bapowell Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Hi all, This book is in excellent shape. Bottom left corner of FC has what looks like a small scrape (not a tear); I see one spine tick. Corners are sharp. Tiny (~1mm) tear 2/3 way down leading edge of BC. The trouble is with the double bend/crease starting at the middle top of the FC and passing down diagonally through the 'L' in 'HULK'. I was able to mostly press the bend out, though it's still evident if the angle is right, and the crease shows up with a light color-break. Wondering what you all think this does to the grade. Thanks for looking! Galen130 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe9999 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) IMO 9.0 - 9.2. I looked at my copy to compare and you already mentioned the issues on the front but I see additional on the back. On the upper right corner it looks like there's some color rub in the blacks. Also on the left side parallel to the guy's knees there's color breaking creases. Plus the blunted corners and I'm leaning more 9.0 than 9.2. I added a pic of mine to compare. Edited January 14, 2022 by Christophe9999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I also think 9.0-9.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 8.0 IMO that color-breaking crease, despite the press, is it's major flaw and unacceptable in the NM range. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 1:37 AM, grendelbo said: 8.0 IMO that color-breaking crease, despite the press, is it's major flaw and unacceptable in the NM range. Thanks for posting. 8.0 at most thinking 7.5 grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoggyNelson Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I think 9.0 minimum😷👍‼️ Funnybooks and 1950's war comics 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 this would be a perfect book for the grading contest...how much does that crease hurt the grade grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapowell Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 11:21 AM, Funnybooks said: this would be a perfect book for the grading contest...how much does that crease hurt the grade Yes, indeed. There seems to be considerable disagreement! I'm debating sending this one in, but only if it has a chance of grading out at 8.5 or higher. I might pass... Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 11:46 AM, bapowell said: Yes, indeed. There seems to be considerable disagreement! I'm debating sending this one in, but only if it has a chance of grading out at 8.5 or higher. I might pass... can you measure the length of the crease and of that length, how much of it breaks color? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) my $.02 disregarding the crease for a moment, the front wrap appears 9.4 but this copy overall appears imho 8.0 without the crease... However, the back wrap is where the problems are... all four corners are soft, the left edge has that very evident color breaking crease and tear and some generalized color rub At this point, the crease may not even factor into the grade as much or may even slightly drag the grade down from here with all this said, CGc will probably grade this copy 9.0 and I'll go hide in the corner Edited January 15, 2022 by Funnybooks frozentundraguy, Point Five and grendelbo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 @grendelbo we should call the rest of the cavalry on this...i'm very curious about what the other guys would say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 10:14 AM, Funnybooks said: @grendelbo we should call the rest of the cavalry on this...i'm very curious about what the other guys would say... @Galen130 @Point Five @theCapraAegagrus @William-James88 @1950's war comics @zzutak @Math Teacher @Finhead @PunisherPunisherPunisher @KCOComics @Chief1332 @frozentundraguy @SNiPER @jbpez @Comics4All KCOComics, Funnybooks and frozentundraguy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frozentundraguy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 After looking at the book, and before looking at others comments I was thinking 8.0 Funnybooks, Point Five and grendelbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I agree with 7.5, possible 8.0. The crease in such a prominent place with bits of color broken; scuff LLC and light corner/edge wear. None of it helpful to break VF, IMO. grendelbo, Funnybooks and frozentundraguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Funnybooks, Point Five and frozentundraguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I feel like 7.5 is a little too harsh for how nice looking this book is. Still, that crease, coupled with the other issues probably takes it out of the NM range. I'll go 8.0 and on a good day 8.5 Point Five, Funnybooks, grendelbo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Teacher Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 8.5 grendelbo, Point Five and Funnybooks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 8.0 tops. Even the lax grading at CGC these days can’t ignore how much that crease stands out, unfortunately. grendelbo and Funnybooks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
