wombat Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I wish I could blame Blackstone. That would make it slightly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 They could have at least made them Sig Series mattn792, Tony S and Larryw7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-dali Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 3:57 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: They could have at least made them Sig Series Yeah, imagine how much more money they would sell for if they were signed by "ghost" Stan Lee or "ghost" Jack Kirby! Oh, the signatures don't look real? What do expect from a ghost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figment Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Pay for grades, nothing else. It cuts at CGC's credibility and reputation, and frankly makes them looks stupid and desperate. Not to mention impartiality is right out the window, joke or not. Those pointing to the hypocrisy of some of the Promise grades are correct, this is a serious strike two against a company we are supposed to be able to trust. It doesn't make me angry, only disappointed but not too surprised. Sigh. OJ Pimpson, Sigur Ros, Tony S and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 @CGC Mike We're a couple days into the work week. Any word back on this? @Matt Nelson I'm sure you don't actually read the forums or check forum pings, but ... ping on this one all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 9:10 PM, Iceman399 said: https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/1627321034/ Yup they are real serial numbers Yeah, this is a gimmick, but my main concern with this is the grade! How the heck is this a 9.8? I don't see a single spine tick, not a scratch, nothing at all! This should be a 10 - Gem Mint or NG. Who graded this one, Matt Nelson or Matt Murdock?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warden5523 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 5:14 PM, JazzMan said: Yeah, this is a gimmick, but my main concern with this is the grade! How the heck is this a 9.8? I don't see a single spine tick, not a scratch, nothing at all! This should be a 10 - Gem Mint or NG. Who graded this one, Matt Nelson or Matt Murdock?!! Then you'll have a real problem with the 0.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troydivision1 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 4:38 PM, Qalyar said: @CGC Mike We're a couple days into the work week. Any word back on this? @Matt Nelson I'm sure you don't actually read the forums or check forum pings, but ... ping on this one all the same. Reposting / pinging the appropriate parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman399 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I'm not sure if we should be shocked at the lack of response (cause that is their history in doing so). Expanding Tat's in the past - Ignore the boards with no response as to cause or changes Issues with SCS - Ignore the boards Lack of inner wells - gives response contradictory to practices and poof all of a sudden it's back to "normal" Creep Engine - These new cases are just fine you don't know what you are talking about Newton Rings - Come on guys they really aren't that bad stop whining. Quality Control - I mean it only took them like a year to even acknowledge there was issues and claim every book goes through a rigorous QC check Instead it's new signing announcement MetalPSI , Tony S, Sigur Ros and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 "Hello, I'd like to return this CGC'd comic that you sold me..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 12:25 PM, theCapraAegagrus said: "Hello, I'd like to return this CGC'd comic that you sold me..." Sorry. You swapped out the 10.0 with a 3.5 so no theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockmaster Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 So, is this why CGC's prices going up? Wasting slabs, manpower and time on this instead of using them on real comics? Larryw7 and bc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 3:28 PM, Shockmaster said: So, is this why CGC's prices going up? Wasting slabs, manpower and time on this instead of using them on real comics? Imagine having books at CGC for 9 months and these cut the line in front of you. Tony S and jimbo_7071 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony S Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 3:34 PM, wombat said: Imagine having books at CGC for 9 months and these cut the line in front of you. I'm sure they paid more $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigur Ros Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 2:07 PM, Ares said: Sorry. You swapped out the 10.0 with a 3.5 so no Based on many examples I've seen from CGC that 3.5 could very well have been graded a 10 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troydivision1 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 4:38 PM, Qalyar said: @CGC Mike We're a couple days into the work week. Any word back on this? @Matt Nelson I'm sure you don't actually read the forums or check forum pings, but ... ping on this one all the same. It's Friday night...72 hours have passed...still silence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) On 1/2/2022 at 8:07 AM, Sigur Ros said: On 1/1/2022 at 9:20 PM, Iceman399 said: Based on the grading date of Dec 2020 and the Blackstone deal not being until July of 2021 looks like this isn't their doing. Blackstone owns the company and these books remain on the census. They own this. Unfortunate, because that squashes the hope a new owner would fix CGC's bad rep, not enable it. I very much highly doubt that the Blackstone Group is even much aware of the daily goings on with CGC, less alone its intricate business details. Especially since the company is valued at something approaching $150B while the enntire CCG deal was worth only a tiny miniscule fraction of that at only $500M, with the overwhelming majority of that value apparently coming from the coin side of the business. Edited January 8, 2022 by lou_fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 5:46 PM, CGC Mike said: I will check into this. CGC is closed tomorrow so, it's possible I won't have a statement until next week. Hey Mike; So, what's the lowdown or latest on what you was able to find out from the powers that be on this little matter of interest here? Of course, since it's a Friday ight does this mean we now will have to wait until Monday when their offices are opened back up again? Or are their TAT's on responses to questions even slower than their TAT's on grading books and we should expect an answer from them some time in the New Year of 2023? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troydivision1 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Also Mike, would you be able to get someone to comment how a CGC .5 has NO Grader Notes available? (spoiler alert - none of the issues have Grader's Notes) From an outsider's perspective, how I'd spin this if I was a competitor, is that these grades were "Pay-To-Play". Which in turn can call in to question the validity of other grades issued / received. CGC Cert # 1627321001 Conceptual Funnies Issue 1 Issue Date 12/20 Issue Year 2020 Publisher Bad Idea Variant Invisible Edition Grade 0.5 Grade Date 12/18/2020 Grade Category Modern Label Text *not an actual invisible comic Art Comments Robert Venditti story / Tomas Giorello cover & art Key Comments First dis-appearance in comics.Grader Notes Unavailable Edited January 8, 2022 by Troy Division adampasz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 6:06 PM, lou_fine said: I very much highly doubt that the Blackstone Group is even much aware of the daily goings on with CGC, less alone its intricate business details. Especially since the company is valued at something approaching $150B while the enntire CCG deal was worth only a tiny miniscule fraction of that at only $500M, with the overwhelming majority of that value apparently coming from the coin side of the business. I would think that there is a CGC desk at Blackstone that is in at least daily contact with a counterpoint at CGC. These guys don't lay out hundreds of millions to acquire companies and then sit back and wait for the company's quarterly reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...