EpicPulls Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 We have 56 more cards that we are waiting for at CGC however this is our first return from CGC let me know what you guys think of the grades. I don't disagree with the grade but I sure wish the center landed closer to a 9.5 to gem mint this bad boy. So happy to have this thing coming back finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poke_naynay Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 the back centering got you, maybe front top to bottom is a bit heavy. Beautiful card though! EpicPulls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicPulls Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 I also noticed the dang grade is not centered either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDub67 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I think the centering was harsh and should have been a 9 EpicPulls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:33 AM, poke_naynay said: the back centering got you, maybe front top to bottom is a bit heavy. Beautiful card though! yah looks like the back centering is the issue EpicPulls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicPulls Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 4:41 PM, NDub67 said: I think the centering was harsh and should have been a 9 I agree it could have been a 9 but in the end it wouldn't have changed the grade and still left it a overall 9 so I think that is why I'm not to upset. but it would have been much nicer to not have an 8.5 on the card. harsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoLaren Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 5:42 PM, EpicPulls said: I also noticed the dang grade is not centered either This was supposed to be fixed with the new labels. EpicPulls, when did you receive this card back from CGC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicPulls Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 9:33 AM, RoLaren said: This was supposed to be fixed with the new labels. EpicPulls, when did you receive this card back from CGC? I haven't even received it back yet. shipped 11/3. pics from cgc site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoLaren Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 3:54 PM, EpicPulls said: I haven't even received it back yet. shipped 11/3. pics from cgc site. @PaulS. Weren't the new labels supposed to fix the centering issue in the grade box? EpicPulls has a scan of a card that shipped from CGC on 11/3 and it has the centering issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeGrownPoke1 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 5:57 PM, RoLaren said: @PaulS. Weren't the new labels supposed to fix the centering issue in the grade box? EpicPulls has a scan of a card that shipped from CGC on 11/3 and it has the centering issue. It's the old label and not the new ones. PaulS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator PaulS. Posted November 10, 2021 Administrator Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 1:41 AM, HomeGrownPoke1 said: It's the old label and not the new ones. This is correct. There will still be some old labels trickling out on slower tiers. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicPulls Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 5:37 AM, PaulS. said: This is correct. There will still be some old labels trickling out on slower tiers. Paul @PaulS. Seems like you guys would toss out the old labels knowing there is an issue with them... Is this something you guys will fix if the card is sent back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator PaulS. Posted November 15, 2021 Administrator Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 12:16 PM, EpicPulls said: @PaulS. Seems like you guys would toss out the old labels knowing there is an issue with them... Is this something you guys will fix if the card is sent back? No. These aren't cards that are getting the old labels now. These are cards that were holdered in old labels before the change and are being shipped out. The old labels were just fine, but the new ones are of course an improvement. However, we would only offer a free reholder if the grade was printed outside of tolerances on the old label. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicPulls Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 @PaulS. Does CGC offer an option to have a grade reconsidered on a card? I know some other grading companies do but wasn't sure if CGC offers that. I know grading is speculative and surface, corners, edges would be a tough thing to argue. But after receiving a lot of feed back from other collectors I really feel something went wrong here on the centering just based of a lot of other cgc graded cards. Hoping my only option isnt trying with another grading company as I really like the cgc slabs. here a few comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator PaulS. Posted November 17, 2021 Administrator Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/17/2021 at 11:19 AM, EpicPulls said: @PaulS. Does CGC offer an option to have a grade reconsidered on a card? I know some other grading companies do but wasn't sure if CGC offers that. I know grading is speculative and surface, corners, edges would be a tough thing to argue. But after receiving a lot of feed back from other collectors I really feel something went wrong here on the centering just based of a lot of other cgc graded cards. Hoping my only option isnt trying with another grading company as I really like the cgc slabs. here a few comparisons. Sent ya a DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoLaren Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) On 11/17/2021 at 2:33 PM, PaulS. said: Sent ya a DM. @PaulS. Is there anything that you could share with the board? I am interested in hearing an answer to the question he asked. That last card he showed clearly had worse centering left to right on the front than his card did on either front or back, yet it received a 9 and his an 8.5. Edited November 17, 2021 by RoLaren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyMouse Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 1:24 PM, PaulS. said: ... The old labels were just fine, but the new ones are of course an improvement. However, we would only offer a free reholder if the grade was printed outside of tolerances on the old label. Paul I'm curious what constitutes "outside of tolerances" for off center grades on the old labels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASEnBLUE Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 9:12 AM, EpicPulls said: We have 56 more cards that we are waiting for at CGC however this is our first return from CGC let me know what you guys think of the grades. I don't disagree with the grade but I sure wish the center landed closer to a 9.5 to gem mint this bad boy. So happy to have this thing coming back finally. These came back earlier in the year but I did not take back photos. Comparison for the front of the card however if it helps... onlyweaknesskryptonite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...