Robot Man Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Glad to see they didn’t do any cover cleaning to up the grade. waaaghboss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 4:05 PM, Robot Man said: I would think he got paid for MPFW. Marvel #1 was basically a reprint wasn’t it? Maybe a reprint rate. Did they do that back then? where had the non-subby stuff been printed before? i should know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Straw-Man Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 the hammer-price on the book may lead me to send off BOTH these to auction; i can't take them with me... Larryw7, Pantodude, Randall Dowling and 20 others 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 2:07 PM, Straw-Man said: where had the non-subby stuff been printed before? i should know that. Here's the MCS description, which only indicates the Subby stuff was reprinted: "Origin Sub-Mariner (by Bill Everett; 1st 8 pages were produced for Motion Picture Funnies Weekly # 1). Intro Human Torch (by Carl Burgos), Kazar the Great (1st Tarzan clone), the Angel (by Paul Gustavson), the Masked Ranger and his horse Lightning, and Jungle Terror (only appearance). 2-page text story, "Burning Rubber" (by Raymond Gill)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Timely Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) On 2/21/2022 at 4:05 PM, Straw-Man said: i would. It’s basically a qualified grade by mentioning all the writing on the label and calling it a Pay Copy, why? Because if you or I took another 9.2 copy and scribbled all the same stuff on it, it would NEVER EVER be given a 9.2 grade. All the writing is basically being ignored by cgc as a historic piece of comic lore. It’s a killer book, historically significant but as far as grading goes, inaccurately graded unless treated as a qualified, moderately written on Pay Copy. Trace the Pay Copy writing that’s on the cover to a Spawn #1 and see what grade it gets from cgc! Edited February 21, 2022 by Timely rob_react, VeryMetal!🤘, Larryw7 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 3:16 PM, Straw-Man said: the hammer-price on the book may lead me to send off BOTH these to auction; i can't take them with me... Beautiful copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 3:07 PM, Robot Man said: Glad to see they didn’t do any cover cleaning to up the grade. If the person that resubmitted it told me it was a straight resub, I would not be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 12:03 PM, Timely said: Borock was given a lot of grief over the years giving it a 9.0, nice to see that wasn't warranted after all! Would you buy it as a 9.2 Tom? I would not. CBCS would be jumping out of their own arseholes to get a chance to grade this book...and would probably grade it a 9.2 as well. buttock, Dave2739 and musicmeta 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 4:34 PM, Timely said: It’s basically a qualified grade by mentioning all the writing on the label and calling it a Pay Copy, why? Because if you or I took another 9.2 copy and scribbled all the same stuff on it, it would NEVER EVER be given a 9.2 grade. All the writing is basically being ignored by cgc as a historic piece of comic lore. It’s a killer book, historically significant but as far as grading goes, inaccurately graded unless treated as a qualified, moderately written on Pay Copy. Trace the Pay Copy writing that’s on the cover to a Spawn #1 and see what grade it gets from cgc! You didn't grade it qualified when you worked for CGC. buttock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pemart1966 Posted February 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) On 2/21/2022 at 2:39 PM, batman_fan said: I think it looks spectacular in a 9.2 holder. Amazing book. Indeed it is. The only thing that would be better was if it had an October date. Honestly, I'd take this copy over any existing copy and not because it's now a 9.2. It's probably the most significant historical find from the Golden Age. Edited February 22, 2022 by pemart1966 batman_fan, jimjum12, KCOComics and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 5:48 PM, MrBedrock said: You didn't grade it qualified when you worked for CGC. I wasn’t at cgc when it was graded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 5:45 PM, MrBedrock said: CBCS would be jumping out of their own arseholes to get a chance to grade this book...and would probably grade it a 9.2 as well. Borock said it is not a 9.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 6:58 PM, Timely said: Borock said it is not a 9.2 Borock can't grade. Larryw7, MAR1979, Timely and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 6:45 PM, MrBedrock said: CBCS would be jumping out of their own arseholes to get a chance to grade this book...and would probably grade it a 9.2 as well. Pffft! It’s not even an October copy. Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 6:58 PM, Timely said: Borock said it is not a 9.2 he also said it isn't qualified. MrBedrock and VeryMetal!🤘 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 6:56 PM, Timely said: I wasn’t at cgc when it was graded. then he was correct: you didn't grade it qualified when you were at cgc! MrBedrock, szav and buttock 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 4:21 PM, MattTheDuck said: Here's the MCS description, which only indicates the Subby stuff was reprinted: "Origin Sub-Mariner (by Bill Everett; 1st 8 pages were produced for Motion Picture Funnies Weekly # 1). Intro Human Torch (by Carl Burgos), Kazar the Great (1st Tarzan clone), the Angel (by Paul Gustavson), the Masked Ranger and his horse Lightning, and Jungle Terror (only appearance). 2-page text story, "Burning Rubber" (by Raymond Gill)." i knew--my sarcastic objection to it being called a "reprint" book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 5:22 PM, Straw-Man said: i knew--my sarcastic objection to it being called a "reprint" book. Whew! You had me worried there for a second. I thought I was in an alternate universe. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerkomics Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 In regards of historical finds/books in the Golden Age, what other books would rank up there with this book. The only one that comes to mind, but there are others, is the Action Comics #1 Court Copy. Look forward to hear what else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 10:03 AM, Timely said: Borock was given a lot of grief over the years giving it a 9.0, nice to see that wasn't warranted after all! Would you buy it as a 9.2 Tom? I would not. If you are buying it, you're buying the Pay Copy, and the history it represents, the grade given is of relatively minor importance. Primetime, Robot Man, jimjum12 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
