you used Dylan's system on this book, didn't you...? Off Panel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
