Lord Gemini Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:27 PM, WoWitHurts said: In what way? Quality? TAT’s? Cost? In the money you get for the slab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WoWitHurts Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:30 PM, Lord Gemini said: In the money you get for the slab. The more people that use CBCS and the more books CBCS grades that difference will become negligible IMO. Prince Namor, PetuniaGrimm, Larryw7 and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gemini Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:40 PM, WoWitHurts said: The more people that use CBCS and the more books CBCS grades that difference will become negligible IMO. And if that happens, so be it. I don't think it'll happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Good old Mba's squeezing out short term profit to make them look better. Who cares about long term. .. thehumantorch, JJ-4, Haljordanfan and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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William-James88 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:27 PM, WoWitHurts said: In what way? Quality? TAT’s? Cost? Final hammer price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:43 PM, Wolverinex said: Good old Mba's squeezing out short term profit to make them look better. Who cares about long term. .. And people think they would be care about making money off grading invisible comics. Beige and Nazirite 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrocHntr Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 Not to turn this into another CGC vs CBCS discussion, but as a buyer, I’m paying for an accurate grade. I really don’t care which Company’s slab I get as long as I can be confident the grading is accurate. And I’d pay the same price for either slab, so I don’t know why a seller would willingly sell one for less than the other. chrisco37, lizards2, silverseeker and 12 others 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:38 PM, Beige said: Steve Borock must be grinning from ear to ear. CBCS will be market leader in 18 months. What incentive is there to stay with CGC - quality control, 12 month waits, endless 'special sig signings' that very few people care about jumping the queue - and stupid stunts with empty cases. How to lose customers and trash your business 101 Corporate overlords have arrived Beige 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoWitHurts Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:47 PM, William-James88 said: Final hammer price The more people that use CBCS and the more books CBCS grades that difference will become negligible IMO. Beige, Tony S, KCOComics and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldOrder Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 1/10/2022 at 6:26 PM, alexgross.com said: i sure hope all the big dealers here will take their biz elsewhere. hearing about all the ways cgc is screwing its customers here, and now dealers, and then watching almost everyine continue to give them more and more of their money is getting a bit old. real change will not occur as long as everyone just bends over. Only if another company makes me more money. That's all it comes down to. All I see is a company in TX who had a golden opportunity to take some huge market share and as per usual they did nothing. Edited January 11, 2022 by NewWorldOrder buttock and arexcrooke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 2:25 PM, Lord Gemini said: Higher returns. The competition is a joke. No and No. Look around you - even HALO are massively increasing their number of slabs. PetuniaGrimm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 11:02 PM, Beige said: No and No. Look around you - even HALO are massively increasing their number of slabs. When is Wata going to join in the fun... theCapraAegagrus and Beige 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blazingbob Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 1/10/2022 at 10:53 PM, CrocHntr said: Not to turn this into another CGC vs CBCS discussion, but as a buyer, I’m paying for an accurate grade. I really don’t care which Company’s slab I get as long as I can be confident the grading is accurate. And I’d pay the same price for either slab, so I don’t know why a seller would willingly sell one for less than the other. It is not that the seller would sell one for less then the other. It is that the buyers won't pay the same price. Accurately graded books will always sell faster. If you are looking at a book and questioning the grade and it is the same when looking at lots of books you come to the determination that their grading is loose and that you automatically downgrade the book in the holder. CBCS did it to themselves, the market didn't do it. You get a reputation as a loose grader it sticks with you. Edited January 11, 2022 by blazingbob buttock, The Lions Den, MAY1979 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gemini Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:02 PM, Beige said: No and No. Look around you - even HALO are massively increasing their number of slabs. Yes and yes. I see the transactions on eBay, but believe what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WoWitHurts Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:06 PM, blazingbob said: It is not that the seller would sell one for less then the other. It is that the buyers won't pay the same price. Accurately graded books will always sell faster. If you are looking at a book and questioning the grade and it is the same when looking at lots of books you come to the determination that they grading is loose and that you automatically downgrade the book in the holder. CBCS did it to themselves, the market didn't do it. You get a reputation as a loose grader it sticks with you. Of the CBCS books I have I would say they are on par in their grading. The only thing that kept me with CGC is most of my runs are CGC. Next run I start I am going to go with best available books and not whether it is CGC or CBCS. Tony S, theCapraAegagrus, Tsp99 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D84 Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:06 PM, blazingbob said: It is not that the seller would sell one for less then the other. It is that the buyers won't pay the same price. Accurately graded books will always sell faster. If you are looking at a book and questioning the grade and it is the same when looking at lots of books you come to the determination that they grading is loose and that you automatically downgrade the book in the holder. CBCS did it to themselves, the market didn't do it. You get a reputation as a loose grader it sticks with you. With all due respect, CGC is not a model for consistency either. I've cracked CGC slabs that were severely over graded. People talk about the stricter and looser periods here, but it hasn't hurt their reputation because of its cult like following. Beige, alexgross.com, Cat and 19 others 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:44 PM, alexgross.com said: also, any time now, i expect these boards to either be shut down or a fee initiated in order to participate. I’ve said that for the last year. I see that coming to access the sales area. alexgross.com, D84 and Larryw7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:24 PM, Buzzetta said: I’ve said that for the last year. I see that coming to access the sales area. Maybe they'll do like Heritage and take a percentage from both the buyer and seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 11:26 PM, D84 said: Maybe they'll do like Heritage and take a percentage from both the buyer and seller. In order to do that they would have to create their own comic exchange… um wait. I see that coming too. D84, Chaz G. and JJ-4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...